Printer-friendly copy Email this topic to a friend
Lobby The Lesson topic #2873784

Subject: "" Previous topic | Next topic
howardlloyd
Member since Jan 18th 2007
2729 posts
Wed Mar-05-14 04:42 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
""
Wed Mar-05-14 04:43 PM by howardlloyd

  

          

stopped getting signed

i'm biased growing up in LI and all but…

biz
PE
rakim
brand nubian
wu tang
epmd
de la soul
pete rock and cl
later-DOOM

(not an exhaustive list by any means…but they the most important IMO)

were to me…many of the people who kept pushing shit forward

who's the last NY suburban artist to go big??

i'd even say RUN-DMC is from a suburban ass part of queens lol

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top


Topic Outline
Subject Author Message Date ID
Wu-Tang?
Mar 05th 2014
1
This sounds extremely backwards but I'm all ears.
Mar 05th 2014
2
backwards??
Mar 05th 2014
4
      LOL your last line said it. And it's actually the same for L.A. and
Mar 07th 2014
20
where did you grow up on long island?
Mar 05th 2014
3
north babylon
Mar 05th 2014
5
Stated Island is NYC, Wu shouldnt be on this list
Mar 06th 2014
6
i always like how the westchester cats repped hard for their towns
Mar 06th 2014
7
Mar 06th 2014
8
ha, that can be blamed on westchester too.. PUFFY, LOX DMX...
Mar 06th 2014
10
being from Westchester (Port Chester) i always felt some kind of pride.....
Mar 06th 2014
9
If you lump together artists from Mt Vernon and towns
Mar 06th 2014
11
      ....yeah, if you say, "tri state" its obviously game over
Mar 06th 2014
12
      RE: If you lump together artists from Mt Vernon and towns
Mar 06th 2014
15
      my bad
Mar 06th 2014
17
Roc Marciano from LI
Mar 06th 2014
13
New York fell off bc New York fell the fuck off, period
Mar 06th 2014
14
lol ny failed the culture lol
Mar 06th 2014
18
      technically "new yorkERS"
Mar 06th 2014
19
           I know countless underground artists that have been doing their
Mar 07th 2014
21
Roc Marciano is from Hempstead
Mar 06th 2014
16

Chanson
Member since Nov 09th 2004
15000 posts
Wed Mar-05-14 05:32 PM

Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
1. "Wu-Tang?"
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

mind
--------
matter

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

-DJ R-Tistic-
Member since Nov 06th 2008
51986 posts
Wed Mar-05-14 05:34 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy listClick to send message via AOL IM
2. "This sounds extremely backwards but I'm all ears. "
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

------------------------------

50+ FREE Mixes on www.DJR-Tistic.com!

Twitter and Instagram - @DJ_RTistic

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
howardlloyd
Member since Jan 18th 2007
2729 posts
Wed Mar-05-14 06:27 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
4. "backwards??"
In response to Reply # 2
Wed Mar-05-14 06:30 PM by howardlloyd

  

          

ra
epmd
pe

if you call ra the greatest lyricist of all time…you probably in agreement with the majority. he revolutionized MCing. he's from wyandanch. right down straight path from where i grew up in north babylon…where LL and Freddie Foxx were from.

i'd see De La in PJs barbershop (PJ the barber was a pimp…drove an excalibur lol)

If you called them, epmd, or de la greatest group of all time. no one would give you the side eye

if you said de la is the ultimate trendsetter in hip hop you'd have alotta ammo in your bag

if you said erick sermon brought the funk in hip hop… you'd be RIGHT! lol

if you said it takes a nations of millions was GOAT album…people who knew wouldn't bat an eye. if you said bomb squad was most creative ever hip hop production… you get the point

thats just long island

mount vernon…new rochelle also had major talent.

if you said pete rock….

yeah…i'm saying

the greatest hip hop groups actually came from NYC suburbs

**as far as the wu… yeah staten island is a borough…but its different. and meth was from hempstead

so my point is… the bronx is hip hops heart. but the suburbs and LI in particular is the soul. or maybe thats backwards lol

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
-DJ R-Tistic-
Member since Nov 06th 2008
51986 posts
Fri Mar-07-14 07:40 AM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy listClick to send message via AOL IM
20. "LOL your last line said it. And it's actually the same for L.A. and"
In response to Reply # 4


  

          

ATL....the majority of the legends and even one hit wonders rarely come from THE city itself....but NYC always felt different to me, since the city of NY is extremely huge compared to ATL, or compared to L.A. only being 10-12% Black within the city.

