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DJR
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"Burn Hollywood Burn had the best lineup of rappers on it, of all time"


  

          

Think about it. Chuck D, Ice Cube, Big Daddy Kane. You could make an argument that that is 3 of the 10 best rappers ever. Hell, 3 of the top 5. There could be disagreements, but nobody could really tell you that you're wrong if you made that argument. And there's nobody else with a lower status or ability on the song. Just 3 of the absolute best at or close enough to their peaks, and that's it.

I can't think of another song with 3+ rappers on it, with a stronger lineup.

Any candidates out there? 3 or more legit hall of famers. No wack rappers(obviously). No mediocre rappers. No simply "good" rappers. 3 or more of the absolute elite rappers on it, and nobody else!!??

I'm not saying it's the GOAT song or anything, or even the greatest performances by all dope rappers on a song(IMO Cube's verse was just there, but with one great line). But Chuck/Kane/Cube. Back then. In their primes. Give me a better LINEUP. Is there one?

  

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I mean...
Jan 16th 2014
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3 or more legit hall of famers.
Jan 16th 2014
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Three or more? Well, there's "Self Destruction"
Jan 16th 2014
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^^^^came here to say this
Jan 17th 2014
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Also, the Symphony. Masta Ace, Craig, G Rap, and Kane
Jan 16th 2014
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Craig's not on that level
Jan 16th 2014
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Classic - RAKIM, NAS, KRS.. and Kanye.
Jan 16th 2014
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impressive lineup, but KRS and Rakim were well past their primes
Jan 16th 2014
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How ya want it we got it (Native Tongues remix)
Jan 16th 2014
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why not go with BUDDY?
Jan 17th 2014
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      Buddy is corny, ESP the version with "Heartbeat"
Jan 17th 2014
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      double post
Jan 17th 2014
32
"Rise & Shine" - Kool Moe Dee, KRS-1 & Chuck D.
Jan 16th 2014
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KRS was on one of the songs on the He Got Game album
Jan 16th 2014
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      unstoppable
Jan 17th 2014
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May not agree but I can co-sign a Burn Hollywood Burn appreciation post
Jan 16th 2014
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The best lineup of rappers on it, no doubt but
Jan 16th 2014
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John Blaze had Nas, Pun and Rae on it
Jan 16th 2014
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RE: John Blaze had Nas, Pun, Rae and Jadakiss on it
Jan 16th 2014
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^^^fixed it for me
Jan 16th 2014
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Jan 16th 2014
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yet Tres Leches w/Pun, Deck & P is still a better song w/better verses
Jan 16th 2014
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Not better than Nas verse
Jan 16th 2014
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I've seen Rae mentioned a lot in here
Jan 16th 2014
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      You really love Chuck huh?
Jan 17th 2014
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           Chuck got the greatest voice in hip hop
Jan 17th 2014
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Jay Z - Reservoir Dogs
Jan 17th 2014
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nah, all them cats aren't legendary
Jan 17th 2014
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DON'T CURSE - G RAP, KANE, QTIP, PUBA, CL, HEAVY D & PETE ROCK
Jan 17th 2014
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Pete Rock was pretty bad on that one though
Jan 17th 2014
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      he made the beat so he gets a pass...
Jan 17th 2014
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           ^^^^^
Jan 17th 2014
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Verbal Intercourse
Jan 17th 2014
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Kane, G Rap & KRS-Class Of 87
Jan 19th 2014
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1. "I mean..."
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just going down my first favorite 100 albums

every Wu-Tang cut.

Raekwon - Guillotine (Swordz) with Ghostface, Inspectah Deck and GZA
OutKast - Skew It on the Bar-B with Big Boi, Andre 3000 and Raekwon
OutKast - Git Up, Git Out with Cee-Lo, Andre 3000, Big Boi and Big Gipp
Mobb Deep - Eye for an Eye with Prodigy, Nas and Raekwon
Curren$y - The Day with Curren$y, Jay Electronica and Mos Def

Clipse - I'm Not You with Pusha T, Malice Jadakiss, Styles P and Roscoe P. Coldchain
hell, every We Got It for Cheap track
Eminem - Bitch Please II with Eminem, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg and Xzibit
Above the Law - The Last Song with KMG, Dr. Dre, Eazy E, MC Ren and Cold 187um


LOT of killer lineups out there. wasn't around for Kane's prime but Burn Hollywood Burn is in there and it's one of the few I gave a perfect 5 to so it's definitely hard to fuck with, but I'm not sure I could ever pick out the one lineup that got me more excited, on paper, than any other. AT THE TIME, probably that Clipse track.


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15. "3 or more legit hall of famers."
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>3 or more legit hall of famers. No wack rappers(obviously).
>No mediocre rappers. No simply "good" rappers. 3 or more of the
>absolute elite rappers on it, and nobody else!!??

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2. "Three or more? Well, there's "Self Destruction""
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A line-up of KRS, Kool Moe Dee, Stetsasonic, MC Lyte, D-Nice, Just Ice, Doug E. Fresh, Heavy D, and Chuck D, all in their prime, is pretty hard to fuck with. I guess Ms. Melodie would be the weak link, but her verse fine on it.

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21. "^^^^came here to say this"
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3. "Also, the Symphony. Masta Ace, Craig, G Rap, and Kane"
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Masta Ace and Craig were at the beginning of their careers at the time, but they turned out to be great MCs.

