I'll never forget the day this album came out - The Lesson went nuts with praises and criticisms - it was a good time to be a poster back then.

Let's discuss this album, and how it's aged - do you think it's aged well? Is it still a classic?

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The big arguments were which side is better, but no doubt Big Boi's side has aged better.

it was a very good album, but not one I've had a desire to pick up and play for quite a while
Spread is still my favorite song on the album though, between the two of them

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Love Below begat 808 begat so far gone begat what we have now.

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"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

influence alone does not a classic make

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infulence impact great music won album of the year.

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"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

influence --check

impact-- check

great music -- check

won album of the year -- check


cats will still deny it... it's laughable

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>influence --check
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>impact-- check
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>great music -- debatable
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>won album of the year -- check
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>cats will still deny it... it's laughable

no it's pretty objective and it's stupid as fuck the way you niggas act like people saying shit ain't classic has to be some sort of agenda
'cats will still deny it'...nigga please

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expressed it in a different post


no one is suggesting YOU have to like it, nor give it YOUR stamp of
approval, but you're off your rocker if you think all the accolades,
spins, album sales, and dope music is NOT objective. Most folk
praise so much mediocre shit on this site, but whenever SB/TLB comes
into conversation, it gets severe critiques... I'll put that album
up against anything that's dropped in the last 10 years.

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>no one is suggesting YOU have to like it, nor give it YOUR
>stamp of
>approval, but you're off your rocker if you think all the
>accolades,
>spins, album sales, and dope music is NOT objective.

didn't say anything about any of that, besides none of that makes a classic


>Most
>folk
>praise so much mediocre shit on this site, but whenever SB/TLB
>comes
>into conversation, it gets severe critiques

and critics love mediorce albums and mediocre albums move tons of units and are popular



>... I'll put that
>album
>up against anything that's dropped in the last 10 years.
>

and you'd come out on the losing end more than once

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While I see So Far Gone having been influenced by 808s (and a lot of the singing these days influenced by that) I don't see TLB having been a huge influence on 808. Kanye was more influences by the huge autotunizm that had taken over rap at the time, he just took it to a different level of usage.

is the influence.

TLB kinda opened the floodgates for rappers who can't sing. and rappers who can't play guitar. lol

fuck you.

SB has aged a bit better, for sure.

i can't hardly listen to TLB.

fuck you.

. . .that Speakerboxxx was the better half.

By quite a lot, actually.


"get better." http://bit.ly/18Ep2eH
"jacques (new mix)." http://bit.ly/17V33fa
"with henry james." http://bit.ly/1cIpnM6
"(pushed by) wind." http://bit.ly/180r30E
"one year later." http://bit.ly/1eQNPwI
"broken education." http://bit.ly/16Q6u8A

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"get better." http://bit.ly/18Ep2eH
"jacques (new mix)." http://bit.ly/17V33fa
"with henry james." http://bit.ly/1cIpnM6
"(pushed by) wind." http://bit.ly/180r30E
"one year later." http://bit.ly/1eQNPwI
"broken education." http://bit.ly/16Q6u8A

and "The way you move" are greaaaaaaaaaat...Bowtie shoulda for sure been a single.

Andre's was dope musically..his single felt like a joke a lot, but like a "wow, he bullshittin but this is dope" type of joke. Even the first two songs...the Sinatra sounding one, then the Straight ahead Jazz one, had a nice vibes on them. I was never a big fan of "Hey ya" and it was always novelty to me, but it's tolerable. "Prototype" is one of the greatest "should be a reference track" songs ever...meaning, the version recorded is good, but it works better as a reference track. I've heard it re-made by a lot of artists, even small unknown ones, and they made it sound amazing.