But at the same time, I guess for L.A. and ATL, it's not the "suburbs" to us, when we speak of Compton and Inglewood, or Decatur, College Park, etc. even if they technically are suburbs of the main city.

So...how did NYC end up preventing rappers from LI and other burbs from making it?

>ra
>epmd
>pe
>
>if you call ra the greatest lyricist of all time…you probably
>in agreement with the majority. he revolutionized MCing.
>he's from wyandanch. right down straight path from where i
>grew up in north babylon…where LL and Freddie Foxx were from.
>
>i'd see De La in PJs barbershop (PJ the barber was a
>pimp…drove an excalibur lol)
>
>If you called them, epmd, or de la greatest group of all time.
> no one would give you the side eye
>
>if you said de la is the ultimate trendsetter in hip hop you'd
>have alotta ammo in your bag
>
>if you said erick sermon brought the funk in hip hop… you'd be
>RIGHT! lol
>
>if you said it takes a nations of millions was GOAT
>album…people who knew wouldn't bat an eye. if you said bomb
>squad was most creative ever hip hop production… you get the
>point
>
>thats just long island
>
>mount vernon…new rochelle also had major talent.
>
>if you said pete rock….
>
>yeah…i'm saying
>
>the greatest hip hop groups actually came from NYC suburbs
>
>**as far as the wu… yeah staten island is a borough…but its
>different. and meth was from hempstead
>
>so my point is… the bronx is hip hops heart. but the suburbs
>and LI in particular is the soul. or maybe thats backwards
>lol

------------------------------

50+ FREE Mixes on www.DJR-Tistic.com!

Twitter and Instagram - @DJ_RTistic

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

rhymesandammo
Member since Dec 07th 2004
6366 posts
Wed Mar-05-14 05:43 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy listClick to send message via AOL IM
3. "where did you grow up on long island?"
In response to Reply # 0
Wed Mar-05-14 05:46 PM by rhymesandammo

  

          

i was born in manhattan, but spent most of my formative years (5-19) on long island in east williston and roslyn. moved from queens to hicksville about a year and a half ago and have been recording music with one of the cats i grew up with: http://blahzemisfits.bandcamp.com

long island has a rich hip hop history that basically gets brushed over for w/e reason. roc marciano always shouts out pimpstead (hempstead) but that's really it. he's the last person from here that got some exposure and he's been around for a minute.

asap rocky lives in the suburbs of new jersey right now but he reps harlem and didnt make that move until around the time he got signed. i don't think it's en vogue to say you're from the suburbs in rap, even though some of the biggest rap artists right now (drake, macklemore) grew up in the burbs.

isn't busta from long island? i know he spent most of his teen years in brooklyn but im pretty sure he was born on the island.

okay now i'm rambling. out.

Esteemed author of the celebrated, double-platinum post: "Drake - Wu-Tang Forever".

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
howardlloyd
Member since Jan 18th 2007
2729 posts
Wed Mar-05-14 06:32 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
5. "north babylon"
In response to Reply # 3
Wed Mar-05-14 06:34 PM by howardlloyd

  

          

why would they name a town babylon… oh thats another post but

yup…its funny that roc marc came back and kinda flipped the game again…

another dart

and yup Busta too

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

stattic
Charter member
29791 posts
Thu Mar-06-14 11:12 AM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
6. "Stated Island is NYC, Wu shouldnt be on this list"
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

mikediggz
Member since Dec 02nd 2003
10145 posts
Thu Mar-06-14 12:00 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
7. "i always like how the westchester cats repped hard for their towns"
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

pete and cl, heavy d, brand nu, lox and dmx

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Anonymous
Charter member
23226 posts
Thu Mar-06-14 12:14 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
8. ""
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

