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melmag
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"Poll question: Illadelph Half-life vs Stakes is High"


  

          

In light of Hitoriki's "Revisits" & De La's recent free album downloads, I got to experience these gems all over again..

*both dropped in 96 amidst turning point of the golden era to the jiggy/flossy era

*arguably the best emceeing career performance by both leads (BT & Pos)

*both unusually "dark" (but delightful) albums that deviated from the groups' other works

*both contained strong, anti-mainstream sentiments(What they Do, Stakes is high, etc)


So which is the better album?

Poll result (26 votes)
IHL (10 votes)Vote
SIH (16 votes)Vote

  

  

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Love both but SIH wins for me.
Feb 21st 2014
1
Illadelph for me. Stakes is High wasn't in my top 5 of 96
Feb 21st 2014
2
Stakes is High
Feb 21st 2014
3
Yeah, I don't find it dark at all
Feb 21st 2014
4
      ^ I agree with this. But, not to speak...
Feb 21st 2014
5
           word
Feb 21st 2014
7
           Fo sho and I agree 100%.
Feb 21st 2014
9
           RE: Was he wrong though?
Feb 21st 2014
12
                Nope! Did I imply he was?
Feb 21st 2014
13
Stakes for me
Feb 21st 2014
6
Illadelph Half-life
Feb 21st 2014
8
Illadelph wins as an album but Dinninit is the best song of both
Feb 21st 2014
10
I agree 100%
Feb 21st 2014
11
*record scratch* Pos is the MC lead of De La?
Feb 21st 2014
14
Dave bodied that shit in a major way
Feb 21st 2014
15
I can understand calling BT lead of The Roots even if
Feb 21st 2014
16
      Explain yourself
Feb 21st 2014
17
he's always been the de facto leader of De La
Feb 22nd 2014
24
Stakes Is High is the better album but
Feb 21st 2014
18
What?? I feel like these results would've been flipped 10 years ago
Feb 22nd 2014
19
"Illadelph Half-Life" Gets My Vote
Feb 22nd 2014
20
both are classic imo but illadeplh is slighlty better
Feb 22nd 2014
21
Illadelph .. Only because it didn't have any outright wack songs
Feb 22nd 2014
22
I like them equally but for different reasons
Feb 22nd 2014
23

Brew
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1. "Love both but SIH wins for me."
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I enjoy the sonic landscape more, is really what it is.

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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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2. "Illadelph for me. Stakes is High wasn't in my top 5 of 96"
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pretty easy choice for me.

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ChiefRocka
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3. "Stakes is High"
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I wouldn't necessarily call it "dark," sonically though. Especially not when it's compared to Illadelph

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Eric B Is Prez
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4. "Yeah, I don't find it dark at all"
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I actually think of it as a summer album

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Brew
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5. "^ I agree with this. But, not to speak..."
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Fri Feb-21-14 04:00 PM by Brew

          

for the OP but I think he was referring more to the lyrical content than the sonic landscape, at least with regard to SHI...which he's right about. Pos rapped like someone stole his lunch.

Ex.:
"Cause the gun made a man outta PUSSIES from around my way
who usually wouldn't have a FUCKIN thing to say"

among others..

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Eric B Is Prez
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7. "word"
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I was talking sonically. Stakes is a sunny day album in that sense

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9. "Fo sho and I agree 100%."
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12. "RE: Was he wrong though?"
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>Pos rapped like someone stole
>his lunch.
>
>Ex.:
>"Cause the gun made a man outta PUSSIES from around my way
>who usually wouldn't have a FUCKIN thing to say"
>



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13. "Nope! Did I imply he was?"
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Fri Feb-21-14 06:43 PM by Brew

          

If so, my bad.

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6. "Stakes for me"
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Illadelph is one of the best albums that I go back to the least. There's nothing wrong with it, but I feel like it's their most robotic work. ?uestlove made his drums sound like they were programmed, BT raps like a metronome, and the whole thing just lulls me to sleep. It's perfectly executed, which might have been the problem. I prefer the more spontaneous Roots...Phrenology even...where they actually sound like a band playing in a room.

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8. "Illadelph Half-life"
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Happy 50th D’Angelo: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/track/d-50

  

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10. "Illadelph wins as an album but Dinninit is the best song of both"
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love that song.

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11. "I agree 100%"
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14. "*record scratch* Pos is the MC lead of De La?"
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Not to mention how Trugoy bodies Stakes is High.

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15. "Dave bodied that shit in a major way "
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16. "I can understand calling BT lead of The Roots even if"
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I think Illadelph was Malik's album. But to dismiss Dave like that is just absurd to me.

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17. "Explain yourself"
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>I think Illadelph was Malik's album.

  

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24. "he's always been the de facto leader of De La"
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but Dave has been on a fucking tear since then, I love the way he raps
saw them last year at a local festival and the guy was rapping while eating a cookie and never paused or missed a word in between bites
that shit was wild as hell to see

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18. "Stakes Is High is the better album but"
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Thought's performance is better than De La.

  

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19. "What?? I feel like these results would've been flipped 10 years ago"
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Even 5 years ago.

I like Stakes. But better than Illadelph? Nah.

  

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20. ""Illadelph Half-Life" Gets My Vote"
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I was never a fan of "Stakes Is High", it's okay but got so many songs that feel skip-able, the album felt dated the day it came out to me; but "Illadelph Halflife" stayed on heavy rotation for three years for me until I just had to make myself pace the times I listen to it and I still listen to it at least once every couple of months from beginning to end.


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21. "both are classic imo but illadeplh is slighlty better"
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only because thought lost his mind on about 75% of that album

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22. "Illadelph .. Only because it didn't have any outright wack songs"
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but Stakes Is High definitely shines

  

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23. "I like them equally but for different reasons"
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Sat Feb-22-14 07:13 AM by Garhart Poppwell

  

          

both albums are lyrical clinics, I don't think there's a doubt about that, and you'd be hard pressed to find twenty-somethings today that could pull off what they did on both these albums
oh, and in case you guys didn't notice, "turning coins to get the upper cut like Sonny Liston/but eyes closed episodes bring you back to zeroes" is best line off both LPs

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