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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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He was on Juan Epstein recently http://youtu.be/GqKAXQzJyaE

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Heard the whole thing this morning.
Oct 31st 2013
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Big nor Pac deserve to be on a top ten lyricist list
Oct 31st 2013
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Agreed.
Oct 31st 2013
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^^^ on point
Nov 01st 2013
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RE: Heard the whole thing this morning.
Oct 31st 2013
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      Fixed this for you
Oct 31st 2013
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           Basically....
Oct 31st 2013
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           LOL you went at the one dude that always says the same shit
Oct 31st 2013
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           I don't keep up with dudes, i barely check this forum
Oct 31st 2013
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           Haha... yeah that was amazing.
Oct 31st 2013
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           RE: You don't have to fix nothing for me. I'm from the south
Oct 31st 2013
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           ^^^^^^
Oct 31st 2013
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           RE: You don't have to fix nothing for me. I'm from the south
Oct 31st 2013
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                It's all relative
Nov 01st 2013
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           ^
Nov 30th 2013
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I'm more surprised he had Pun top 10 over Big
Nov 01st 2013
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bout time someone does
Nov 01st 2013
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These dudes are saying road to the riches was happy?
Nov 01st 2013
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How is BIG not a top 10 lyricist?
Nov 01st 2013
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Because he isn't.
Nov 01st 2013
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http://tinyurl.com/nke3fts
Nov 02nd 2013
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he's a flow/clever line/storyteller guy, not a lyric savant
Nov 02nd 2013
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thats a dope top 10
Nov 01st 2013
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iono big was kinda boring but had some hot ass lines, ill voice
Nov 02nd 2013
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Certain cats should be allowed to determine a definitive top 10 list
Nov 29th 2013
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But since there's more than one "certain cat"...
Nov 29th 2013
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      I'm pretty sure we'd get enough of a consensus to figure it out.
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JFrost1117
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1. "Heard the whole thing this morning."
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They were listing lyricists. He didn't have Pac on the list either.

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Garhart Poppwell
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2. "Big nor Pac deserve to be on a top ten lyricist list "
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4. "Agreed."
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19. "^^^ on point"
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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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3. "RE: Heard the whole thing this morning."
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He had Cube and Scarface on the list too though and they aren't known for being lyricists

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5. "Fixed this for you"
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>He had Cube and Scarface on the list too though and they
>aren't known for being from NY so I have to say slick but ridiculous shit to discredit them

  

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6. "Basically...."
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>>He had Cube and Scarface on the list too though and they
>>aren't known for being from NY so I have to say slick but
>ridiculous shit to discredit them
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7. "LOL you went at the one dude that always says the same shit"
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Mgmt
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10. "I don't keep up with dudes, i barely check this forum"
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12. "Haha... yeah that was amazing."
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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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8. "RE: You don't have to fix nothing for me. I'm from the south"
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>>He had Cube and Scarface on the list too though and they
>>aren't known for being from NY so I have to say slick but
>ridiculous shit to discredit them
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and they're both in my top 10. I just found it odd that he'd say Biggie wasn't lyrical but Face and Cube are.

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9. "^^^^^^"
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Tony Hanes
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11. "RE: You don't have to fix nothing for me. I'm from the south"
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That's just silly. Biggie was lyrical. Biggie was lyrical in a clever way not a "scientific" way.

  

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15. "It's all relative"
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Many people take "lyrical" as in how an MC strings their words together and the vocabulary they use in getting their concept across.

Big had clever rhymes but his style doesn't necessarily fit that definition of "lyrical" and when we are using G Rap as the basis one can understand how he's viewing his top 10.

So to me it's not surprising that he has that opinion of Big and Pac.

A lot of people do.

If you put Monch and Big on the same song, you would probably come away saying;

"You heard WHAT Big said"

and

"You heard HOW Monch killed that"

It comes down to what style excites you more as a listener.

And this is to say Big isn't good with rhyme structure or Monch isn't good with what he's saying because they both are good all around, but what hey stand out for are opposites.

  

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Luke Cage
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13. "I'm more surprised he had Pun top 10 over Big"
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Either way great list and hard to argue with any of the all time greats he named.

  

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14. "bout time someone does"
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PUN adored G Rap, I'm sure that did not hurt, but Pun was a better rapper then BIG, and I love BIG

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16. "These dudes are saying road to the riches was happy?"
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Do you not hear what he's spittin on that song? Don't get me wrong I love to dance to that record but "many necks got broke, and if provoked I let the pistol smoke."

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17. "How is BIG not a top 10 lyricist?"
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18. "Because he isn't. "
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21. "http://tinyurl.com/nke3fts"
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http://tinyurl.com/nke3fts

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22. "he's a flow/clever line/storyteller guy, not a lyric savant"
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basically for the same reason you wouldn't put Ricky D in a top ten lyricist list
this is just for the rocket fuel niggas, Biggie is hi-test premium

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20. "thats a dope top 10"
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23. "iono big was kinda boring but had some hot ass lines, ill voice"
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slim to me is one of these dudes who was meant to flame out. if he made two records and the first lp then overdosed or went chappelle/ricky williams status, his shit would be stronger to me. he had a raw energy then combined with sick wordplay, etc. his shit kinda got tired and he was detached from the gritty shit that made him ill early on.

i dunno, top 10 emcee lists are always kinda wack to me. i could see an argument for either as top 10 or not, but if the list were say 50 or even 25 prolly, yeah, def both would be on it.

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24. "Certain cats should be allowed to determine a definitive top 10 list"
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G Rap is one of those certain cats.


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25. "But since there's more than one "certain cat"..."
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how can a list be "definitive"??

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26. "I'm pretty sure we'd get enough of a consensus to figure it out."
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"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

  

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