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"Is Tyler the Creator one of the worst artists EVER?"
Sun Nov-24-13 06:22 PM by balloon

          

His personality is one of the worst rap music has ever seen.
His flow, voice and lyrics are very annoying. As for his production, it's already aging badly. I feel like his confidence is what helped him the most but that dosen't make his crap music better..
And he owes his success partly to that bug he ate..

  

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Nov 24th 2013
1
definitely not
Nov 24th 2013
2
Worst artist might be an exaggeration.. but nothing stands out about him...
Nov 24th 2013
3
      I disagree 100%
Nov 24th 2013
5
           RE: I disagree 100%
Nov 24th 2013
10
Wolf was one of the best albums of the year..GTFOH
Nov 24th 2013
4
did you start listening to rap music 3 years ago?
Nov 24th 2013
6
I wanted to make a post about how bad his music is and went the extreme
Nov 24th 2013
7
everything aint for everybody
Nov 25th 2013
18
unbearable i can understand
Nov 25th 2013
26
I think the hyperbole was clear. His point is the kid sucks. I agree.
Dec 01st 2013
36
He regressed pretty miserably...I'm still checking, though
Nov 24th 2013
8
Who is Earl going on tour with that he hates?
Nov 25th 2013
12
      Vince Staples. Tyler been openly talking bad about him for years.
Nov 25th 2013
15
           RE: Vince Staples. Tyler been openly talking bad about him for years.
Nov 25th 2013
28
                what's IDJ
Dec 01st 2013
37
                     I'm guessing Island/Def Jam.
Dec 01st 2013
38
                          ohh werd. that makes sense
Dec 02nd 2013
39
No
Nov 24th 2013
9
the great hip-hop swindle
Nov 24th 2013
11
naw, however nobody pays that turkey much mind either
Nov 25th 2013
13
People are still really mad about Tyler in 2013?
Nov 25th 2013
14
No nuance is why the Lesson is killing me nowadays
Nov 25th 2013
16
Weird argument
Nov 25th 2013
17
RE: Weird argument
Nov 25th 2013
19
You're in here talking about little Wayne and skateboards.
Nov 25th 2013
20
Did Tyler expose your Asian fetish or something?
Nov 25th 2013
23
      My rapper name is "Continent Asia"
Nov 25th 2013
24
           Way to fail at adding on to a joke!
Nov 25th 2013
25
                Nah, I'm actually serious. Check my sig for a mixtape link.
Nov 25th 2013
27
                     Me?
Nov 25th 2013
29
                          LOFL
Nov 30th 2013
31
I mean...
Dec 01st 2013
34
before I even read your reply I knew you would
Nov 30th 2013
32
RE: No nuance is why the Lesson is killing me nowadays
Dec 01st 2013
33
I have no hatred for him, but Wolf sounds like The Neptunes
Nov 25th 2013
21
His voice is dope.
Nov 25th 2013
22
nigga, please
Nov 30th 2013
30
If you do not like his music, then yes
Dec 01st 2013
35
he's aiight as a rapper..but that nigga is severely PAID
Dec 02nd 2013
40
and folks been biting you see Miley with that cat behind her
Dec 02nd 2013
41
nigga said they made $350,000 on just socks
Dec 02nd 2013
43
YUP
Dec 02nd 2013
42
Yup...like I said: he should do fashion or something
Dec 02nd 2013
44

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1. "No."
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2. "definitely not"
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3. "Worst artist might be an exaggeration.. but nothing stands out about him..."
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He is mediocre at best in everything he does .. His music is bad enough now can't imagine how bad it's going to sound 5 years from now.

  

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5. "I disagree 100%"
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Bastard was good
Goblin sucked ass

but since Goblin he has only been improving

Wolf was surprisingly great and it seems like he is getting more mature

He is a dope producer too IMO

you are really over-exaggerating shit....so many worse guys than tyler to call "the worst ever" or whatever and you pick him lmao

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10. "RE: I disagree 100%"
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wolf is wack as fuck. Goblin at least had a few cuts.

  

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4. "Wolf was one of the best albums of the year..GTFOH"
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he has gotten better so far acually and more mature..even his interviews he has stop the cussing and acting crazy and start giving smart thoughtful answers.

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6. "did you start listening to rap music 3 years ago?"
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even if you don't like him, and i'm not much of a fan, there is no way he's on any worst of all time list. he wouldn't even make a worst artists from Ladera Heights list.

