1959? Yeah. It marked the declarative year in two related but distinct fingerstyle traditions:
-The release of John Fahey's 'Blind Joe Death' in the US;
-Davey Graham's appearance on the BBC show 'Monitor' and his composition of the watershed piece 'Angi' (aka Anji and Angie).

If you've gotten this far in this post, which will naturally go wood, you know what followed.

Feel free to link up important pieces or reference important guitarists.

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I actually can't even call it.

As soon as I think Leo Kottke, my brain jumps to Bert Jansch. I counter with John Fahey and my brain jumps to John Martyn.

I will say I'm less versed on the American side of things. I have a smattering of many American artist catalogues. While I've got a fewer number of British guys' work, I have 80%-90% complete catalogues.

Where would you rank Dick Gaughan in all this? I picked up a couple things a while back and I'm just floored at how good he is.

I saw a super clean Robbie Basho album on Takoma at the used record store yesterday, but they wanted $30 for it, so I had to pass.

'choons:
"four days to go." http://bit.ly/15YTmuQ
"jacques snicket." http://bit.ly/14iU9Xs
"pushed by wind." http://bit.ly/164IZGB
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>I actually can't even call it.

nor I

>As soon as I think Leo Kottke, my brain jumps to Bert Jansch.
>I counter with John Fahey and my brain jumps to John Martyn.

>I will say I'm less versed on the American side of things. I
>have a smattering of many American artist catalogues. While
>I've got a fewer number of British guys' work, I have 80%-90%
>complete catalogues.

I'm not even close to that, at all.

>Where would you rank Dick Gaughan in all this? I

I rank Dick Gaughan as 'fucking incredible.' Did you get that version of The Cruel Brother I emailed you? (It was 5 Hand Reel, but Gaughan singing a tune they'd adapted from his solo repertoire. Incidentally, my version is up on my soundcloud page... had to do it just to get the damn song out of my head.)

> picked up a
>couple things a while back and I'm just floored at how good he
>is.

I haven't explore too far beyond A Handful of Earth, which is odd b/c I have been championing that album for 20 years.

>I saw a super clean Robbie Basho album on Takoma at the used
>record store yesterday, but they wanted $30 for it, so I had
>to pass.

Agreed

One of the things that struck me as I was thinking about the breadth of playing in the two countries is that it's a shame that more US singer-songwriters didn't incorporate really good fingerstyle into their repertoires... the British did a better job of incorporating it into both their traditional music and their 'folk-rock' or singer-songwriter material. We don't really have an American analogue for Martin Carthy, Nick Drake, John Martyn or Nic Jones, do we?

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>
>One of the things that struck me as I was thinking about the
>breadth of playing in the two countries is that it's a shame
>that more US singer-songwriters didn't incorporate really good
>fingerstyle into their repertoires... the British did a better
>job of incorporating it into both their traditional music and
>their 'folk-rock' or singer-songwriter material. We don't
>really have an American analogue for Martin Carthy, Nick
>Drake, John Martyn or Nic Jones, do we?

But, even though he inspired a generation (or two) of players, he was always more about the words than the guitar.

The more I think about this, the more I realize the big divide between Britain and America: they had folks that were alright singers and amazing guitarists (John Renbourn, for example) and we had folks that were probably aware of their shortcomings as vocalists, so they mainly concentrated on instrumentals (Will Ackerman and the like).

Course Leo Kottke made a career out of his "bad" singing. So, maybe so much for that theory.

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"pushed by wind." http://bit.ly/164IZGB
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in any way, fingerpicking or otherwise. His acoustic playing was ragged and effective, of course, but I can't think of any song where his fingerpicking left me asking how he did that.



>The more I think about this, the more I realize the big divide
>between Britain and America: they had folks that were alright
>singers and amazing guitarists (John Renbourn, for example)
>and we had folks that were probably aware of their
>shortcomings as vocalists, so they mainly concentrated on
>instrumentals (Will Ackerman and the like).

Michael Hedges was probably the best vocalist of the American fingerstylists, but even he's primarily thought of as a guitarist (with good reason).

>Course Leo Kottke made a career out of his "bad" singing. So,
>maybe so much for that theory.

Nah, I'd say Leo made a career out of his guitar playing, and his singing was a quirk that came along with it.

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The guitarists he inspired outplayed him easily.

