I'm a huge Big L fan let me first say. I use to listen to his debut LP in college often and loved "Street Struck" to death. At the same time, his murder made some fans overrate his hip hop status. (like all MC's b/c nobody said Biggie, Tupac & Big Pun were the best MC's of all time when they were alive. At least, not around my way.) Anyway, when I watch youtube videos of Big L, interviews or an article on a Hip Hop site fans often say he is a Top 10 MC and that is crazy to me. He could rap. He had skills and could have been a star but was killed early.

1. What are your thoughts on Big L as an overall MC?
2. What are your thoughts on his 2 albums?
3. Would he have blown up in your eyes?

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I mean, he has no ranking to me as I don't know where to place him but I was a fan.

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>1. What are your thoughts on Big L as an overall MC? I think he has good lyrical content and he keeps it real hood.
>2. What are your thoughts on his 2 albums? I havent heard all his songs
>3. Would he have blown up in your eyes?
hell yeah, i know maaad people that feel him

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There's no question he's overrated because in his life all he really gave us was potential. For the time though as an MC his potential was greater than Jay-Z's. That's not to say he would have gone to Jay-Z status but it's that type of projection that leads to people ranking him so high.

>1. What are your thoughts on Big L as an overall MC?

He was authentic and I don't mean that about his ties to the street, but as an MC. He gave you him on the mic unabashedly so, and with a skill for the words that was unlike many in the game.

>2. What are your thoughts on his 2 albums?

Great display's of lyricism, some decent production but not the greatest songs.

>3. Would he have blown up in your eyes?

He could have but it's hard to think about in hindsight now because the stage was set so much differently then. If he had joined Rocafella pretty much the whole state of hip-hop could have shifted and its impossible to know how that would have worked out.

>**Random Big L comment

It's highly likely he was one of many at a b-ball game turned street brawl at my jhs. It's always crazy for me to think that what killed him at the end of the day was tied to the same dumb shit we were all doing in jhs.


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irrevlant? really now? Vol 2 drop in 98..Big L died in 99.

He more than likely could have got to Camron/Beanie Sigel level tho if he got down with the Roc.

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Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." © Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

had the same beat and see what Biggie did with it and what Big L did with it.

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"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

What beat/ songs were these?

>What beat/ songs were these?

Big L's MVP and Biggie's One More Chance Remix used the same sample. I think that's what he's referring to.

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I always saw L as a artist who could have used the filter/ guidance of a Diddy b/w his influence from DITC to be an MC of Biggie's pedigree on wax. His raw talent was off the meter. The major difference between BIG & Big L was Diddy. He helped coach Biggie on how to make radio/ club/ dance-friendly hiphop w/ a street edge. Big never really had that. Virtually every East Coast MC post-BIG reached for that formula if they wished to crossover w/ no shame. L kept it really grimey for the most part and a lot of his stuff sounded like demo/mixtape material.

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I heard rumors that Jay was about to sign him due to the relative success of the "Ebonics"-single which was something of a comeback since he had mostly been on DITC-songs after he got dropped. However, due to his style of rapping, subject-matter etc., I don't think he would have made it Jay-Z big. He could easily have had a Camron-type career though IMO (and yes, I know they were in a group together); I think that entire generation of mc's owe a lot to Big L but while you got some cool punchlines, flows and songs out of them, I don't think they were major* rap-artists and I suspect that's how L would have ended up too.

I'm a fan though and I love his flow with the syllable-thing and his often sick lyrics. And I never thought the beats on his debut were bad at all (quite dated at the time though but I've heard it was delayed for a year due to Columbia focusing on Nas in '94 and putting L on the backburner)-quite the opposite but I LOvE the DITC-beats in that era so I'm not the most unbiased; a song like "No endz, no skinz" sounded downright jurassic in 95.

*major here not meaning commercially successful but more "artistically" successful if that makes sense-he wasn't that type of guy honestly, more an X-rated, less corny Lord Finesse or something

kinda reminds me of the infatuation with Dilla after his death. cats who never messed with him started calling him an all-time great but when I was play Lifestylez Ov nobody was listening. He's in my top 50. probably in the 31-40 range somewhere.

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and you don't know at least one or two Big L verses



I don't take you seriously

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>1. What are your thoughts on Big L as an overall MC?
Dope as hell
>2. What are your thoughts on his 2 albums?
First one was very dope. Second one was cool but doesn't really compare to the first
>3. Would he have blown up in your eyes?
Maybe, I'm not sure really, the only person who did blow up from DITC was Fat Joe and he had to sell out to do that

Random comment: he is not a top 10 MC. Just isn't. Died too early and his first album, despite the fact that I love it is easily equaled in quality by other albums released during the 90s

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all the props and praises he gets are well earned

I think because he didn't have too many dance/radio songs is why
some underrated him

I was one of those kats who was following Big L. from the early days when he was dropping verses here & there on various DITC related jams, my cousin turned me on to "Devil's Son" 12inch which was still easy to find in the used vinyl bin for a few dollars.

Anyway I was already a big DITC fan so when anybody from that crew or affiliated surfaced on something I copped, but you all have to admit that before Big L. was officially a member Lord Finesse or OC were there best emcees; but Big L. was like Lord Finesse but much better and more hood than OC or Fat Joe.

Most know that when Jay-Z was out he knew that Big L. was making the same rounds as him and spitting with the fast delivery with punchlines better than him, so it was only right that both would show up to the famous Stretch Armstrong Show and spit rhymes back & forth before Jay-Z had anything out and while Big L. had a record deal already and even featured Jay on his album (and if you heard both of their verses you knew Big L. was waaayyy better than Jay and rightfully so and he was only going to get better with time).

Yeah his first album was a straight boom-bap album for NYC underground die-hards and the only single most people knew about was the "MVP" joint (which Puff & Biggie jacked the beat for later on) but after all of that he just kept making appearances on underground radio spitting freestyles and showing up on songs by other DITC members with the illest rhymes you ever heard.

So when Big L. was coming out with new material (singles/12inches) he was getting a lot of love/airplay from different djs and was getting approached by labels as well and yes Dame Dash wanted to sign him (they also was trying to sign OC at one point too but I think Jay-Z wasn't going for it cause he didn't want anybody more lyrical than him on the label).

Anyway to make a long story short, Big L. was street enough for those underground hip-hop listeners and for the ones listening to the thug stuff and the let's get cash & make it rain rappers, if you just rate Big L. on his verses & lyrics you can't deny he was a beast, was he well-rounded as Rakim, Pharoahe Monch, Big Daddy Kane, LL Cool J., etc, I don't think so but he was on the same lines as Jay-Z, Biggie, Kool G. Rap, Eminem, & so on, which is why I'll let some people slide with having Big L. in their top ten greatest.

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