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"the best of rick rubin"


          

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RE: the best of rick rubin
Jul 10th 2013
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u don't know what a producer is
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RE: u don't know what a producer is
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      oh we name dropping now?
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           RE: oh we name dropping now?
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                RE: oh we name dropping now?
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                     RE: oh we name dropping now?
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RE: the best of rick rubin
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      RE: the best of rick rubin
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      he didnt make that beat
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           so many so called music heads don't get this
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           RE: so many so called music heads don't get this
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           RE: he didnt make that beat
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                oh...i see where this is going
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                     .
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                          Yeah rick didnt produce king of rock
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      I just wanna know why he gets credited
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RE: http://s.pixogs.com/image/R-313758-1175266217.jpeg
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      DAM NIGGA!! WTF you want a fkn Scooby Snack??
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           RE: DAM NIGGA!! WTF you want a fkn Scooby Snack??
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                bwahahahaha....nephew you think i wont call you bitchmade if i see u?
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                     RE: bwahahahaha....nephew you think i wont call you bitchmade if i see u...
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                          nephew i know all about what larry smith has done
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DMC speaks (he was there... says RIck gets all the credit)
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RE: DMC speaks (he was there... says RIck gets all the credit)
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      outta all red hot chili peppers great tracks
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           I would've selected "Breaking The Girl" or "Sikamikanico" n/m
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"then orange krush became amazed at me
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so LARRY put me inside his cadillac...
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my man Larry Lar my names DJ Run
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howardlloyd
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1. "RE: the best of rick rubin"
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Again....

Larry Smith produced the KING of Rock...

the best hip hop song on the list

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2. "u don't know what a producer is"
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4. "RE: u don't know what a producer is"
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my 2nd cousin is Nile Rodgers lol

how much u wanna bet rick rubin had nothin to do with king of rock?

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6. "oh we name dropping now?"
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i am related to friends with and a fan of tons of greats......rick rubin is an amazing exec producer in the TRUEST sense of the word

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12. "RE: oh we name dropping now?"
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so an executive producer = a producer now?

I only name dropped because you made such an asinine statement. talking bout I don't know what a producer is....

I have production credits lol

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14. "RE: oh we name dropping now?"
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>I have production credits lol


so do i and songwriting credits, sir

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howardlloyd
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17. "RE: oh we name dropping now?"
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might be relevant if I said you didn't know what a songwriter was

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3. "RE: the best of rick rubin"
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Wed Jul-10-13 11:35 AM by murph71

          

>Again....
>
>Larry Smith produced the KING of Rock...
>
>the best hip hop song on the list


Those songs off of LL's Radio (the first Def Jam album) r no fluff though....Neither are the songs off of Raising Hell or Licensed to Ill...

I get that some people feel Rubin gets too much credit in the hip-hop arena, judging from that much-heated thread that popped off...But people need to chill with going overboard with trying to make Rubin out to be just some guy that just happened to be there....The man rode shotgun with Russell in establishing hip-hop into a mainstream phenomenon...They both put in work at Def Jam....Rubin is a made man...

It's quite possible to call Rubin one of the production GOATs in the hip hop arena and give major props to Larry Smith as one of the greatest pre-golden age producers in hip-hop history (and arguably even the best), without diminishing one or the other...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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5. "RE: the best of rick rubin"
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all I said was he didn't produce king of rock?

humor ms. fire and let her know please. since I don't know what a producer is lol

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7. "he didnt make that beat"
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does not equal he didnt produce it

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8. "so many so called music heads don't get this"
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>does not equal he didnt produce it


two words: quincy jones

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11. "RE: so many so called music heads don't get this"
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Wed Jul-10-13 03:33 PM by howardlloyd

  

          

>>does not equal he didnt produce it
>
>
>two words: quincy jones
>
>the end

Rick rubin wasnt even in the studio for the king of rock.

is it the 1st song on the track list? lol

and it's the name of the tape lol

that ain't funny?

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9. "RE: he didnt make that beat"
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smfh

well go look at the back of the run dmc record and see who produced it.

go watch run dmc induction speech and DMC talking about Larry Smith doing the WHOLE first two albums...

who was Eddie Martinez down with??

lol. clownz

proving my point. white dudes get all the credit and the information is out there for all to see

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10. "oh...i see where this is going "
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>
>proving my point. white dudes get all the credit and the
>information is out there for all to see

smh

  

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13. "."
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_Rock

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15. "Yeah rick didnt produce king of rock"
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LOL at this sudden praise for Rick
When dude wanted NO parts of hip hop for a long time
Not dismissing his legacy because he is a legend
The problem is folks writing off Larry Smith/Orange Krush's legacy
HE was doing rock before Rubin came into the fold

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18. "I just wanna know why he gets credited"
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for other people's work. that nobody ever even SAID he did.

smmfh

the tape is called the king of rock... the 1st song is King of rock

why kinda shenanigans is this? c'mon murph

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16. "http://s.pixogs.com/image/R-313758-1175266217.jpeg"
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While Rubin did do a few things on the KING OF ROCK *album*, it was limited to mixing and a bit of guitar. There was a very clear distinction between Rick Rubin's duties at Def Jam and what he did with Run-DMC. By the time Rubin started doing tracks for Run-DMC, he was also producing Slayer.