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>and "The way you move" are greaaaaaaaaaat...Bowtie shoulda
>for sure been a single.
>
>Andre's was dope musically..his single felt like a joke a lot,
>but like a "wow, he bullshittin but this is dope" type of
>joke. Even the first two songs...the Sinatra sounding one,
>then the Straight ahead Jazz one, had a nice vibes on them. I
>was never a big fan of "Hey ya" and it was always novelty to
>me, but it's tolerable. "Prototype" is one of the greatest
>"should be a reference track" songs ever...meaning, the
>version recorded is good, but it works better as a reference
>track. I've heard it re-made by a lot of artists, even small
>unknown ones, and they made it sound amazing.

Like Tame Impala

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b530JJ9spd0

doooooooooooooooope cover

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What stands out the most to me about this album is that it earned them country boys from Atlanta the Album of The Year award at the Grammys that year.

I want to say, it was the first hip hop album to win AOTY unless you count Lauryn Hill. My facts could be off as Im going from shotty memory here.

Either way, watchin that win was glorious. They had just finished an outstanding performance with Bootsy Collins and sum of the P-funk crew..And minutes later the Grammy's closed out the show by announcing the Outkast win and you could just feel the overwhelming excitement on Dre & Big's faces. Andre was jumpin up and down like a damn 5yr old.

I was proud for hip hop that day. Very dope to see it go down live.

As big as the album was, no one expected it to win AOTY at the Grammy's of all places. MTV awards maybe, AMA maybe but not the Grammys.

fuck you.

lol

fuck you.

Because she was widely regarded as the illest RAPPER in the fugees.

fuck you.

Both Outkast and Lauryn Hill are products of Hip Hop no matter how much singing they got on their albums. I know this...you know this... and the hip hop community knows it. So we can still regard Lauryn's Miseducation as the first Hip Hop AOTY. But Im not talkin about those of us that are "of" the culture.

I don't think there's any denyin that the Lauryn album was a lot more.. palatable/accessible to middle America. Therfore more likely to earn an AOTY accolade.

The Outkast album has more notes of hood/ghetto/truth/hip hop sensibilities..whatever you wanna call it. As the more "hood" album its more of a feat to earn AOTY which is usually reserved for albums that are more transcendent

So...far as Im concerned its the first "real" hip hop Album Of the Year...

That shit certainly wasn't for the hood haha

"get better." http://bit.ly/18Ep2eH
"jacques (new mix)." http://bit.ly/17V33fa
"with henry james." http://bit.ly/1cIpnM6
"(pushed by) wind." http://bit.ly/180r30E
"one year later." http://bit.ly/1eQNPwI
"broken education." http://bit.ly/16Q6u8A

10 years? Sheeeeeeeeit.

I remember I bought this album and Obie Trice's album which also came out that day, and listened to all 3 discs in quick succession.

I'm not sure which one I like more out of SBXXX/TLB but they both have pretty fucking amazing moments, to be sure. I wish I spent more time on this board when that album came out, can only imagine the commentary and the varying degrees of love and hatred it garnered.

And like someone already mentioned - it is both remarkable and awesome that it won AOTY at the Grammys. So cool.

Also - it went diamond. Which is wild.

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>Also - it went diamond. Which is wild.

Each sale counted 2x so it really sold 5+ mil

count double discs...but since they do...I mean...yeah!

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"get better." http://bit.ly/18Ep2eH
"jacques (new mix)." http://bit.ly/17V33fa
"with henry james." http://bit.ly/1cIpnM6
"(pushed by) wind." http://bit.ly/180r30E
"one year later." http://bit.ly/1eQNPwI
"broken education." http://bit.ly/16Q6u8A

i'm ol' as fuck.


i was happy with it overall. gotta lotta heavy rotation/replay value outta TLB. started out as a weird experience, and from there it just grew and grew on me.

Speakerboxx was... not wack, but not really that good. Glad Big Boi at least had a big hit record off of it. and he was completely forgiven after he came with the Sir Lucious Leftfoot album. shit was buautiful!

andre and big absolutely murder everything, but Love Below just grabs me a little more than Speakerboxxx

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That album and the album's format were inevitable but they really should've never happened.

