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Chanson
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"Poll question: Is The Marshall Mathers LP a classic album?"


  

          

With all the hype surrounding the release of The Marshall Mathers LP 2 I went back and listened to the original Marshall Mathers LP.

For years I have concluded that Em was the only rapper who people call the GOAT that didn't have a certified hip-hop classic under their belt.

But in going back and listening to the original MMLP I think I need to revise that position.

There definitely is a classic contained within the 18 tracks on the album. The problem for me lies in the inclusion of "Ken Kaniff (Skit)", "Drug Ballad", "Amityville" and "Under The Influence". You take these tracks off and hands down it's a classic.

They're on there though so it becomes a bit of a debate for me. Given everything that surrounded this album upon its release, and the fact that it remains the crown jewel in Eminem's catalog, how can I deny the fact that it's a classic?

What's OKPs consensus 13 years later? Classic? Great but not quite? Other opinion?

Let's talk about it (or at least vote).

Poll result (27 votes)
Yes (18 votes)Vote
No (9 votes)Vote

  

  

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I love drug ballad and amityville
Nov 11th 2013
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RE: I love drug ballad and amityville
Nov 11th 2013
5
this assumes that classics can't have weak cuts.
Nov 11th 2013
2
I disagree with that apple-cart-theory to calling something a classic
Nov 11th 2013
6
Word. I'm not sure where this view even came from.
Nov 12th 2013
9
RE: Is The Marshall Mathers LP a classic album?
Nov 11th 2013
3
no, sad re-branding-sequel-to-crowbar-the-first-one-into-classic-status
Nov 11th 2013
4
To me it's his best album
Nov 11th 2013
7
imho, yes n/m
Nov 12th 2013
8
It's Diamond, nuff said
Nov 12th 2013
10
Please Hammer Don't Hurt 'Em is Diamond too
Nov 12th 2013
11
Nuff said son!
Nov 12th 2013
14
Creed, Hootie, Backstreet Boys,and Meatloaf went diamond too.
Nov 12th 2013
16
yes
Nov 12th 2013
12
Hmmm...a classic that you never listen to
Nov 12th 2013
15
It is, and it's is best album
Nov 12th 2013
13

Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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1. "I love drug ballad and amityville"
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I'd remove Bitch Please II and Under the Influence

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5. "RE: I love drug ballad and amityville"
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>I'd remove Bitch Please II and Under the Influence

I love those two AND Bitch Please II. Could do with or without Under the Influence.

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Joe Corn Mo
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Mon Nov-11-13 09:29 PM

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2. "this assumes that classics can't have weak cuts. "
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the list of classic albums with NO weak songs is really short.
and even if a song on an album isn't straight up awful...
sometimes it sounds bad because the album peaks so high elsewhere.


besides, nobody can agree about which songs should be removed from MMLP,
assuming any songs should be removed. drug ballad is one of my favorites ever.


so, yes.
it's a classic.

  

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6. "I disagree with that apple-cart-theory to calling something a classic"
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there's plenty of albums without weak songs that ain't classics and plenty of classics with a weak song.

  

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Ashley Ayers
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Tue Nov-12-13 04:31 AM

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9. "Word. I'm not sure where this view even came from."
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venom36200
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Mon Nov-11-13 09:33 PM

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3. "RE: Is The Marshall Mathers LP a classic album?"
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it might be his best album, but I don't consider it a classic.

  

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Bombastic
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4. "no, sad re-branding-sequel-to-crowbar-the-first-one-into-classic-status"
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even more egregious than the upcoming Muddy Waters 2 or Doe Or Die 2, however still far more acceptable than The Hunger For More 2.

  

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Paps_Smear
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7. "To me it's his best album"
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And for its time yeah I think it's right up there to be a classic

Nothing he's released after that has come close. It's honestly sad to see it go in that direction cause dude can spit his ass off.

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justin_scott
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8. "imho, yes n/m"
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10. "It's Diamond, nuff said"
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11. "Please Hammer Don't Hurt 'Em is Diamond too"
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14. "Nuff said son! "
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Hammer got classics

  

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16. "Creed, Hootie, Backstreet Boys,and Meatloaf went diamond too."
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philpot
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12. "yes"
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i haven't listened to it in years tho

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15. "Hmmm...a classic that you never listen to"
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13. "It is, and it's is best album"
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