That also coincided with working with Public Enemy, who already had their set of producers (including Chuck D., a/k/a "Carl Ryder"). Rubin's role with P.E. was "executive producer", and in many ways, that helped to divide the roles on who did what on a hip-hop album. Rubin's "executive producer" credit is equal to what some producers in other genres do, and that is to "oversee" a project. Sometimes, it's the engineer and/or co-producers who may do the actual work on the tapes or files, while the producer will run it through, tweak a few things, and go "this will pass".

Also in hip-hop, there can sometimes be a clear distinction between the producer and the person who built the beat, or created the instrumentation. Diddy is a perfect example of someone who had taken credit, but he had ghost producers and beat makers. We now know this to be true with Kanye West as well, which is why the publishing in his songs have 10 to 15 people deep. With Public Enemy, you had Chuck D., Bill Stephney, Hank & Keith Boxley (Shocklee) handling the core of what you hear. They were and are the true producers and beatmakers.

That's not saying Rubin didn't do a damn thing in his productions, he did. First LL album: Rubin. Second LL album: you must add in people like Rod Hui, Jay Henry, Mark Mandelbaum, Chuck Valle, and Steve Ett. Russell Simmons played the role of "executive producer" on
BIGGER AND DEFFER.

Even with The Cult, Red Hot Chili Peppers, and The Dixie Chicks, you can arguably say that Rubin was the man who wanted to capture a "vibe". In other genres, that is exactly what a producer does, in the old school "traditional" sense. Ever wondered why there weren't any producers credited on jazz albums on Impulse? RVG. He considered himself the engineer, not a producer, yet it was he who captured the "vibe" and "essence" of everything that was going on in that New Jersey room. In terms of The Beatles, that's not to say that Sir George Martin didn't do anything, because he did. He was the keen ear, and arguably gave The Beatles a healthy slice of musicality that the group did not start out with. Yet Martin would be nothing with out Norman Smith, Geoff Emerick, Ken Townshend, Chris Thomas and so many others.

Hell, Trevor Horn, one of the greatest producers ever. The core of some of his best productions in the first half of the 1980's was due to his production "theam": Jonathan Jeczalik, Anne Dudley, and Gary Langan. These three people were the Art Of Noise, who made "Buffalo Gals", ABC's "The Look Of Love", "Beat Box", "Owner Of A Lonely Heart", "Leave It", "Close (To The Edit)", and "Moments In Love". In essence, Horn's participation seems minimal but he was the overseer, the ear that was able to edit where his team could not.

My point is, it's great to have someone who can be a producer, be it in the traditional sense of an "overseer", or someone who actually had a hand in creating the beat and developed the sound and vibe of a song from start to finish. However, the best producers will always have a team of people, even if it means two or three assistants, the "outside ears" that help make the producer who he is. As a former news producer, it's equal to someone like me whose role was to butter up the image of the news anchor. We are the ones selecting, writing, and positioning the stories, but it's the anchor who takes all the glory and the blame. The anchor will get the attention, everyone below him will not. That is exactly how it is in music, at least in the U.S. Meanwhile, you could carry this conversation on to England and I'm certain they'll tell you not only who came up with the snares, but also who selected the reverb and how far the ambient mic was before they decided to use an outdated plug-in.





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19. "RE: http://s.pixogs.com/image/R-313758-1175266217.jpeg"
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the image says it all

so I guess. I was right about everything I said. fire was wrong about everything she said in response to me lol

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24. "DAM NIGGA!! WTF you want a fkn Scooby Snack??"
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>the image says it all
>
>so I guess. I was right about everything I said. fire was
>wrong about everything she said in response to me lol




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25. "RE: DAM NIGGA!! WTF you want a fkn Scooby Snack??"
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Thu Jul-11-13 03:20 PM by howardlloyd

  

          

>>the image says it all
>>
>>so I guess. I was right about everything I said. fire was
>>wrong about everything she said in response to me lol
>
>
>
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>yall niggas be bitchmade like a mug...

says a guy from the safety of his desk

now ... if u read the convo. shorty talking bout I don't know what a producer is cuz I said Larry smith produced it. going hard and he wrong as two left feet. so yeah I'm doing the TD dance cuz I love when know it alls get proven to be know nothings

