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las raises
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"Dilla Donuts book (link)"


  

          

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www.stonesthrow.com/news/2014/02/j-dilla-donuts-333-book

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i'm hoping this one is good
Feb 25th 2014
1
Which one was good?
Feb 25th 2014
2
      the paul's boutique one was really good
Feb 25th 2014
3
           At least the Illmatic one was good?
Feb 25th 2014
4
           didn't get a chance to read the illmatic one
Feb 26th 2014
8
           Cool, I'll check that one out
Feb 25th 2014
5
ye thats cool. will need a copy
Feb 26th 2014
6
If they make one for D'angelo's new album it would be thick.
Feb 26th 2014
7
Just received the book today
Apr 18th 2014
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Started crying reading the excerpt
Apr 19th 2014
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It was a tough read
Apr 19th 2014
11
RE: Started crying reading the excerpt
Apr 22nd 2014
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just finished it; really enjoyed it
Apr 22nd 2014
12
Amazon has a nice preview if you need to see more.
Apr 22nd 2014
13
Good read, could've used a few more chapters
Apr 29th 2014
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cbk
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Tue Feb-25-14 05:58 PM

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1. "i'm hoping this one is good"
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donuts is definitely an album that deserves a worthy 33 1/3 book.

all but one of the 33 1/3 books i've read sucked. HARD.


Happy 50th D’Angelo: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/track/d-50

  

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sectachrome86
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Tue Feb-25-14 06:02 PM

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2. "Which one was good?"
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I've looked at a couple of these before, but have never pulled the trigger.

  

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cbk
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3. "the paul's boutique one was really good"
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i'm always looking for behind the scenes and research-y stuff. like what was going on in the artists' lives, what they intended to create, who were their influences, what they were consuming at the time (drugs, art, etc), the critical and audience response upon release, etc.

and more techy things like who were in the sessions, what gear was used, who played what, etc.

a lot of the 33 1/3 books are about the author's personal relationship to the album. i can take some of that, if it's placed in the context of initial audience/critical response. but some of the books spend waaay too long on that. e.g. the sign o the times one talked about the author's personal childhood journey to target where he begged his single mom to buy him the cassette, and the struggles of being a biracial child from a impoverished one-parent household. that's really compelling stuff, no doubt. but no one wants to read about that shit in a book dedicated to sign o the times, b.

off the top, endtroducing was basically an un-edited magazine interview of dj shadow that didn't talk about gear. YAAAWN.

grace was just plain lame. the dream brother book was far superior.

the middle 20 pages of the the there's a riot goin on book was good. the rest...blah.

and i didn't even finish the others.


Happy 50th D’Angelo: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/track/d-50

  

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breastmilk05
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Tue Feb-25-14 07:02 PM

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4. "At least the Illmatic one was good?"
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Worth a purchase,no?

  

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cbk
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8. "didn't get a chance to read the illmatic one"
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nor the ITANOMTHUB one.

after going 1 for like 5 i just gave up on them.

but i'm a sucker and i'll probably get the donuts one!


Happy 50th D’Angelo: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/track/d-50

  

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sectachrome86
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Tue Feb-25-14 07:05 PM

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5. "Cool, I'll check that one out"
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Anyone read the Illmatic or It Takes a Nation of Millions books?

Anyway, yeah, hoping the Donuts one is good. I'm a Dilla fan (who isnt), but I don't know that much about him or Donuts than just the surface level.

  

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araQual
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Wed Feb-26-14 12:19 AM

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6. "ye thats cool. will need a copy"
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SpaceBullets
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Wed Feb-26-14 11:01 AM

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7. "If they make one for D'angelo's new album it would be thick."
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cbk
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9. "Just received the book today"
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Cracked open the first chapter...so far not bad.

Happy 50th D’Angelo: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/track/d-50

  

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PhilWithers
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10. "Started crying reading the excerpt "
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Dag it sounds like dilla suffered a lot.

Amazing to see his character in spittin at each and every show in Europe.

Funny

I was listening to his five beat tapes from 2002 all night tonight.

Rest in peace to the best to EVER do it

  

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PCProductions
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11. "It was a tough read"
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I wouldn't wish that shit on my worst enemy. Couldn't have happened to a less deserving dude. A true warrior and artistic master. I'm really looking forward to this read.

  

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rileykillis
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Tue Apr-22-14 12:39 PM

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14. "RE: Started crying reading the excerpt "
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I had an uncle die of TTP two years ago. It's pretty much exactly as described in the various interviews w Dilla's family. He couldn't eat without throwing up, lost half his body weight. Fam says at some points he was begging for it to just be fucking over. Terrible and heartbreaking. He lasted six months.

There are actually treatments now (developed since Dilla's death) but he (my uncle David) was too far gone before he was diagnosed.

  

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cbk
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12. "just finished it; really enjoyed it"
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i definitely went into this book very cautiously (read above).

ferguson covered all this shit i thought he should. he referenced all the stuff i've read and vids i've seen on the web since 06, shit even the ?uest posts i cut and pasted! and i didn't see him miss any death/dying references in either the titles or the samples dilla pulled. pretty much nothing went by him. kudos, he pulled everything together nicely.

i also thought he handled all the delicate, emotional content appropriately. all the poignant, heavy stuff was presented well.

and thank goodness he didn't make it about his own experiences with the album or his personal discovery of the artist (see the "sign o the times" and "endtroducing" 33 1/3s).

i REALLY liked the elisabeth kubler-ross analysis. i'm gonna read that chapter again.

WHEW!


Happy 50th D’Angelo: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/track/d-50

  

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phemom
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Tue Apr-22-14 12:32 AM

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13. "Amazon has a nice preview if you need to see more."
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http://www.amazon.com/Dillas-Donuts-33-Jordan-Ferguson/dp/1623561833

I got to buy this.

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topaz
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Tue Apr-29-14 06:59 AM

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15. "Good read, could've used a few more chapters"
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But then again I can't think of anything else the author should've written about. Good call by Jeff Jank for asking for the original version of Stop with the short silence to put on the album.

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