Judging based off of their first 2 albums only...

Word...Life & Jewelz

vs

The Sun Rises in the East & Wrath of the Math

and please discuss albums below

which was the best out of the 4?

Poll result (18 votes) The Star Child (7 votes) Vote The Dirty Rotten Scoundrel (11 votes) Vote

And OC didn't have wack beats so it's not enough.

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"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

how would you rank those 4 albums?

But it's probably

Sun
Jewelz
Word
Math

Two OC's are interchangeable though.

But again the only reason sun is at the top is because Premier killed that shit.

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"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

Primo definitely killed Sun Rises.

I think I'd rank them;

Jewelz
Word...Life
The Sun Rises In The East
Wrath of the Math

I'd maybe switch Word and Sun Rises depending on my mood.

I think I may be OC biased because dude has been one of my favorites for a long time and Trophies put him over the top and easily into my top 10 *favorite* MCs of all-time.

Something about that Jewelz record that gets me. It doesn't have Time's Up or Born 2 Live but there's something very cohesive yet still very versatile about that album.

while other MCs went over-board with the versatility by having the commercial attempt, the joint for the ladies, the street single etc, it seemed like they weren't being themselves on those records and were trying to fit a mold. OC somehow accomplished that versatility while never not sounding like himself. Not many albums like it in my opinion.

Buckwild, Primo, Show, Lord Finesse, Beatminerz, Ogee all laced him.

My World is classic.

Foxx comes through.

Big L comes through.

Far From Yours is one of my favorite blatant commercial attempts of that era.

Stronjay is classic.

the title track is ridiculous.

as an over all record it's definitely one of my favorites of all-time and one of the most underrated.

Just thinking of the video brings a warm feeling to my heart. Dope song right there.

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I pretty much agree with everything you said..

therefore, Omar Credle wins

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I know people flip over that Come Clean beat, but shit, that Time's Up joint is the one I flip over.

if I was an athlete, I'd come out to that song all-day! LOL

and lyrically, OC wins as well.

I'm leaning toward Jeru personally, because I hold The Sun Rises in really high esteem. It has a great pacing, and "Come Clean" is a monster track. "Mental Stamina" is incredible too. It really only comes apart in during "Da Bichez". I also think Wrath is probably the weakest of the four, but it does have a lot of standout tracks with "Whatever" and "Me or the Papes".

O.C. is more consistent though. Jewelz is a personal fave, but it has too many interludes.

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>O.C. is more consistent though. Jewelz is a personal fave,
>but it has too many interludes.

I need you to explain this because I HATE interludes but there is really only one interlude on Jewelz, the one before Win The G.

The others are brief instrumentals like Pete Rock does. Those interludes bother you?

I actually am all for those because they can help pace the album.

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>>O.C. is more consistent though. Jewelz is a personal fave,
>>but it has too many interludes.
>
>I need you to explain this because I HATE interludes but there
>is really only one interlude on Jewelz, the one before Win The
>G.
>
>The others are brief instrumentals like Pete Rock does. Those
>interludes bother you?
>
>I actually am all for those because they can help pace the
>album.

It's not that they are bad but it's just so many of them. I think I would like it better if they were their own tracks so I can skip them if I wanted to. That's my biggest problem with them. Sometimes you just want to hear the song. I don't need to have a 20 second intro on every other song. For the record, it bothers me when everyone does it. It just seems really pronounced to me on Jewelz. I think O.C. is an incredible emcee, and I listen to the album to hear him rap, ya know. But if you have them, just make them separate tracks.

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>It's not that they are bad but it's just so many of them.

When was the last time to listened to the album? There's the Intro which I'm not even going to count because it doesn't break the pace, which is what your complaint is.

The Chosen One
Far From Yours
Jewelz

Those are the only three tracks which contain an instrumental before the track. How does that equal "so many"?

>think I would like it better if they were their own tracks so
>I can skip them if I wanted to.

That's fair I guess. I always prefer ANY type of interlude to at least be tracked after a song as opposed to in front of it.

That's my biggest problem
>with them. Sometimes you just want to hear the song. I don't
>need to have a 20 second intro on every other song. For the
>record, it bothers me when everyone does it. It just seems
>really pronounced to me on Jewelz. I think O.C. is an
>incredible emcee, and I listen to the album to hear him rap,
>ya know. But if you have them, just make them separate
>tracks.
>

I won't argue with your complaint because that's your opinion. I just don't think there are that many on the album and the beats are actually dope so I don't have a problem with the at all. The ones before Far From Yours and Jewelz could've been songs that he rhymed on.

"Sun Rises..." (the best of the four) was pretty much flawless start to finish, whereas "Word... Life", as much as I like it, had a couple tracks I really wasn't feeling ("Ga Head" and especially "Story").

"Jewelz" gets the edge over "Wrath of the Math", but doesn't do enough to tip the scale overall in OC's favor.

OC is the better lyricist. And Jeru had the better beats.

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I still play Sun Rises In The East to this day and it hasn't lost anything. Despite what people say about this only being about Premiere I disagree and think Jeru flowed perfectly over those beats with his own style that stood out and made it a perfect marriage of lyrics and music for me.

...and love the awkward flow, especially on "Wrath...".

Ranking the 4 albums on nothing other than what I've played the most over the years and reach for the most often is:

Wrath
Jewelz
Sun
Word...Life

I have nothing but love for O.C. and don't let the rankings make you think there's some huge gap between each album.

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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

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Love all four albums but I give OC the slightest edge if we take an average score between the albums, but by slight edge I mean Rocky winning over Creed in Rocky 2.

i think the first two are tied though
with jeru havin' a slight edge due to primo production
buckwild wasn't no slouch though either

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