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17. "Craig's not on that level"
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Really, Ace isn't quite either even though he's a great rapper with a fantastic career.


  

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4. "Classic - RAKIM, NAS, KRS.. and Kanye."
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Sure 2/3 or 3/3 of the certifiable top 5/top 10 of all time guys on the track may have been past their career peaks, but they all came with it.. Over a good to great Primo beat.

Verbal Intercourse - NAS, Rae, Ghost all in their primes over a classic RZA beat produced at his creative peak. Most put NAS up there, many put Ghost, and Chef is on a few lists (hardcore Wu Stans). This is more of a classic song as opposed to a lineup of GOATS, but it's definitely debatable.

Got My Mind Made Up - PAC, Red, Meth, Kurupt.. and Daz.

The Anthem - The Wake Up Show f/KGR, Eminem, Monch, RZA.. and Chino, Jayo, and TechNyne.


All debatable when considering the OP's criteria; however mrhood's suggestions of Self Destruction is pretty undeniable. Not a trio of GOATS, a whole herd. The Symphony is a classic, and KGR and BDK are undisputedly great.. Ace is a fave, but..

  

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18. "impressive lineup, but KRS and Rakim were well past their primes"
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Kane, Chuck, and Cube were all in or very close to being in their primes.

If KRS, Rakim, and a young Nas had been on the same track in '92 or something, that's different.




>Verbal Intercourse - NAS, Rae, Ghost all in their primes over
>a classic RZA beat produced at his creative peak. Most put NAS
>up there, many put Ghost, and Chef is on a few lists (hardcore
>Wu Stans). This is more of a classic song as opposed to a
>lineup of GOATS, but it's definitely debatable.

Good one. Close. Rae is a hall of famer, but not quite to the level of Cube/Chuck/Kane, IMO.

>Got My Mind Made Up - PAC, Red, Meth, Kurupt.. and Daz.

See this was one of many tracks that came up when I was racking my brain for something on that level, before I made the post. Kurupt killed it and is/was a great rapper but not really a heavyweight on that level. And obviously Daz, dope producer and I like him well enough as a rapper, but he's not up there as an MC.

>The Anthem - The Wake Up Show f/KGR, Eminem, Monch, RZA.. and
>Chino, Jayo, and TechNyne.

I don't even like half of them, so I can't go for that.

  

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5. "How ya want it we got it (Native Tongues remix)"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7kK-J-CehA

De La Soul, Q-Tip, Jungle Brothers

  

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27. "why not go with BUDDY?"
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31. "Buddy is corny, ESP the version with "Heartbeat""
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"how ya want it we got it" is light-years better than buddy

No verse on "Buddy" rates anything

"How ya want it we got it" verses hit hard.

yes

  

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32. "double post"
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how ya want it we got it, oh yeah!!!!!!!!!!!

  

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6. ""Rise & Shine" - Kool Moe Dee, KRS-1 & Chuck D."
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Other than "Self-Destruction," was this the only time Chuck & KRS were on the same track?

  

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9. "KRS was on one of the songs on the He Got Game album"
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29. "unstoppable"
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These kids are raise on rap music
that's why they
autone it

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7. "May not agree but I can co-sign a Burn Hollywood Burn appreciation post"
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I remember my mind melting having dudes from 3 very different veins of hip-hop on the same track. That is what makes this track great to me.


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8. "The best lineup of rappers on it, no doubt but"
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The fact that Cube had that short ass verse still pisses me off when i listen to it.

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10. "John Blaze had Nas, Pun and Rae on it"
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11. "RE: John Blaze had Nas, Pun, Rae and Jadakiss on it"
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12. "^^^fixed it for me"
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14. ""
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13. "yet Tres Leches w/Pun, Deck & P is still a better song w/better verses"
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16. "Not better than Nas verse"
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Otherwise I'll give it the nod.

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19. "I've seen Rae mentioned a lot in here"
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I love Rae, and think he's a great rapper still.

But I never saw him as being on the level that Cube, Kane, and Chuck were in their primes. Even when Rae had the best album out with OB4CL, I still didn't quite see him on that level. He's an A- type, where Chuck, Kane, and Cube were A+'s.

  

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22. "You really love Chuck huh?"
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Not hating. It's all opinion and personal taste.

I just never personally had Chuck up there like that.

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24. "Chuck got the greatest voice in hip hop"
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20. "Jay Z - Reservoir Dogs"
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featuring The LOX, Beanie Sigel & Sauce Money. All in their prime at the time. Sermon gave them a banger to rhyme on.

Also, LL's 5,4,3,2,1 w/Red, Meth, DMX and Canibus

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23. "nah, all them cats aren't legendary"
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25. "DON'T CURSE - G RAP, KANE, QTIP, PUBA, CL, HEAVY D & PETE ROCK"
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26. "Pete Rock was pretty bad on that one though"
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"I-won't-curse-'cause-Heav-y-D_said... so." Pete's delivery was garbation back then.

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28. "he made the beat so he gets a pass..."
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30. "^^^^^"
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33. "Verbal Intercourse "
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but yeah, Burn Holywood Burn is fucking amazing, I agree with your post, even though I like Verbal Intercourse Better

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34. "Kane, G Rap & KRS-Class Of 87"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce9L2oSukWk

  

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