I just cannot get into the Michael Hedges vocal stuff. There's like this disconnect between his super technical guitar playing and his wanting to be a singer/songwriter. It's just not cohesive and not good.

And I picked up some of the Kottke stuff on the Private label. It's good. Kind of lightweight, but I like it.

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>I just cannot get into the Michael Hedges vocal stuff.
>There's like this disconnect between his super technical
>guitar playing and his wanting to be a singer/songwriter.
>It's just not cohesive and not good.

that said, he's got some okay vocal tunes too - Ready Or NOt is one that I like, quirky melody. Bad lyrics though, yeah.

>And I picked up some of the Kottke stuff on the Private label.
> It's good. Kind of lightweight, but I like it.

I've heard a few of the albums... you can note the stylistic difference in his guitar playing, I think, pretty easily.

Always thought it was kinda odd that both Pepe Hush and Jack Gets Up (or was it My Father's Face?) got a comparative lot of radio airplay... they're both fairly interesting, but not exactly either primo Kottke (aside from their 'odd' aspects) or hit material.

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>The more I think about this, the more I realize the big divide
>between Britain and America: they had folks that were alright
>singers and amazing guitarists (John Renbourn, for example)
>and we had folks that were probably aware of their
>shortcomings as vocalists, so they mainly concentrated on
>instrumentals (Will Ackerman and the like).

in the liner notes to this great compilation http://www.amazon.com/Art-Fingerstyle-Guitar-Various-Artists/dp/B000000E9N (compiling stuff from Schanachie and Kicking Mule archives, mostly, I think) the writer marks the primary distinction as US guitarist's consistent use of the rolling thumb pattern borrowed from Piedmont blues and/or MS John Hurt, with the alternating bass line pattern.

According to him, the British guitarists were able to move beyond that, opening up more intricate bass patterns and fretboard action than their American counterparts.

I don't know that I completely agree with it, but there is more than a kernel of truth in it, I think, at least until you get down to the real nitty gritty.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XvjqXuGH3Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAFYKyLZgGw

and Donovan for his part was a big Bert Jansch supporter, though while not a bad fingerpicker, nowhere near Jansch. Same album this was on he recorded 'Bert's Blues,' his most overt nod to Jansch.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JFgC3Ub10E

not in the 'playing fiddle tune leads with a pick' sense, more an advanced version of the Maybelle Carter technique.

Still, great.

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if you haven't already done so. Good shit. The Pizza Tapes is basically a home recording of the three of them fucking around on acoustic guitar and mandolin, playing covers of mostly old standards. Cool shit though.

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into a "mandatory listening" post, as I'm admittedly deficient in this area (on both sides of the Atlantic, lol) - I know names but don't know the actual music very well

Make me a list!!

((As a mostly unrelated aside, I've been listening to a lot of Doc Watson lately, whose stripped down guitar work I really admire - actually encouraged me to take out the acoustic and play around a bit last week. Any favs akin to the Doc?))

-thebigfunk

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But you seem to know that already!

Ali'll try to link a few up tomorrow.

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Davey Graham: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n8cxvzol3E

Bert Jansch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqjUWJtH88c

S&G: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DboCBmjuBxg (primarily important as a gateway introduction for mainstream fans to the idea of guitar instrumentals of the fingerpicking sort, but also showcases Paul's skill as guitarist, which is generally underrated, and implies how his time in England exposed to Jansch & co. affected his ear for solo accompaniment)

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but may not have thought of in this context... not by guitarists generally thought of within this continuum we're talking about, but important because when rock fans got around to hearing fingerstyle, it gave them a baseline for comfort/recognition and helped open a lot of doors. Both have often been covered by fingerstylists, of course:

1. Embryonic Journey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IzoiqDaG4A - Jorma was mainly celebrated for his blues fingerpicking (outside of his dazzling lead electric work), but his first dabble into this style is also one of his most beautiful. (Not quite as important is 'Mann's Fate,' the closer from the Hot Tuna debut record: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ0onxQIY_w)

2. Little Martha: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1PiHsS8LP8 - you don't hear a lot of Duane playing acoustic, and this beautiful song always makes it clear that that is a shame.