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7. "I wanted to make a post about how bad his music is and went the extreme"
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Sun Nov-24-13 08:21 PM by balloon

          

way..
guess i learned my LESSON but i still find everything about him unbearable and I can't be the only one

  

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18. "everything aint for everybody"
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26. "unbearable i can understand"
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I really like earl, but Tyler just isn't for me either.

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36. "I think the hyperbole was clear. His point is the kid sucks. I agree."
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8. "He regressed pretty miserably...I'm still checking, though"
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He's now a niche artist for thrasher rich white kids

Nobody who listens to actual hip hop holds him in any
kind of esteem anymore

He just doesn't have it

And his "best friend" barely fucks with dude musically,
is going on tour with a nigga who Tyler openly hates

  

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12. "Who is Earl going on tour with that he hates?"
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>And his "best friend" barely fucks with dude musically,
>is going on tour with a nigga who Tyler openly hates

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15. "Vince Staples. Tyler been openly talking bad about him for years. "
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Now Earl and Vince are buddies, and they have chemistry
much, much, much, much better than Earl and Tyler

  

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28. "RE: Vince Staples. Tyler been openly talking bad about him for years. "
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Vince is on IDJ now...

He's the truth

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37. "what's IDJ"
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??

  

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38. "I'm guessing Island/Def Jam."
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39. "ohh werd. that makes sense"
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good fit for him

hope he get beats that match his rappin ability

  

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9. "No"
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11. "the great hip-hop swindle"
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13. "naw, however nobody pays that turkey much mind either"
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marginal corny turkey ain't no threat.

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14. "People are still really mad about Tyler in 2013?"
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16. "No nuance is why the Lesson is killing me nowadays"
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It's either a total GOAT gamechanger, or total shit.

While his output OVERALL has been spotty, out the gate he was pretty damn solid and his recent work has been great. He's not going to end up being Nas or Premier, but I like his energy, he helped introduce future POSSIBLE GOAT contenders Frank Ocean and Earl, and I love the fact that he's got (and is currently excelling at) the job that Lil Wayne currently wants. (Being king of the skate rappers).

He's also an interesting case of how much of an impact Neptunes made. While it's cool to make fun of em on the boards (there's already been a few neptune production is dated and sucks posts), the work they did on laying the groundwork for alt black kids in hip-hop was pretty essential. Id argue we would still be wearing baggy jeans if it wasn't for them.

  

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17. "Weird argument"
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He's
>not going to end up being Nas or Premier, but I like his
>energy, he helped introduce future POSSIBLE GOAT contenders
>Frank Ocean and Earl,

Good, so he should be a talent scout. Because neither guy
works with him musically anymore.

Its because Tyler's musical star has fallen. He's a personality
now, which is fine, but musically he puts out awful music.

and I love the fact that he's got (and
>is currently excelling at) the job that Lil Wayne currently
>wants. (Being king of the skate rappers).

Lol Wayne doesn't care about this "niche." And Tyler isn't
the king of it. Tyler is king of suburban white teenagers.


>He's also an interesting case of how much of an impac
>Neptunes made.

Has nothing to do with Tyler.

While it's cool to make fun of em on the
>boards (there's already been a few neptune production is dated
>and sucks posts), the work they did on laying the groundwork
>for alt black kids in hip-hop was pretty essential. Id argue
>we would still be wearing baggy jeans if it wasn't for them.

Has nothing to do with Tyler.


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19. "RE: Weird argument"
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>Lol Wayne doesn't care about this "niche." And Tyler isn't
>the king of it. Tyler is king of suburban white teenagers.

http://feeworldorder.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Lil-Wayne-Trukfit-Shoot-1.png

http://esg6rzdhdg9i115s.zippykid.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/lil-wayne-skating-detroit1_jpg_630x480_q85.jpeg

http://hiphopwired.com/2012/08/02/lil-wayne-calls-rap-pretty-boring-says-hed-rather-skateboard-listen/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGxgnuunO44

Lil Wayne would give his left arm to be king of the suburban white teenagers(why are we having this conversation in 2013 as if they aren't the bulk of hip-hop fans) ; hell you say it as a negative...there's worst things to be. Megastars from Beatles to Dr.Dre, etc....all kings of suburban white teenagers.

Now TAILORING your sound/image to get them can be problematic(ie Wayne's heel turn), but even then it's not a simple argument.

All the other things id like to have a debate with, but I fear you're just gonna fall on the O_E parody troll and just be like "TYLER SUCKS. YUR A HIPSTER. ODD FUTURE WACK" .

  

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20. "You're in here talking about little Wayne and skateboards. "
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>
>Lil Wayne would give his left arm to be king of the suburban
>white teenagers(why are we having this conversation in 2013 as
>if they aren't the bulk of hip-hop fans)

Lil Wayne has more white teenager fans than Tyler does.

