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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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"Is Operation: Doomsday and Supreme Clientele the last prominent NY rap L..."


  

          

Is Operation: Doomsday and Supreme Clientele the last prominent NY rap LP's? These are the last NY rap records that make me feel like I'm in NY when listening to them. From the production to the lyrics, those albums represent everything NY rap should be. That NY sound died after that. If not, what other NY rap records, that matter, have come out after those two?

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Not a Cold Vein fan? Or feel the production is too "spacey" too qualify?
Dec 26th 2013
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RE: Not a Cold Vein fan? Or feel the production is too "spacey" too qual...
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      Agreed
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      strange
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           RE: strange
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Cuban Linx 2...Marcberg...Grief Pedigree...Life Is Good...Reloaded
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RE: Cuban Linx 2...Marcberg...Grief Pedigree...Life Is Good...Reloaded
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It's actually an interesting conversation
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correct, and just about any Action Bronson record
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Diplomats stuff in the mid-90s definitely felt like Harlem
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I think you mean mid-00s
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Sponsored by gentrification
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RE: Is Operation: Doomsday and Supreme Clientele the last prominent NY r...
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self_ish
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1. "Not a Cold Vein fan? Or feel the production is too "spacey" too qualify?"
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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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2. "RE: Not a Cold Vein fan? Or feel the production is too "spacey" too qual..."
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A very big fan but for some reason El-P's production doesn't make me think NYC. He's one of my favorite producers though.

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3. "Agreed"
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Love the album tho

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6. "strange "
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EL-P quintessentially sounds like NY to me: the cold winters, the high-rises, the wealthy opulence, the derelict areas. El is some of the most NY sounding for me personally

  

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12. "RE: strange "
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Agreed…seems like people want to try to define the NYC sound as boom bap, when in fact there is crazy diversity…EL is representative of NY to the core….

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4. "Cuban Linx 2...Marcberg...Grief Pedigree...Life Is Good...Reloaded"
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Thu Dec-26-13 12:50 PM by Anonymous

  

          

There have been a lot of dope albums

But if you think that an NY album has to sound like something from the 90s then you'd be out of touch with NYC.

I remember someone making a post (maybe LES) talking about how they disliked Empire State of Mind because it represented the corporate side of NYC but that's also part of the city.

So I won't say that Blurprint sounded like an NYC album but I will use that song as an example of how NYC Hip-Hop doesn't all have to sound like one thing

What would you say if I said Soul Food is the last record that is everything southern hip-hop should be?

  

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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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8. "RE: Cuban Linx 2...Marcberg...Grief Pedigree...Life Is Good...Reloaded"
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>There have been a lot of dope albums
>
>But if you think that an NY album has to sound like something
>from the 90s then you'd be out of touch with NYC.
>
>I remember someone making a post (maybe LES) talking about how
>they disliked Empire State of Mind because it represented the
>corporate side of NYC but that's also part of the city.
>
>So I won't say that Blurprint sounded like an NYC album but I
>will use that song as an example of how NYC Hip-Hop doesn't
>all have to sound like one thing
>
>What would you say if I said Soul Food is the last record that
>is everything southern hip-hop should be?
>

You have the right to feel that way fam. Especially as an outsider.
Certain albums bring you into the world of that region so I'm not
mad at that comment at all.

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10. "It's actually an interesting conversation"
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>>There have been a lot of dope albums
>>
>>But if you think that an NY album has to sound like
>something
>>from the 90s then you'd be out of touch with NYC.
>>
>>I remember someone making a post (maybe LES) talking about
>how
>>they disliked Empire State of Mind because it represented
>the
>>corporate side of NYC but that's also part of the city.
>>
>>So I won't say that Blurprint sounded like an NYC album but
>I
>>will use that song as an example of how NYC Hip-Hop doesn't
>>all have to sound like one thing
>>
>>What would you say if I said Soul Food is the last record
>that
>>is everything southern hip-hop should be?
>>
>
>You have the right to feel that way fam. Especially as an
>outsider.
>Certain albums bring you into the world of that region so I'm
>not
>mad at that comment at alll.

But Marcberg definitely sounds like you're in an alley way ready to do some dirt lol

  

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11. "correct, and just about any Action Bronson record"
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>There have been a lot of dope albums
>
>But if you think that an NY album has to sound like something
>from the 90s then you'd be out of touch with NYC.
>
>I remember someone making a post (maybe LES) talking about how
>they disliked Empire State of Mind because it represented the
>corporate side of NYC but that's also part of the city.
>
>So I won't say that Blurprint sounded like an NYC album but I
>will use that song as an example of how NYC Hip-Hop doesn't
>all have to sound like one thing
>
>What would you say if I said Soul Food is the last record that
>is everything southern hip-hop should be?
>
>

  

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5. "Diplomats stuff in the mid-90s definitely felt like Harlem"
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7. "I think you mean mid-00s"
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9. "RE: Is Operation: Doomsday and Supreme Clientele the last prominent NY r..."
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>Is Operation: Doomsday and Supreme Clientele the last
>prominent NY rap LP's? These are the last NY rap records that
>make me feel like I'm in NY when listening to them. From the
>production to the lyrics, those albums represent everything NY
>rap should be. That NY sound died after that. If not, what
>other NY rap records, that matter, have come out after those
>two?




the 2 most important album to me from that dismal point in NYC rap. These albums saved me culturally when everything else was falling down around me and radio rap was trying to make me and like minded folks feel like we were the crazy ones.

  

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