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John Fahey: hard to name a track from him that's particularly important. He never sold a ton of records or got radio airplay or any of that. THat said:

Desperate Man Blues (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQnPJqeH80I)shows traditional old-time and blues styles as his springboard (you'll recognize it as John Hardy)

and

Dances of the Ihhabitants of the Invisible City of Bladensburg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEhpk7i_1w4) can show you where he took it, mixing in Hawai'ian and 'raga' elements (in quotes b/c it's obviously not authentic raga by any stretch)


Leo Kottke: important in part b/c his first album on Takoma sold an amazing 500,000 copies, and he was the first fingerstylist signed to a major.

Watermelon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc4Ow6Q9Wf4

Cripple Creek: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh4xNFl521s (fantastic rhythm section)

I Yell At Traffic - from his post-tendonitis period, exemplifying a more discordant approach and different picking style: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUE_vdAyt0Y

Three Quarter North - imagine a day when a young l_d could see this on VH1 and immediately run out to look for Leo Kottke records at the mall's Wee Three Records: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otY7bNR9nCM - the mellower side of his Private Music years, cheesy keyboards and all

and this little nugget I've posted up before: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_5m4lomm4Y - just, friggin' WOW. And that's just hanging out in the dressing room.



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Stefan Grossman - started out with the Even Dozens Jug Band in Greenwich Village scene, early '60s, never made it big but had a big contribution to fingerstyle (and old-time and bluegrass) by starting Kicking Mule records. Really used rag playing as the foundation of his style... most vids online are teaching vids or recent concert appearances, but here's one where he's just jamming a rag: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMICKJQMldA

Dave Evans: Stagefright - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqTLkgImAdU *edit* - Dave Evans is British! whoops

Duck Baker is incredibly versatile, playing as much jazz as folk from both sides of the Atlantic:
Si Beag Si Mhor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PfuoI7LIfA
Sweet Georgia Brown: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4Xp11371UY

Peter Lang is another Takoma guy and as such is along the American Primitive line, a bit more floral and exuberant than Fahey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxn9FLWX8dI

Will Ackerman was the guy behind Windham Hill. I've learned more about him from Austin than from his records, though. His debt to Takoma is occasionally obvious:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSeSJwVG3Go

but more frequently the Windham Hill aesthetic is what you get from him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pZc9ODSvZM (skip to about th 2:00 mark)

and then there's Michael Hedges. You got a clip of him jamming with Kottke, but unleashed, he was really something. I regret that I never got to see him in concert. Other guys since have taken his tapping thing and run with it, but he was the original and the complete package.

Aerial Boundaries: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLXBABH2JuY

Because It's THere: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN3439l4HR0

The Double Planet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsyfiOgAmhg

The Rootwitch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XECSOlD06jc

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I think you're building me a perfect playlist for part of the trip - keep 'em coming as much as you want.

As I thought, a lot of these names I know, but their work I'm less familiar with - only real exceptions there are Fahey and Kottke. You were the one who called my attention to Ackerman once long ago (I think he played backup on that Frank Tedesso record I really liked, but I could be wrong).

But yeah, I'll check some of this out a bit later tonight for sure - thanks for taking the time to do this.

-thebigfunk

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bKOzAQibzA

and Sandy Bull: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bKOzAQibzA

and Alex DeGrassi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRzH8QWHsTY&list=PL1A8743699E17D7BE

and Led Kaapana (I think you can roll slack key into this fairly easily): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyiHaSvfJCI (Led is also JohnBook's uncle!)

and the incredibly inventive and ethnomusicological Bob Brozman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX--sM5G52U


and then you can get guys more associated with folk, like this favorite of mine from Dave Van Ronk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngFUyhuF31U

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He just got more mellow as he went along, but It Takes a Year is a really good balance between the moodier stuff and the just straight pickin' that he shied away from on later albums.

I'd just like to drop mention of Tom Rush's 'Rockport Sunday': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqRG8WTQ8QY#t=29m42s

A rare instrumental, but a good one.

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"four days to go." http://bit.ly/15YTmuQ
"jacques snicket." http://bit.ly/14iU9Xs
"pushed by wind." http://bit.ly/164IZGB
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>I'd just like to drop mention of Tom Rush's 'Rockport Sunday':
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqRG8WTQ8QY#t=29m42s
>
>A rare instrumental, but a good one.

for me, nothing still beats Mole's Moan, which sadly does not seem to be linked up in Rush's version on youtube. I can email copies to anyone interested...

