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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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"Franz Ferdinand vs Pharrell (link)"


  

          

Franz Ferdinand's Alex Kapranos Accuses Pharrell of Stealing "Take Me Out" Riff for Paloma Faith Song

By Carrie Battan on January 31, 2014 at 10:06 a.m.

Franz Ferdinand's Alex Kapranos has directed a tweet at Pharrell today implying that Paloma Faith's new single "Can't Rely on You" (written by, produced by, and featuring Pharrell) lifts a riff directly from Franz Ferdinand's "Take Me Out".

"Hey @Pharrell - I love your tunes," he writes. "If you want to borrow a riff, just ask..." In response to a fan who tweeted, "maybe you could buy him a new hat once he's paid up?," Kapranos tweeted, "Let's hope it's a hit, then. Again."

Pharrell hasn't responded. Representatives for Paloma Faith have not responded to a request for comment.

The song certainly doesn't sound dissimilar to "Take Me Out"...

Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ijk4j-r7qPA

Paloma Faith - Can't Rely on You http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=imi9Smkt_cI

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have they had any other hits beside Take me out?
Jan 31st 2014
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not that I can recall but I loved that first album
Jan 31st 2014
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I liked it too..Its sad to see them be so wrong right here
Jan 31st 2014
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"Do You Wanna"
Jan 31st 2014
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lol I had to look it up..but once I did I remembered instantly you right
Jan 31st 2014
13
they had a few from their first two albums.
Feb 01st 2014
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Blues & Pants - James Brown
Jan 31st 2014
2
RE: Blues & Pants - James Brown
Jan 31st 2014
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CLEARLY!
Jan 31st 2014
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RE: Blues & Pants - James Brown
Jan 31st 2014
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yea he def was going for that...I don't know what the fuck ole boy
Jan 31st 2014
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      this almost made me go into an I hate white people rant
Feb 01st 2014
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I can't hear what he could possibly be talking about
Jan 31st 2014
10
Dude is backing off now (link)
Jan 31st 2014
11
Somebody must have schooled him
Jan 31st 2014
12
the guitar melodies are similar
Jan 31st 2014
14
Seriously...
Jan 31st 2014
15
      i was gonna say.
Feb 01st 2014
19
man please
Jan 31st 2014
16
Thought this was a mashup :(
Feb 01st 2014
18
and just like that he apologizes (link)
Feb 03rd 2014
21

Menphyel7
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1. "have they had any other hits beside Take me out? "
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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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3. "not that I can recall but I loved that first album"
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8. "I liked it too..Its sad to see them be so wrong right here "
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9. ""Do You Wanna""
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Was a hit.

I'm not really hearing a similarity here tho

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13. "lol I had to look it up..but once I did I remembered instantly you right"
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20. "they had a few from their first two albums."
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nothing since.

  

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2. "Blues & Pants - James Brown"
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Sounds like Pharell was going more for this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lspxWdsu63A

especially considering the grunts and whatnot present during the opening bars of the Paloma song.

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4. "RE: Blues & Pants - James Brown"
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Clearly they've never listened to Hip Hop.. dummies.

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6. "CLEARLY!"
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>Clearly they've never listened to Hip Hop.. dummies.

yeah, i felt like that too ... the funniest thing i've noticed is the ignorant FF (a band i like btw) fans are trolling the video comments of the Paloma video already screaming rip-off ... no clue of the funk cloth that Pharrell's cut from ...

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5. "RE: Blues & Pants - James Brown"
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I'm wondering if Pharrell even knows Franz Ferdinand?

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7. "yea he def was going for that...I don't know what the fuck ole boy"
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is talking about

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17. "this almost made me go into an I hate white people rant"
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10. "I can't hear what he could possibly be talking about"
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I mean especially considering he decided to call Pharrell like that I would think it would be something that was a lot more blatant. I can't even hear much similarity between the FF song and the Pharrell produced track.

  

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11. "Dude is backing off now (link)"
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https://twitter.com/alkapranos/status/429324301590736897

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14. "the guitar melodies are similar "
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Pharrel's is muffled and buried in the mix.
The Franz one which kicks in for the chorus (1:03) is up mixed up front and center.

The similarities are very likely coincidental. I just wanted to point it out for those who were curious where the hell anybody would get the idea. The fact that the two songs are cut from completely different cloth (funk vs rock) is enough to distract most people from zooming in on the melody which is the point of contention. The grunts and drums are just window dressing in the context of the accusation. Remember Rod Stewart vs that bossa nova artist?

The funny thing is, if I cared enough, I could probably find another song with a similar guitar riff that predates the Franz Ferdinand. Very bold of him to be accusing somebody of biting an unremarkable doodling riff. This is not the riff for "Seven Nation Army" we're talking about here...lol

  

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15. "Seriously..."
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>The funny thing is, if I cared enough, I could probably find
>another song with a similar guitar riff that predates the
>Franz Ferdinand. Very bold of him to be accusing somebody of
>biting an unremarkable doodling riff. This is not the riff for
>"Seven Nation Army" we're talking about here...lol

I always thought that Franz Ferdinand-riff was a partial rip-off off Zeppelin's "Trampled underfoot". Not sure that is the riff people are refering to but if it's the main riff that kicks in after a while in the Franz Ferdinand-version, it's the same one I'm talking about... I haven't heard the Pharell-song yet though but either way, this sounds like bullshit so far...

EDIT:After listening, I agree with the James Brown-thing, the phrasing at the end of the riff is markedly different from the Franz Ferdinand song but strongly reminiscent-though not identical -of Brown... who of course was the inspiration for the Zeppelin-tune as well...

  

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dude has major cheek considering 'trampled under foot'.

  

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18. "Thought this was a mashup :("
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Was looking forward to hearing it lol

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21. "and just like that he apologizes (link)"
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https://twitter.com/alkapranos/status/430318666585219072

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