Just listened to a bunch of her old shit

She's like, an actual wordsmith, pure wordplay spitter
type shit...as in, ELITE level wordsmith

WTFFFFF

How did I miss this

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I mean, I remember her singles being kinda corny (happened back then) and I remember like three of the album cuts: Pups Licking Bone, Grandpas Party, and the track about not eating pork. I remember liking some of the beats, but I honestly don't remember any of the lyricism. I know I liked her track on the Boyz N the Hood soundtrack, which dropped not that long after the album.

I may have the album on my hard drive. Might be time to check it again.

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And my 2nd hip hop crush (Salt was the first)

Ladies First when her and Latifah ripped it is a great example of her just spittin flames.

She's definitely slept on and can spit with the best of them, flow for flow

and kinda got left for forgotten. that one album where she worked with Prince was the end for her. Born to Bread. she was never hardly heard from again.

however ladies first and from just a spitting perspective she was nice,however the song choices made her at times seem like a accesible act and she got lost in the shuffle. would she have had a MC Lyte type of run with money and a bit stronger material behind her? hard to say however ill say this she could spit and was good on the eyelids as any other rapper female chick thats been out over the past 15 years IMO.

timing worked against her.

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

I recall she was spittin on that

Props for bringing her up.

Not productivity of course

But her TALENT!?!?

HOLY FUCK

Lesson help me out

How come y'all overlooked her?

I'm not a fan of music like that

There has to be a perfectly unreasonable hipster explanation
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not enough Native Tongue.

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Listen, I liked Monie Love.

Buddy & Ladies' First put her on the radar.

Bought Down To Earth on cassette.

Didn't hate the singles as much as MrHood mentions here but I can say that like him I pretty much forget most of that album, think the tape is somewhere down in my parent's basement & hasn't seen the light of day in decades.

Checked Spotify to see about revisiting before replying but it ain't there, probably been out of print for a stretch.

I do kinda remember there being at least one and maybe two terrible hip-house tracks on the album as was the trend at the time.

Speaking of hip-house, Afrika Baby Bam from the JB's produced the majority of it and I also recall seeing Grand Puba's name all over the liner-notes credits so I assumed he wrote most of the lyrics.

I remember it was interesting in the sense that it felt very British & personal in an era of hip-hop that was very New York & political, plus she'd been introduced to us through Native Tongue NY/NJ channels.

Then again it was a Lisa Stansfield, Soul II Soul, Dee-Lite kind of world back then though so it wasn't that out of the realm.

I recall Spin Magazine loving it & The Source shitting on it.

Even saw her live opening up for Johnny Gill/Keith Sweat/Bell Biv Devoe at the Philadelphia Spectrum in '90 or '91.

I was hyped to see her too, she came out fully pregnant in a red hoodie, did two songs-Monie In The Middle & It's A Shame-while complaining about the sound in a British accent then walked offstage.

She did not have Big Daddy Kane's talent.

Big Daddy Kane did a lot of the production on his own classics.

Big Daddy Kane wrote for Biz, no one wrote for him.

Big Daddy Kane was one of hip-hop's greatest live performers to date.

Lyrics, variety of flows, voice, content, song structure....Kane had it.....lost it shortly thereafter from a public perception & catalog standpoint but the mark was made & the talent was top-tier.

And Kane isn't lavishly praised for his productivity, he's pretty much got two albums people care about & none past the year Monie Love dropped.

i didn't think he really fell off until prince of darkness.

his first two were his best, it's true.

I was tagging 'Big Daddy Kane Is God' on lockers & binders in middle-school leading up to its release.

But it fell out of rotation before the first two albums (which still go) ever did.

Seems to be an album the culture has sorta forgotten about or dismissed as well.

I can't think of one canonical Kane song on it.

Maybe 'It's Hard Being The Kane' would make the back half of a Top 10-20.

'Cause I Can Do It Right' was a weak lead single'.

I don't wanna talk about 'All Of Me'.

'Big Daddy vs Dolemite' was funny.

It was better than Prince of Darkness but that's no major feat.

Don't get me wrong, I was definitely disappointed in it, and it was one of the first albums I returned/sold back the record store after copping it and dubbing the good tracks off of it.

>Seems to be an album the culture has sorta forgotten about or
>dismissed as well.

Which is why RA the Rugged Man put out that video on YouTube defending the album as a whole. I'm kinda with him on that.