Anyhow, the attraction to Mole's Moan isn't just that it's awesome. It was also the theme song for Gene Shay's folk radio show, a staple and impetus to my development as a fan of folk and acoustic music in my teens and 20s. I liked it enough that at about age 15 I called the station and asked what the damn song was since they never announced it, just talked over it, and went out and bought the CD.

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here's one that is apparently a definitive Sandy Bull track , for the next time you have 21:56 handy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUgj94xGS3g

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>Watermelon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc4Ow6Q9Wf4

...this is my jam. ol boy snaps a string and doesn't miss a beat,lol.

>((As a mostly unrelated aside, I've been listening to a lot of
>Doc Watson lately, whose stripped down guitar work I really
>admire - actually encouraged me to take out the acoustic and
>play around a bit last week. Any favs akin to the Doc?))

1. Norman Blake - has played with everyone but never been a big star in his own right. He is, however, awesome, and has that same post-old-time but not quite bluegrass vibe Doc does. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYMEfrxJLho

2. Mike Cross - fantastic performer, hilarious guy, same vibe. Ignore the corny intro to this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f92GChqxjyw which would actually be quite at home in the fingerpicking main body of this post.

2.5 would be David Bromberg - did you ever check any of his records out? Naturally this would only apply to his acoustic solo/small group stuff, but he definitely worshipped at DOc's altar.

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and I will say there are plenty of Irish guitarists that are phenomenal and worthy of consideration as outstanding guitarists, but they typically do not play fingerstyle so much as a modified flatpick. Arty McGlynn & Paul Brady (I mean, jeeze: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzE439U5iMI) foremost among them... but yes, we're discounting them.

Also as listening, note that I think you'll be able to hear some of what I reference above with the different approach to the right-hand thumb. Also, Austin's point as noted above that these will show a lot of g/v performances with incredible picking and... acquired taste, maybe, singing as opposed to just guitar instrumentals.

Anyhow, you've had an introduction to Davey Graham, who was very much the English John Fahey, even incorporating many of the same international influences Fahey did. He's also, for guitar geeks, notably the chief architect of the modern use of DADGAD tuning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9XkWbKBs80

Bert Jansch, I think you're familiar, but he was the first of Graham's major followers to blow people away with his guitar playing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5Gcu0Sv6lk

Martin Carthy is another whose playing was par excellence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_zBI5KmQcU

Nic Jones... ah, Nic Jones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM5eHS527V8

Nick Drake, I don't need to link anything up

Richard Thompson, probably the same, but just in case, here's a lesser known song from his pulled live album 'Small Town Romance': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXDdpduNJU8 - Austin, I know you don't like his voice, but the guitar in this should drive you bonkers, as should the litle dittty he plays first. Hard to believe he was barely thirty at this point. I feel so old.

Martin Simpson (though somewhat out of the time frame of this conversation, he's stylistically very much of it): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL3b0OL9UPM

John Renbourn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_1LyoVC3tA, god how beautiful, I know I'll forever be an amateur watching & listening to & clumsily aping that tone and fluidity

Renbourn & Jansch together: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2bfPExtAfw

and I think you're familiar with their work together in Pentangle too... couldn't find a link for my favorite guitar picking pyrotechnic Pentangle piece, Three Part Thing.

Dick Gaughan, whom Austin referenced above: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ7oYCx6tBw

I might think of a few others, but I'm pretty confident that's a better than decent starter kit.

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from Europe, we've got

Pierre Bensusan, who is sort of like a transitional figure between the UK guys and Michael Hedges:
more Celtic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzU98dg8laY
more pre-Hedges: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyPomYI6W_0


Peter Finger, from Germany:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZntrQyHftiY


Leo Wijnkamp, Jr, from Denmark or Holland, can't quite remember
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqhmbWznmBc


more recent guys:

Erik Mongrain: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqhmbWznmBc (I think I actually learned about this guy ages ago on here, from Aja)

Jon Gomm (who i just learned about the other day via some of the fingerstylists on Soundcloud): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY7GnAq6Znw


Andy McKee (whom I'd actually never heard of until he just turned up in a bunch of searches): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddn4MGaS3N4


and a bunch of other guys I've never heard of.

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but I just did that

nick drake is like one of my favorite artists ever. any genre.

