1. "im not sure i care about responses from people" In response to Reply # 0
who didnt even get called out especially when you START your verse by mentioning that like, let me inject myself in the conversation about relevant rappers, when i was not even an afterthought in that conversation
18. "Kendrick called out everyone" In response to Reply # 1
If anything, the people who he actually mentioned are the only ones who shouldn't feel insulted. The NY rappers he didn't mention should be the ones taking it personally.
"Yes I see all the nummmberrs... I still root for the dreeeamerrs... I thank God for the dreeeamerrs..." - Mos
48. "RE: Kendrick called out everyone" In response to Reply # 18
...truth...and 95% of the dudes he called out are not on some battle MC type shit, so whatever whatever...The kid is nice with his, and maybe this will light a fire under brothers to really start coming with some lyrics, which the game, at least the commercial side of it, has been missing....
38. "LOL...just let it go, bro. Joell is perfectly qualified to respond. " In response to Reply # 21
>and someone relevant and involved was on the song (prodigy) >and TONY was already ringing
Don't get upset, Joell just kinda shat all over "the greatest verse of all time"
Just deal with it
K.Dot still gets TONS of props for the verse
But Joell just proved why a lot of niggas wasn't that hype off of it -- KL's verse wasn't that great, and can easily be outdone by the basic good rapper (Ortiz is better than "basic good," of course)
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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"
9. "thats the funny part" In response to Reply # 6 Tue Aug-13-13 04:34 PM by fontgangsta
>Kendrick took shots and staked claim at NY.
this west coast cat has more of a claim to KONY than ortiz ever has. which im sure burns him up, hence the quick response. i mean, no hate on ortiz or anything - i certainly dont think hes wack - but hes never done anything thats made him stand out to me.
but it's prob gonna get lost with any other response records
unless one of the big names kendrick mentioned responds or somebody really catches feelings, i don't think people will remember anything other than the original song
I love Joell but I've heard him do much better. I do think it's funny considering Kendrick basically has the lane that Joell thought he would have by signing to Aftermath.
Man, if someone feels slighted, they respond, period You think Common was relevant when Cube dissed him Or Canibus when LL dissed him
Shit don't matter in hiphop...you call out someone's name or make an outlandish statement, you can get a response from any/everyone. That's hip hop. You don't need a certain pedigree to respond...just make sure the response is ill
And this isn't even on some personal beef shit...but to say you gotta have a deal and a big following in rap to respond is crazy.
If that's the case, NOBODY should've responded to 50 ten years ago when he started dissing any and everyone
>Man, if someone feels slighted, they respond, period >You think Common was relevant when Cube dissed him >Or Canibus when LL dissed him > >Shit don't matter in hiphop...you call out someone's name or >make an outlandish statement, you can get a response from >any/everyone. That's hip hop. You don't need a certain >pedigree to respond...just make sure the response is ill > >And this isn't even on some personal beef shit...but to say >you gotta have a deal and a big following in rap to respond is >crazy. > >If that's the case, NOBODY should've responded to 50 ten years >ago when he started dissing any and everyone
absolutely
________________________________________________________________ whenever you did these things to the least of my brothers you did them to me
46. "what's really sad is you had to use pre-internet beefs as examples" In response to Reply # 31 Wed Aug-14-13 01:45 AM by DolphinTeef
the game has changed.
this verse will be forgotten once the dust settles.
unknowns and the irrelevants should opt to make better music. It will do much more for their hip-hop careers in today's climate...than e-props from forum cats...who wouldnt buy a 12"/mp3/cd of this verse even if it was released.
Lets see MCs with clout to LOSE go at KL (hint: its much more exciting)
23. "respond by making great music" In response to Reply # 0
I haven't listened to joells verse yet, so I can't speak on that, but anyone responding personally to Kendrick is already taking an L. Make great music, great albums. Step your verses up.
37. "This right here ^^" In response to Reply # 23
Truth spitting.
>I haven't listened to joells verse yet, so I can't speak on >that, but anyone responding personally to Kendrick is already >taking an L. Make great music, great albums. Step your verses >up.
54. "So.... using your talent to bring attention to yourself is an L nowadays..." In response to Reply # 23
>I haven't listened to joells verse yet, so I can't speak on >that, but anyone responding personally to Kendrick is already >taking an L. Make great music, great albums. Step your verses >up.
lol. I sure as hell didn't see a Joell Ortiz post yesterday. All I can say to Joell is make your next move your best move. As far as other people choosing to respond, they should expect diminishing returns.
61. "That's all up to Joell Ortiz in the end. " In response to Reply # 60
>>I sure as hell didn't see a Joell Ortiz post yesterday. >
Either you're so engulfed in anger that you didn't read the next line I wrote after the one you quoted or you just aren't bright enough to comprehend it. *shrugs* I can't do nothing for ya man. Have fun making another response about how no cares, lol. _________________________________________
35. "he rhyme like he wearing dishwashing gloves" In response to Reply # 0
and that beat is wack
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42. "Yeah this response really didn't end anything" In response to Reply # 36
Like I said earlier I like Joell but this verse is nothing special and will probably be forgotten about by the end of the week. I've heard Joell spit much more murderous shit than this which is what he should have done. Shit I'd have love to see all of Slaughterhouse jump on a song and shoot that shit out especially with Crooked on it you could dead all of the supposed talk of reigniting the East vs West shit.
The Wordsmith Member since Aug 13th 2002 17070 posts
Wed Aug-14-13 01:34 AM
44. "Man, hip hop has gotten soft...." In response to Reply # 0
...when a cat can't do a response track anymore because he's "too good" or "he wasn't called out" despite the fact that he's responding to a claim that indirectly goes at him. A Cali cat calls himself the "King of NY" and Joell was supposed to sit back and shut up? If this was back in the day, it would've been way more niggas going at KL for that claim.
55. "Even some hip-hop "heads" have fallen into the relevancy trap. Sad" In response to Reply # 44
>...when a cat can't do a response track anymore because he's >"too good" or "he wasn't called out" despite the fact that >he's responding to a claim that indirectly goes at him. A Cali >cat calls himself the "King of NY" and Joell was supposed to >sit back and shut up? If this was back in the day, it would've >been way more niggas going at KL for that claim.
65. "This would have been hotter if it had a few actual jabs at Kendrick" In response to Reply # 0
I like Joell's rhyming a lot but Mickey Factz actually threw a few punches so I'm more likely to go back to his response. You don't have to say anything foul, just clown the little nigga a bit, damn. It's funny because any other member of SlaughterHouse would have been jabbing, Joell stays on the "I just want people to know that I'm nice" rhyming tip. You'd never know that he's a pretty funny dude in real life and ain't likely to back down from a real life confrontation. I salute him for his integrity but I'd love to see him take the kid gloves off. _________________________________________
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