A) being "jiggy"

and then fell harder when they started

B) copying the South

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
My_SP1200_Broken_Again
Charter member
57004 posts
Thu Mar-06-14 12:30 PM

Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy listClick to send message via AOL IM
10. "ha, that can be blamed on westchester too.. PUFFY, LOX DMX..."
In response to Reply # 8
Thu Mar-06-14 12:30 PM by My_SP1200_Broken_Aga

  

          

..they ushered in a really shitty sound in ny hip hop in the late 90s

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

My_SP1200_Broken_Again
Charter member
57004 posts
Thu Mar-06-14 12:27 PM

Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy listClick to send message via AOL IM
9. "being from Westchester (Port Chester) i always felt some kind of pride....."
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

....about Heavy D, Pete Rock & CL, Puba and Brand Nubian being just a few towns over ...People always think of NY hip hop as being very Bronx or Queens heavy, but LI and Westchester are probably greater than any other areas in the world when it comes to hip hop

GOAT MC = RAKIM
GOAT Producer = PETE ROCK
GOAT Group = DE LA

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
stattic
Charter member
29791 posts
Thu Mar-06-14 12:41 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
11. "If you lump together artists from Mt Vernon and towns"
In response to Reply # 9


  

          


30+ miles outside the city in LI, then you'd have to include the NJ artists across the river like Naughty, Redman, Fugees, Queen Latifah

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
My_SP1200_Broken_Again
Charter member
57004 posts
Thu Mar-06-14 12:48 PM

Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy listClick to send message via AOL IM
12. "....yeah, if you say, "tri state" its obviously game over "
In response to Reply # 11


  

          

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
howardlloyd
Member since Jan 18th 2007
2729 posts
Thu Mar-06-14 01:49 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
15. "RE: If you lump together artists from Mt Vernon and towns"
In response to Reply # 11


  

          

Long Island is not 30 miles from the city homey...

brooklyn and queens are geographically on Long Island

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
howardlloyd
Member since Jan 18th 2007
2729 posts
Thu Mar-06-14 03:22 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
17. "my bad"
In response to Reply # 11


  

          

you right…

reading too fast

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

T Reynolds
Member since Apr 16th 2007
42760 posts
Thu Mar-06-14 01:18 PM

Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
13. "Roc Marciano from LI"
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

I kinda feel you though

Suburb kids had more resources, time, to make the dream or rapping really happen

Best Dj's were from the suburbs too

Don't know how many of the Supermen and the X-Men were from the suburbs vs. the boroughs, but I would assume a lot of well known NYC DJ's were from the suburbs too

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

philpot
Member since Apr 01st 2007
21673 posts
Thu Mar-06-14 01:29 PM

Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
14. "New York fell off bc New York fell the fuck off, period"
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

and all these years later New Yorkers still makin excuses & can't admit they failed the art/culture at one of its most crucial junctures

when leaders become followers in a culture its probably dead

________________________________________________________________
whenever you did these things to the least of my brothers you did them to me

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
T Reynolds
Member since Apr 16th 2007
42760 posts
Thu Mar-06-14 04:18 PM

Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
18. "lol ny failed the culture lol"
In response to Reply # 14


  

          

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
philpot
Member since Apr 01st 2007
21673 posts
Thu Mar-06-14 05:07 PM

Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
19. "technically "new yorkERS""
In response to Reply # 18


  

          

but yeah, i dont expect a single new yorker to ever admit their shit actually stinks

________________________________________________________________
whenever you did these things to the least of my brothers you did them to me

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
T Reynolds
Member since Apr 16th 2007
42760 posts
Fri Mar-07-14 09:17 AM

Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
21. "I know countless underground artists that have been doing their"
In response to Reply # 19


  

          

thing since appearing in Unsigned Hype and still performing, making records

But since the blogs and industry types decided ny hip hop was played out and the south was the new gold mine, none of these cats getting signed

But keep whining about NY and not about whatever city you fuckin live in

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Original Juice
Member since Oct 03rd 2007
2578 posts
Thu Mar-06-14 02:08 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
16. "Roc Marciano is from Hempstead"
In response to Reply # 0


          

nm

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Lobby The Lesson topic #2873784 Previous topic | Next topic
Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.25
Copyright © DCScripts.com