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but if you love nick drake and haven't listened to John Martyn, you're doing yourself a disservice

(LOL at me not even putting John Martyn in the UK section above... vast oversight, I mean http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOi_wxypeGc, don't shoot me Austin!)

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Because his fingerstyle was second only to maybe Leo Kottke in those days, but he played with the Echoplex. And, when he did, he was subsequently a major influence about. . . oh, we'll just say a decade ahead of his time.

I definitely consider him the best of the UK folks of that generation.

Kosa, you would be doing yourself a huge favor to check out his floatier tunes. Some of the sounds he conjured out of his (acoustic!) guitar in 1976 predict any number of people from Vini Reilly to Robin Guthrie to Kevin Shields to Neil Halstead.

'choons:
"four days to go." http://bit.ly/15YTmuQ
"jacques snicket." http://bit.ly/14iU9Xs
"pushed by wind." http://bit.ly/164IZGB
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I've only heard solid air and I don't really know where to go next is his discog, what would you recommend?

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Dan will probably say Bless the Weather is his finest (and it is a fantastic album, to be sure), but Inside Out is visionary.

'choons:
"honesty blush 2.0" http://bit.ly/13BGbya
"moira 2.0." http://bit.ly/1cmJiCH
"jacques snicket." http://bit.ly/14iU9Xs
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solid air.

great stuff

I should prob check out more of his shit

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https://93millionmilesabove.blogspot.com/
https://rateyourmusic.com/~Kosa12

but I will say he's opened up my ears a bit to the later stuff.

As far as this post goes, there is much of a concert from 1978 on youtube (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X5qDeK3siw for starters) that really exemplifies what Austin is talking about and makes his fingerpicking prowess very visible despite all the effects.

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i definitely need to further explore his catalogue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t3D3YizqCw

one of my all time favorite love songs

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEjsWzynu3M
...from the over looked masterpiece "The Thing At The Nursery Room Window"

and he really looks like Dom Delouise a good bit. Pete's also putting out some good snark in the comments section.

I don't have any of his albums (nor any albums by most of the guys I'm referencing, for that matter), just a few pieces here & there.

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if i can make a suggestion...Glenn Jones. his "The Wanting" album is basically how i stumbled across primitivism. he dropped a new record "My Garden State" a couple months ago too and is probably my aoty so far. i do kinda prefer his banjo songs over his guitar but both are without question equally fantastic technically.
thanks lonesome_d,t reynolds and austin..this thread has been a wealth of knowledge for me.

>if i can make a suggestion...Glenn Jones. his "The Wanting"
>album is basically how i stumbled across primitivism. he
>dropped a new record "My Garden State" a couple months ago too
>and is probably my aoty so far. i do kinda prefer his banjo
>songs over his guitar but both are without question equally
>fantastic technically.

Hmm, the inclusion of both is interesting.

Another modern guy that I didn't think of is M. Ward - when I first heard him a decade ago, his debt to Fahey & co. was very clear to me on his more contemplative fingerpicking pieces. But it seems as he's gotten more popular that people have gravitated more to his 'indie rock' material. No idea if he still fingerpicks any pieces on his records.

>thanks lonesome_d,t reynolds and austin..this thread has been
>a wealth of knowledge for me.

Always glad to hear that! I don't honestly have a huge collection of this stuff, just bits and pieces of discographies, as much as I like it. But it's been on the brain as a few fingerstylists have gotten my attention on Soundcloud recently and all are excellent:
Tompkins Square Records seems to devote a good bit of their energy to the style and its origins:
https://soundcloud.com/tompkinssquare/country-of-illusion-by-william
https://soundcloud.com/tompkinssquare/pearly-dew-by-lena-hughes

Gratton: https://soundcloud.com/gratton - just let his page play, he's great and very Kottke inspired (incl a cover or two)

James Bartholomew: https://soundcloud.com/brokenstrings95 - seems to do a lot of covers/arrangements, but is wicked talented and his originals are good.

Joe Fusco: https://soundcloud.com/joe-fusco-acoustic-guitar

Fossil60: https://soundcloud.com/fossil60 - also an incredibly nice guy, drop him a line if you visit his page. Seems to be doing more bluesy work recently but dig through his page for the fingerstyle/primitive stuff (like https://soundcloud.com/fossil60/going-to-st-albans), it's worth it.

Renaux: the most 'primitive' out of these non-pros, he's awesome - https://soundcloud.com/renault1

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