Over in that Grammy robberies post, HIGO got absolutely no love and this was a shock to me. I remember it being fairly well received around here when it dropped, but after all these board crashes, I couldn't find the original posts about it. I remember some criticism but an overall positive consensus on it. Am I wrong?
For those who don't like HIGO -- what didn't work for you?
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5. "cats must not like rhyming" In response to Reply # 4
i honestly think UNDUN is one of the best MC'd albums ever. hardly any throw away LINES(!)
i like the beats too …but understand why some my not dig it
but…that record could be acapella
"fuck getting fucked immaculate conception now whats beef aint even a question calico kisses cold blood and crime tape flirt with death every night is a blind date one night stand …pay backs a bitch shit'll have u skinny dippin in a pool of ya piss…"
8. "RE: cats must not like rhyming" In response to Reply # 5
>but…that record could be acapella I'm not trying to hear no acapella album. I have a hard enough time sitting through instrumental albums unless they're done right.
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I like the album. I praised it from day one. and I could be wrong but there was one person on here that was acting as if the writing on that album was the best of all-time and I just can't fathom someone being that crazy about it unless they were trying to jump on board with that story that came out about the process.
The writing is good to great but damn...ease up a little.
>For those who don't like HIGO -- what didn't work for you? > The intentionally pitchfork friendly vibe didn't work for me and less Black Thought is never a good thing IMO. I haven't dug an album by The Roots since Game Theory. Of course I'll still support the fam. They always have a few cuts I love on each album.
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6. "I thought it was dissapointingly beige and a little MOR-ish" In response to Reply # 0
Not terrible or anything, just safe and unmemorable, which is probably you don't see too many still raving over it. I think it was pretty well-received at the time though.
7. "it was very good but not exactly memorable." In response to Reply # 0
I think a lot of posters here put most of their stock into things they found memorable, or returned to for months and months.
I think it went really well with the John Legend album that year, too. HIGO was more reserved, Wake Up! more energetic.
But that opening five songs, and "The Day" / "Right On"? There's no way HIGO was a bad album.
It's a solid 5th in their discography for me, but at an 8.3/10 it's only 12 spots out of my Top 100 albums. Like I said, I wouldn't argue it had any super memorable moments individually, but I bet if I pressed play I'd immediately remember what I liked so much about the album as a whole.
39. "Yeah that song honestly made me not give the album a fair shot" In response to Reply # 9
At least not until way later. It's the only Roots album I didn't purchase. Maybe I copped it later on but I honestly don't even remember. Dear God 2.0 really bothered me.
Overall though it's not a bad album. Some good music on there.
44. "RE: I wish Right on had 3 thought verses or was a full posse cut" In response to Reply # 10
AMEN to that one ... That Slim kid was cool but that Thought verse on there was killer. Give me 2 more of that on that beat, PSHHHH. Mofucka would need a neckbrace!
11. "I thought it was a really good, solid album" In response to Reply # 0
obviously not The Roots best album, but another good addition to their great discography. I like every track on their except for "Hustle" really. I like Undun more though, but I LOVE undun.
17. "Every Geffen/MCA album was better than the Def Jam ones that followed " In response to Reply # 0
and How I Get Over might be the least appealing major-label studio effor of their career (not counting side-projects like the Booker T snoozer).
But it still had it's moments, 'Right On' was cool & there might be a couple others on it, I own it but don't really remember it well at this point which speaks to its sticking power with me.
21. "nah, bc GT was on Def Jam..." In response to Reply # 17
i dont see an argument for Phren or the Wack One being better at all
the first 3 (not Organix) can all be argued to be better tho i disagree myself except for DYWM, its hard for me to put GT over that even tho i casually consider GT my favorite Roots album
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25. "I prefer 'em *shrugs*. I think Game Theory is their most overrated album" In response to Reply # 21
I even like Rising Down's opening salvo from its intro/title-track/GetBusy/@15/75-Bars aural assault to the entirety of Game Theory.
But definitely all the pre-Def-Jam records, even the 'wack one' I know you're referring to which admittedly is cutting it close
Game Theory along with Stakes Is High and The Grind Date to me are the three most overpraised albums in the history of this forum even though I don't actually dislike any of those albums per se.
I just can't see any being considered being consider to be either group's best work or even close.
Each record feels fairly heavy-handed/joyless to me without really saying or doing much new, interesting and/or thought-provoking either.
No thanks, I'd rather listen to Mellow My Man over the pseudo-Pollywannacracka-man on False Media.
I recognize though that it seems to mostly be just me on that end, most here would vehemently disagree & it's already been hashed over ad naseum in this forum.
27. "it's the worst pre-Def Jam album, I wouldn't fight hard for it over what..." In response to Reply # 26
but I do probably prefer it by a hair.
Love Star/Pointro, love Thought over that synthy/jiggy Storch beat of Don't Say Nothin' even if I disagree with Iovine & think they need to actually finish putting some words on that hook ironic title be damned, Stay Cool is an all-time favorite, Web is beastly, Somebody Gotta Do It is the kind of hook Dice spent the next three albums failing to duplicate & that Melting Pot/InLoveWitThaMic/DunDaDa closer/hidden-track-jam is epic.
31. "I have a strong dislike for that album. " In response to Reply # 0
I hate higo so much I missed listening to their latest album Oh yeah they made that Elvis colab album too skipped that one too. All the other Roots albums are good to great tho.
32. "Web 20/20 gets my vote for worst Roots song ever" In response to Reply # 0 Tue Feb-04-14 02:43 AM by KennyFresh
definitely could've done without "Hustla" too, both John Legend tracks were just alright to me, and STS' verse almost ruined "Right On" - which is otherwise my favorite song on the album by far
so all of the album's worst moments all being back-to-back is really what killed it for me, the first 8 1/2 songs are my shit though - so its not an inconsistent LP as much as it's just top-heavy.
The title track should've been HUGE….in a perfect world. It's a fucking blues song essentially.
The first half of the album is pretty much flawless.
I also like Web 2.0, it's a posse cut, nothing strange there.
Seems like it's a more "normal" Roots album, but the songs are still there, Thought is on fire, what's the problem?
I also liked "Undun"….seemed a little more subdued and understated. The Roots do what they want, that's why I love them….and it almost always comes out dope.
38. "The Show- Rising Down" In response to Reply # 37
The few times I've seen someone mention this song they were unfavorable. I LOVE that shit to death. The drum pattern and then when Thought comes in, "Unh am I still the one..." - goosebumps man!
Just curious what those of you dislike about it. Common doesn't keep up with BT and I think dice raw's singing had something/everything to do with it.
46. "One of my favorite Roots albums" In response to Reply # 0
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