I wish they just broke up after Stankonia.

I still bust out TLB a few times a year. I haven't heard Speakerboxxx in quite a while though (save for Bowtie which gets randomly stuck in my head). When they came out it was similar. TLB dominated my listening. I remember that Spread was the ringtone for the girl I was seeing back then. The record came out my freshman year of college and I remember being so annoyed with Hey Ya... all the white frat parties played it ALL THE TIME. It was kinda annoying to begin with and they killed it. I still have a love/hate relationship with that song. The Way You Move, was played almost as much but never ever got on my nerves like Hey Ya did.

Earlier this year after the bar/club we were riding home and Roses came on. Needless to say, in-the-car drunken sing along.

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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

however aside from their movie and soundtrack they have pretty much Broken up.

and this album had a few tight cuts, however i think Big Boi had the better side as we have since seen 3 stacks ain't no singer or guitar player,etc.. its a cool novelty, however dude didn't didn't exactly burn up the charts with this jump off project.

we have never gotten a true follow up from Outkast and we don't know if they have truly peaked and couldn't come back again.

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

"its a cool novelty, however dude didn't exactly burn up the charts with this jump off project."


are you talking about some new project, cause The Love Below absolutely burnt up the charts.

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or at the box office.

i know about stankonia. however they hit that their thriller 10 years back. middle america jogged,went to starbucks and shopping off of hey ya and the way you move, don't even front.

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

both have classic lines, and Hey Ya was #1 longer, but they were solidified household names even in old folks homes after Stankonia. Hey Ya/The Way You Move made them bigger even still, but it's not like that was what catapulted them from rap stars to "big time acclaim."

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Hey ya and the way you move is their Billie Jean and Beat it. don't get it twisted.

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

Damn time flies

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The Way You Move was huge. Hey Ya was HUGE.

I need to revisit both albums. I've never given SB a fair shot and I love the random shit on TLB (I listen to My Favorite Things the most lol)

i remember that being one of my favorite tracks on the album when i first got it. then it blew up and even my teachers were singing it. lost its appeal to me then.

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"get better." http://bit.ly/18Ep2eH
"doctor who nursery rhyme." http://bit.ly/18oC1gH
"jacques (new mix)." http://bit.ly/17V33fa
"with henry james." http://bit.ly/1cIpnM6
"(pushed by) wind." http://bit.ly/180r30E
"one year later." http://bit.ly/1eQNPwI

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

Speakerboxx is dope tho

I believe it's aged well enough.

I consider TLB a classic. I consider SB a great album.

SB, obviously, has better rap songs on it..

Someone mentioned 808's, but I point to College Dropout. I don't think Kanye would have taken some of the stylistic choices he made on that debut if it weren't for SB/TLB getting the sales, critical acclaim, and awards it did. As a result, his following career trajectory would've probably been much different as well.

I listend to the "Love below"-part maybe 2-3 times and haven't returned; that vibe really isn't my bag and people saying it helped inspire Drake or "808..." doesn't exactly help; records like that have practically nothing to do with what I like about music in general and Hip-Hop in particular (and yes, I know that "Love below" wasn't really a Hip-Hop album; still, it was made by someone I thought of as a rapper and whatever it was he did instead was not for me).

Big Boi's record was pretty good though-"Bowtie" was funky as fuck and so was "the rooster" and several other songs. I haven't listened to it in many years but I remember digging it.

Still, the album as a whole just isn't too good IMO and neither was "Stankonia" even if it was better as a whole. "Aquemini" is the Outkast album for me and the first two are dope as well-Atliens in particular but the debut have several killer individual songs even if it doesn't really dazzle. Still, I must admit I find this group and their discography somewhat overrated (*ducks*) and not really something that can compete with EPMD, Gang Starr, BDP or ATCQ... Yes, I'm dead on OKP now...

Everybody has their own flavor of ice cream. I'm with you....Aquemini, at liens and southernplaya...all were ahead of Speaker/Stankonia