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otto_von_piffmarck
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"do you think kendrick lamar and j. cole still have 360 deals?"


  

          

considering they "sold" so many records and had so much "critical success"?

  

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A deal is a deal. Once you sign a contract it's hard to change
Jan 17th 2014
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RE: A deal is a deal. Once you sign a contract it's hard to change
Jan 17th 2014
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      RE: A deal is a deal. Once you sign a contract it's hard to change
Jan 17th 2014
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           click farms, phantom units, critic payola...
Jan 17th 2014
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           and these dudes don't?
Jan 17th 2014
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           i said "what if..." not "guess what?"
Jan 17th 2014
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           Yeah it doesn't work that way at all.
Jan 22nd 2014
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           LOL!
Jan 22nd 2014
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RE: do you think kendrick lamar and j. cole still have 360 deals?
Jan 17th 2014
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thanks for your time.
Jan 17th 2014
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      RE: thanks for your time.
Jan 17th 2014
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           i'm not flooding the forum.
Jan 17th 2014
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I don't know the specifics of Kendrick's deal...
Jan 17th 2014
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360 in "360 deal" denotes the number of days you're on tour every year.
Jan 17th 2014
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      No it doesn't. LOL.
Jan 22nd 2014
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HI Bammer. LOFL @ Kendrick being in a 360 deal
Jan 17th 2014
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If the owner of TDE is smart no
Jan 17th 2014
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Doubtful on Kendrick, absolutely on J. Cole
Jan 18th 2014
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thanks.
Jan 18th 2014
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o wow had no idea kendrick was on a 360 deal. what a L
Jan 18th 2014
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My man says 360 indicates how many days your on tour. LOL.
Jan 22nd 2014
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RE: My man says 360 indicates how many days your on tour. LOL.
Jan 22nd 2014
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RE: o wow had no idea kendrick was on a 360 deal. what a L
Jan 22nd 2014
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A 360 deal CAN be a good thing...
Jan 22nd 2014
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Kendrick says something about "no 360 deals"
Jan 22nd 2014
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According to Forbes, Kendrick made 9 mil last year
Jan 23rd 2014
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drake didn't have an album or tour money on that list
Jan 23rd 2014
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Buddy_Gilapagos
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1. "A deal is a deal. Once you sign a contract it's hard to change"
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those terms just because you are successful. It happens but not often.


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otto_von_piffmarck
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2. "RE: A deal is a deal. Once you sign a contract it's hard to change"
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Fri Jan-17-14 04:12 PM by otto_von_piffmarck

  

          

what if your commercial and critical "success" is a guaranteed term of the 360 contract the label provides to allow you to continue touring every night with that hefty fee taken from your earnings?

  

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3. "RE: A deal is a deal. Once you sign a contract it's hard to change"
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guaranteed success???

Where they do that at?

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otto_von_piffmarck
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4. "click farms, phantom units, critic payola..."
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Fri Jan-17-14 04:19 PM by otto_von_piffmarck

  

          

hard to be legitimately "successful" when you have no real "hits" (commercial singles or fanfare garnered) to really speak of.

  

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9. "and these dudes don't?"
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kendrick lamar has one song and two guest features on the GTA 5 soundtrack. Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe and the remix were big. J. Cole's "Power" was inescapable and that Missy song got more run than I ever expected. Both of 'em got real "hits" from what I remember during my time in cars with pop radio.


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14. "i said "what if..." not "guess what?""
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19. "Yeah it doesn't work that way at all. "
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21. "LOL!"
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>guaranteed success???
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>Where they do that at?

Wonderland.

Come to grips with the fact that most OKP's are of the Nut Hugger lineage, so, if you' re not part of the little cliques that exist 'round here, your posts will probably tank like Souljaboy's album sales.

  

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Fri Jan-17-14 04:27 PM

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5. "RE: do you think kendrick lamar and j. cole still have 360 deals?"
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Hmmmmm.....Yay for the alias!!!!!...

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otto_von_piffmarck
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6. "thanks for your time."
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7. "RE: thanks for your time."
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No prob. homie...Keep floodin' the boards....

SALUTE!

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otto_von_piffmarck
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8. "i'm not flooding the forum."
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just keeping this place alive for another week by injecting topics "relevant" to the contemporary rap scene.

  

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10. "I don't know the specifics of Kendrick's deal..."
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...but I know for a fact that J. Cole is still in a 360 deal and probably isn't grossing a ton of money when everything is said & done once you take into account how many days out of the year he's on the road.

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13. "360 in "360 deal" denotes the number of days you're on tour every year."
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18. "No it doesn't. LOL."
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11. "HI Bammer. LOFL @ Kendrick being in a 360 deal"
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LOL at you thinking "swimming pools", "poetic justice", and "bitch don't kill my vibe" didn't only get played on radio and 106&Park / MTV2 but on people's iPods and cars from oct. 2012 to, well, today.

ohh TDE is also a from the ground label that made a deal with interscope, not the other way around.

but Hi Bammer, keep it up buddy

  

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12. "If the owner of TDE is smart no"
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I doubt they have a 50-50 deal like Jigga man and Rocafella.

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15. "Doubtful on Kendrick, absolutely on J. Cole"
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16. "thanks."
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17. "o wow had no idea kendrick was on a 360 deal. what a L"
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Sat Jan-18-14 06:19 PM by southphillyman

  

          

360 deal thru TDE?
with all the comparisons to death row i wonder if he's getting jerked financially

edit: not finding any evidence that either dude is on a 360
at this point though how could you ever prove/disprove it? obviously the artist has an interest in keeping that information secret

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20. "My man says 360 indicates how many days your on tour. LOL."
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24. "RE: My man says 360 indicates how many days your on tour. LOL."
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i hope you realized that was facetious.

  

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23. "RE: o wow had no idea kendrick was on a 360 deal. what a L"
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>edit: not finding any evidence that either dude is on a 360

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs4Gp4hbQxM

kendrick too if i remember correctly, that was how he got on aftermath/interscope and actually got an album released.

  

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22. "A 360 deal CAN be a good thing..."
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If you're an established artist like Jay and are getting a WHOPPING amount of money up front and. because of your star status, won't have to grind like a slave to make it back.

But, for a new artist, I'm pretty sure the terms of the contract will be very "rapey", to say the least. I think that, once you make sure you still own your name and don't sign to some crazy extended period of time or release count (like LL back in the day with the 10 album contract), you'll be fine.

Something like a 3 album deal is sufferable and gives you the opportunity to renegotiate while still in your prime.

But, that's the sacrifice many make for stardom. Far as I've heard, Kanye had a pretty "rapey" contract back in the day where he was giving up damn near all his publishing. But, as the stories convey, he was willing to do ANYTHING to get on. I'm pretty sure he might be under a 10 album contract himself, probably because when Dame and 'nem signed him, they didn't really think he would have made it this far. Pretty sure it's not 360, though, so all this endorsement and product money he's making is ALL him.

Come to grips with the fact that most OKP's are of the Nut Hugger lineage, so, if you' re not part of the little cliques that exist 'round here, your posts will probably tank like Souljaboy's album sales.

  

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25. "Kendrick says something about "no 360 deals""
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on his Monster freestyle (its on youtube).. so theres that? who knows.

  

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26. "According to Forbes, Kendrick made 9 mil last year"
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regardless of the deal he got...he's good.

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/eeel45efgik/14-kendrick-lamar-9-million-tie/

Or 1.5 mil less than Drake so...

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27. "drake didn't have an album or tour money on that list"
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next list will have his new album money.

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