>I can't think of one canonical Kane song on it.

Personally, I love "Put Your Weight On It." Not as well known or anthemic as "Raw" or "Warm it Up Kane" or anything, but it doesn't get much better than Kane ripping it over three classic break-beats.

>Maybe 'It's Hard Being The Kane' would make the back half of a
>Top 10-20.

Great track.

>'Cause I Can Do It Right' was a weak lead single'.

Eh, good for what is was. I liked it at least as much as "I Get the Job Done," his other pop single that didn't go too pop.

>I don't wanna talk about 'All Of Me'.

Worst Kane song ever. Thee worst. No argument.

>'Big Daddy vs Dolemite' was funny.

Yes it was.

There's some other jams on it: Mr. Pitiful, Down the Line, Who Am I? (even with the wack verse by Malcolm X's daughter), and a jam or two I'm forgetting.

So yeah, the album was the direct precursor to Kane in Playgirl, Kane in the "Sex" book, and Kane in the purple suit, but overall a decnet album.

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>Don't get me wrong, I was definitely disappointed in it, and
>it was one of the first albums I returned/sold back the record
>store after copping it and dubbing the good tracks off of it.
>
>>Seems to be an album the culture has sorta forgotten about
>or
>>dismissed as well.
>
>Which is why RA the Rugged Man put out that video on YouTube
>defending the album as a whole. I'm kinda with him on that.
>
I haven't seen that but I enjoy hearing RA speak on that kind of stuff so I'll have to check it out.

>>I can't think of one canonical Kane song on it.
>
>Personally, I love "Put Your Weight On It." Not as well known
>or anthemic as "Raw" or "Warm it Up Kane" or anything, but it
>doesn't get much better than Kane ripping it over three
>classic break-beats.
>
>>Maybe 'It's Hard Being The Kane' would make the back half of
>a
>>Top 10-20.
>
>Great track.
>
>>'Cause I Can Do It Right' was a weak lead single'.
>
>Eh, good for what is was. I liked it at least as much as "I
>Get the Job Done," his other pop single that didn't go too
>pop.
>
I Get The Job Done was Set It Off compared to that.

>>I don't wanna talk about 'All Of Me'.
>
>Worst Kane song ever. Thee worst. No argument.
>
>>'Big Daddy vs Dolemite' was funny.
>
>Yes it was.
>
>There's some other jams on it: Mr. Pitiful, Down the Line, Who
>Am I? (even with the wack verse by Malcolm X's daughter), and
>a jam or two I'm forgetting.
>
>So yeah, the album was the direct precursor to Kane in
>Playgirl, Kane in the "Sex" book, and Kane in the purple suit,
>but overall a decnet album.

Kane in the hot tub & speedo on stage (though that was pretty damn funny in retrospect) but yeah.

>Lyrics, variety of flows, voice, content, song
>structure....Kane had it.....lost it shortly thereafter from a
>public perception & catalog standpoint but the mark was made &
>the talent was top-tier.
>
>And Kane isn't lavishly praised for his productivity, he's
>pretty much got two albums people care about & none past the
>year Monie Love dropped.

Well, yeah

Kane is dope

But Monie could spit

Dope post, tho


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>
>>Lyrics, variety of flows, voice, content, song
>>structure....Kane had it.....lost it shortly thereafter from
>a
>>public perception & catalog standpoint but the mark was made
>&
>>the talent was top-tier.
>>
>>And Kane isn't lavishly praised for his productivity, he's
>>pretty much got two albums people care about & none past the
>>year Monie Love dropped.
>
>Well, yeah
>
>Kane is dope
>
>But Monie could spit
>
yes, she definitely could, she could sorta flip an early double-time flow & still sound conversational.....and did so without a trace of British accent, which sorta sank other less-skilled peers from that era (Derek B, Wee Papa Girls) who weren't Slick Rick.

>Dope post, tho
>
thank you sir.

("Strange Vibrations from the Hard core" radio show in NYC to be exact)

somewhat back when Monie's first LP was released.

See, we black rockers know what's good....that song rocked us.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQNWlesRe7U

Her and Latifah killed that joint.

And speaking of old school, and i know it doesn't need to be said, but they also played some old Roxanne Shante and gotdamn that girl could SPIT. Like FLAMES son even considering it was still the 80s.