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okaystar
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Wed Jan-01-14 04:54 AM

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"Did L.L. Murder himself on his own shit?"


          

LL had a legendary run up until the release of 4,3,2.1. After this song, nothing.

L.L. Said he was the greatest of all time. At this point in time, no one was really arguing against this.

Is this the hip hop version of "jumping the shark"?








  

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RE: Did L.L. Murder himself on his own shit?
Jan 01st 2014
1
that song led to the 2nd round KO
Jan 01st 2014
2
Did Ill Bomb come out after 4,3,2,1?
Jan 01st 2014
3
Yes, so did 10 Million Stars
Jan 01st 2014
4
Wait What?
Jan 02nd 2014
5
I can in here to mention "Ill Bomb"
Jan 02nd 2014
6
      RE: I can in here to mention "Ill Bomb"
Jan 02nd 2014
11
           yes he was
Jan 05th 2014
13
nah time got him, just like it got every great 80's rapper
Jan 02nd 2014
7
Slick Rick had gems post 97 though
Jan 02nd 2014
8
      good point, you're right
Jan 02nd 2014
9
      scarface too
Jan 02nd 2014
10
Right premise...wrong song...he bodied himself on Accidental Racist
Jan 05th 2014
12
RE: Right premise...wrong song...he bodied himself on Accidental Racist
Jan 05th 2014
14

murph71
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1. "RE: Did L.L. Murder himself on his own shit?"
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FOH...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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howardlloyd
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Wed Jan-01-14 06:16 PM

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2. "that song led to the 2nd round KO"
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canibus

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

  

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Innocent Criminal
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3. "Did Ill Bomb come out after 4,3,2,1? "
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Wed Jan-01-14 10:17 PM by Innocent Criminal

  

          

I can't remember, but if it did, that is something good since 4321.

EDIT: He also had a good verse on that Strictly for my Jeeps remix. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6c__xiOJHM

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phemom
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Wed Jan-01-14 10:57 PM

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4. "Yes, so did 10 Million Stars"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKQEIq2JPRY

and New York Gangstas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IM_kdZtfA8

LL brings it when the beat right.

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RexLongfellow
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Thu Jan-02-14 01:03 AM

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5. "Wait What?"
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>L.L. Said he was the greatest of all time. At this point in
>time, no one was really arguing against this.
I remember A LOT of people arguing about this...LL wasn't top dog for anybody. It was always Rakim vs. Kane vs. KRS vs. Kool G

>Is this the hip hop version of "jumping the shark"?
Nah, he's had some bangers after that. Check out Ill Bomb on the Tunnel Tape (Funk Flex and Big Kap)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd4AgT2FWMA

  

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Birminghams Savage
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Thu Jan-02-14 10:12 AM

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6. "I can in here to mention "Ill Bomb""
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he had a few others after "4,3,2,1", as well. He had a joint on the Violator 2.0 album that was in the same vein as "Ill Bomb".


As far as the G.O.A.T. claims are concerned, it was a solid claim when the his G.O.A.T. album came out. Considering he was an 80's emcee who had stayed relevant, reinvented himself with the love songs in the 90's, was still making hit records......

add that to the fact that would still do a song with legitimate emcees from time to time? His claim to being the greatest wasn't ridiculous at all back then.



Did he murder himself, though? Nah. Time killed him....




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spidey
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11. "RE: I can in here to mention "Ill Bomb""
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...It was ridiculous...nowhere near that status then...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  

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justin_scott
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13. "yes he was"
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now, I didn't feel he was the greatest, but definitely arguable.

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DJR
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Thu Jan-02-14 10:58 AM

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7. "nah time got him, just like it got every great 80's rapper"
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KRS, Rakim, G Rap, Kane, Slick Rick, Chuck D, Ice Cube....all their best music came out pre-97 too. In some cases, much earlier than that even.

  

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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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Thu Jan-02-14 11:02 AM

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8. "Slick Rick had gems post 97 though "
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I'm talking top notch material

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DJR
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9. "good point, you're right"
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Though Rick also had a lack of material compared to the others. Maybe he had a lot of dope shit saved up for Da Art of Storytelling that he hadn't used yet, where the rest of them were pretty much tapped out by the late 90's.

But anyway LL's longevity was unmatched for a long time, since he came out before all of those listed, and fell off later than some of them too.



  

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makaveli
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10. "scarface too"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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subjctmattr
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12. "Right premise...wrong song...he bodied himself on Accidental Racist"
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murph71
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14. "RE: Right premise...wrong song...he bodied himself on Accidental Racist"
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