He makes way, way, way more money. Has accomplished way,
way, way, way more.

; hell you say it as
>a negative...there's worst things to be. Megastars from
>Beatles to Dr.Dre, etc....all kings of suburban white
>teenagers.

Doesn't matter.

>All the other things id like to have a debate with, but I fear
>you're just gonna fall on the O_E parody troll and just be
>like "TYLER SUCKS. YUR A HIPSTER. ODD FUTURE WACK" .

Nah, you turned a post about Tyler into links about Lil Wayne
and skateboards. Tells me all I need to know about how far
Tyler has fallen -- you're not citing anything having to do
with him. You're talking about Lil Wayne and the Neptunes.

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23. "Did Tyler expose your Asian fetish or something?"
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Mon Nov-25-13 01:56 PM by mrshow

          

Oh wait, that was me. Nevermind.

  

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24. "My rapper name is "Continent Asia" "
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And "Planet Europe"

Depends on which stage I'm finna rock

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25. "Way to fail at adding on to a joke!"
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Sticking with girls who don't understand English is a good move.

  

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27. "Nah, I'm actually serious. Check my sig for a mixtape link. "
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>Sticking with girls who don't understand English is a good
>move.

Hey, as long as they can appreciate what to do with a
large dick, I'm a happy camper. : - )

What kinda pussy you swimmin' in these days?

  

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29. "Me?"
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I'm dating an heiress to the Pitchfork fortune. Im not supposed to say this but they have a file on you!

  

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31. "LOFL"
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34. "I mean..."
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...Wayne *was* the king of the suburban white teenagers from Drought 3 up until No Ceilings. Spending that year in jail and then coming back uninspired, pandering to skateboarders and on a court-ordered probation from drugs and alcohol kind of killed things for him in that regard. They don't even sell YMCMB gear in the mall anymore, but I do see a shit-ton of Odd Future merch everywhere, including socks that cost $14 with tacos on them.

Sidebar: You know what? I bet those sell like hot-cakes, Pharrell had people wearing A Bathing Ape for fucks sake. The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing grown ass people that wearing an all-over print was a good idea.

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32. "before I even read your reply I knew you would"
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Refute every single detail/point of Reg's arguement and twist it into some other shit, JUST because it was positive towards Tyler

Shit we can dig up the Wolf post where you said you loved the album, than a week later hated his lyrics, but could appreciate the quality of production

So he "doesn't suck at music" even by your own taste(s)

  

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33. "RE: No nuance is why the Lesson is killing me nowadays"
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The Lesson is basically rap fantasy sports now, hedge your bets and play along!

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21. "I have no hatred for him, but Wolf sounds like The Neptunes"
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produced the whole thing. That Badu joint sounds like a Soulquarian throw-back.
Where is his own style?
Goblin was horrible.
Bastard was really good,....but heres the problem: I can't listen to it today without cringing at how crass and immature the lyrics are.
I just can't do it. I'm 35 years old.
The production feels very elementary now as well. Creative, but it doesn't sound as good almost 4 years later.

He still talks like he's constantly taking a shit (or constipated).
The way he strains his voice. Its too extra.
I give him kudos for being so confident (despite not having a father).
I met Odd Future before, and they all are just enjoying life. No harm in that.
We've seen worse. Tyler is not a plight on humanity.
I'm kinda over OF (in general).
Right now, its all about Death Grips (sorry).

  

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22. "His voice is dope."
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He has a great rap voice. His second album is good too.

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30. "nigga, please"
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35. "If you do not like his music, then yes"
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If you are a fan of his music, then no.


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40. "he's aiight as a rapper..but that nigga is severely PAID"
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he designed all that OF shit...and that shit sells like crack...and i'm dead fucking serious

oh yeah not to mention ..no label..

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41. "and folks been biting you see Miley with that cat behind her"
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at AMa's and I saw some shit where some fashion labels was having shows biting his cat and socks shit

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43. "nigga said they made $350,000 on just socks"
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went to the store to cop my godson some shit...line long as shit..store packed with all kinds of mofos..tourists and shit..this was a tuesday...i went in with a cnote figured i'd grab the lil nigga some shit to send since he live outta town... nigga them prices was crazy..came out with two things bcz he really wanted a hoodie..that shit was $70...

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42. "YUP"
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44. "Yup...like I said: he should do fashion or something"
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>he designed all that OF shit...and that shit sells like
>crack...and i'm dead fucking serious
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>oh yeah not to mention ..no label..

He's good at iconography

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