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26. "bwahahahaha....nephew you think i wont call you bitchmade if i see u?"
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Thu Jul-11-13 03:26 PM by LAbeathustla

  

          


>
>says a guy from the safety of his desk


FOH with this ethuggery nephew.... you cant go from bitchmade to ethug..

chill the fuck out..and be content with being "right"


edit: and for the record she wasnt all the way wrong... larry smith did the leg work but best believe he consulted rubin for some shit...credited or not


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27. "RE: bwahahahaha....nephew you think i wont call you bitchmade if i see u..."
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Thu Jul-11-13 03:54 PM by howardlloyd

  

          

>
>>
>>says a guy from the safety of his desk
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>FOH with this ethuggery nephew.... you cant go from bitchmade
>to ethug..
>
>chill the fuck out..and be content with being "right"
>
>
>edit: and for the record she wasnt all the way wrong... larry
>smith did the leg work but best believe he consulted rubin for
>some shit...credited or not
>

that was e-thuggery? i called you out your name or made a threat?

i was pointing out that you calling a grown man bitchmade from the safety of your desk... is in fact bitchmade. e thuggery??? howard lloyd is my name! lol no alias homey

but i dont think you are that smart...

and why would larry smith have to consult rick rubin? you fucks are retarded. he produced r&b hits and was a studio musician/producer prior to hip hop...

why do i even care? lol. stay ignorant and thinking the white mans ice is colder
the RECORD label (the sticker on the actual record not the company) doesnt have ricks name. DMC says it was all larry

and u still here saying the white boy was there lol

stupid niggas

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30. "nephew i know all about what larry smith has done"
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and was prolly ,,no definitely listening to that shit before you..but yeah..i'm let you cook in here

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20. "DMC speaks (he was there... says RIck gets all the credit)"
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DMC SAYS 'LARRY SMITH'S MUSICAL ARSENAL EQUALS DR. DRE'S'
Posted April 14, 2010
Who is Larry Smith? Since the start of VIBE’s Greatest Hip Hop Producers of All-Time tournament that’s been one of the most frequently asked questions by fans not familiar with the man who has been cited as rap’s first studio superstar.

But Run-D.M.C.'s Darryl “DMC” McDaniels says Smith more than deserves the nod.

“I want the world to know when you talk about the best producers like Jam Master Jay, DJ Premier, Swizz Beatz, and Dr. Dre, you have to add Larry Smith,” DMC tells VIBE. “I feel so bad because when Run-D.M.C. got inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame I wanted to take that platform to mention Larry. Because there would be no hip-hop as we know it today if it wasn’t for Larry Smith.”

Indeed, Smith’s contributions to hip-hop are truly impressive when you figure that his mammoth beats, rocking guitars, and punchy synthesizer sound was competing with the non-rap dominating likes of Michael Jackson, Prince and Madonna. Among the former Orange Crush bassist’s landmark works: Run-D.M.C.’s “Sucker MC’s,” “It’s Like That,” “Hard Times,” King of Rock,” and “Rock Box” as well as Whodini’s “5 Minutes Of Funk,” “The Freaks Come Out At Night,” “One Love” and “Friends.”

“He did both of Run-D.M.C.’s first two albums (Run-D.M.C., King of Rock), and he did Whodini’s biggest singles… Come on!” DMC exclaims. “Larry Smith’s musical arsenal equals Dr. Dre's. I know Jermaine Dupri knows that because he was touring with Whodini in those days.”

Unfortunately, in recent years, Smith has had to battle debilitating health issues. “He had a stroke, but he’s still with us,” DMC says of Smith’s current state. “Physically, it’s not all good. But spiritually, historically and mentally, he can express himself through his music. Think about the body of work that he did. I think Larry’s notoriety gets lost because of Rick Rubin. People still think that Rick produced the first two Run-D.M.C. albums. But there would be no Raising Hell without those first two albums.”

As for DMC, the legendary MC is set to release his second solo album The Origins Of Block Music, due out this summer. “This is a more of rock-centered album,” DMC says of the upcoming release. “I have a lot of live instrumentation on it, but I still had to make three hip hop joints because people still want that “I’ll cut the head off the devil and I’ll throw it at you” DMC music too.”—Keith Murphy

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21. "RE: DMC speaks (he was there... says RIck gets all the credit)"
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Rick does fuck all. Gets others to do the work. A lucky bum.

  

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22. "outta all red hot chili peppers great tracks"
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they chose pea? !

  

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28. ""then orange krush became amazed at me"
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29. "so LARRY put me inside his cadillac... "
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31. "my man Larry Lar my names DJ Run"
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