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lonesome_d
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"I knew Pentangle/B. Jansch influence was growing, but this is ridiculous"


          

in a good way, of course

https://soundcloud.com/tompkinssquare/the-west-wind-by-ryley-walker

not that this is mainstream Lesson fodder, but in as much as the boards are a microcosm of music geekdom as a whole, over the past decade I've seen an increasing awareness of and respect for Pentangle's jazz/folk hybrid and especially the Jansch school of guitar. So it's no surprise that younger musicians are coming along citing him/them as an influence.

But this one is, in Austin's words, uncanny. Outside of the fiddle (and lack of a distinctive bass part), I would have guessed this track was an outtake from Cruel Sister.

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so I'm in a band now:
album ---> http://greenwoodburns.bandcamp.com/releases
Soundcloud ---> http://soundcloud.com/greenwood-burns

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this is lovely.
Oct 24th 2013
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indeed
Oct 24th 2013
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      you have.
Oct 26th 2013
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somehow I knew this would be about Ryley Walker before I clicked
Oct 24th 2013
2
Man, is all his stuff that much of an homage?
Oct 24th 2013
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      well, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of material to go on
Oct 24th 2013
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           Thanks, I'll check that out
Oct 24th 2013
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                RE: Thanks, I'll check that out
Oct 24th 2013
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Geez...this sounds like Tim Buckley meets Jansch/Renbourne
Oct 24th 2013
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I think that's what it's supposed to sound like
Oct 24th 2013
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sounds good...btw
Oct 24th 2013
10
haha,,, don't know that album, but Steeleye's frequently great
Oct 25th 2013
11

shockzilla
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1. "this is lovely."
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i love this sound so much.

  

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lonesome_d
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4. "indeed"
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I think I've played you some of the stuff he's clearly honoring here before, yes?

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so I'm in a band now:
album ---> http://greenwoodburns.bandcamp.com/releases
Soundcloud ---> http://soundcloud.com/greenwood-burns

my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

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shockzilla
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12. "you have."
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i need more of it in my life.

  

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JayEmm
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Thu Oct-24-13 10:22 AM

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2. "somehow I knew this would be about Ryley Walker before I clicked"
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I was recently turned on to his music by a friend that knows (and shares) my obsession with all things Fahey
the Jansch influence is evident throughout much of his work, as is that trademark 'folk drone' sound of those like Kottke, Jack Rose, Fahey, etc

exciting stuff, I'm anxious to hear more

  

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lonesome_d
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3. "Man, is all his stuff that much of an homage?"
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I mean, the voice sounds exactly like Jansch, hard to imagine it's a coincidence.

While Tompkins Sqaure has been issuing a ridiculous amount of fingerstyle both old and new (their Soundcloud is a gem, keep meaning to getting around to buying their catalog), the tags on this included 'John Martyn' and 'Tim Buckley'. I'll have to check for more of his stuff to see if those influences are clearer on other tracks (I'm especially a Martyn fan, at least up through about 75 or so).

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so I'm in a band now:
album ---> http://greenwoodburns.bandcamp.com/releases
Soundcloud ---> http://soundcloud.com/greenwood-burns

my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

avy by buckshot_defunct

  

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JayEmm
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Thu Oct-24-13 11:50 AM

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5. "well, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of material to go on"
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the only recording of his that I have is this recent 'release' from a show in Germany, http://dyingforbadmusic.com/boot04-ryley-walker-15-oct-2013.phtml
other than that, there's a handful of Youtube vids, some out-of-print recordings, a few soundcloud tracks, and seemingly little else

all of those influences are still very apparent, though, while still being able to have a sound that displays his own identity
(even though he is the most un-Chicago sounding Chicagoan I've ever heard)

  

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lonesome_d
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7. "Thanks, I'll check that out"
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I'm not sure I knew you were into Faheyana, though... we had a pretty good fingerpicking post this summer you might want to check out - http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2826965&mesg_id=2826965&listing_type=search


>all of those influences are still very apparent, though, while
>still being able to have a sound that displays his own
>identity
>(even though he is the most un-Chicago sounding Chicagoan I've
>ever heard)

Not sure what you mean by that unless it's the accent or something. But most of the (admittedly limited) Chicago music I listen to either passed at some point through the Old Town School of Folk Music, or is somehow associated with post-rock, so...

-------
so I'm in a band now:
album ---> http://greenwoodburns.bandcamp.com/releases
Soundcloud ---> http://soundcloud.com/greenwood-burns

my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

avy by buckshot_defunct

  

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JayEmm
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Thu Oct-24-13 02:47 PM

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9. "RE: Thanks, I'll check that out"
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>>(even though he is the most un-Chicago sounding Chicagoan
>I've
>>ever heard)
>
>Not sure what you mean by that unless it's the accent or
>something. But most of the (admittedly limited) Chicago music
>I listen to either passed at some point through the Old Town
>School of Folk Music, or is somehow associated with post-rock,
>so...

yeah, it's the Jansch-like, UK sounding vocals I was referring to.
mauvaise blague

I'll have to check out that fingerpicking post
I don't travel through these parts very often these days so I miss a lot of gems. thanks

  

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supablak
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Thu Oct-24-13 11:58 AM

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6. "Geez...this sounds like Tim Buckley meets Jansch/Renbourne"
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*smh*

s.blak
TOO MUCH

keep: looking,searching,seeking,finding

  

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lonesome_d
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8. "I think that's what it's supposed to sound like"
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and I have to think the vocal similarity to Jansch is intentional

I ain't mad though!

-------
so I'm in a band now:
album ---> http://greenwoodburns.bandcamp.com/releases
Soundcloud ---> http://soundcloud.com/greenwood-burns

my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

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amplifya7
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Thu Oct-24-13 04:58 PM

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10. "sounds good...btw"
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i did my first record dig in a long while recently, and the first record I threw on from it without really knowing what it was but just going off the cover was Steeleye Span's "Storm Force Ten"...within 30 seconds a thought that crossed my mind was "I bet lonesome_d listens to this", especially after reading some of the members also played in Fairport Convention

Just did a search and it seems like you're the sole person in The Lesson to mention them, in 3 different threads, haha.

Bandcamp/IG/FB/Twitter: @hecticzeniths

  

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lonesome_d
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11. "haha,,, don't know that album, but Steeleye's frequently great"
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and certainly John Kirkpatrick (the accordion player on that record, not usually a member of the group) is a gentleman of distinction.

>i did my first record dig in a long while recently, and the
>first record I threw on from it without really knowing what it
>was but just going off the cover was Steeleye Span's "Storm
>Force Ten"...within 30 seconds a thought that crossed my mind
>was "I bet lonesome_d listens to this", especially after
>reading some of the members also played in Fairport
>Convention
>
>Just did a search and it seems like you're the sole person in
>The Lesson to mention them, in 3 different threads, haha.

Probably recommending people check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7pnRgBan7c (make it through the a capella part, and you'll be glad you did) - from a producing perspective I think those guys have some killer riffs & sounds that would make great samples.

-------
so I'm in a band now:
album ---> http://greenwoodburns.bandcamp.com/releases
Soundcloud ---> http://soundcloud.com/greenwood-burns

my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

avy by buckshot_defunct

  

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