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MME
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"New Pixies: "Bagboy" (YT)"


  

          

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/videos/pixies-release-bagboy-first-new-song-in-nine-years-20130628

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no Kim no deal
Jun 28th 2013
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RE: Try listening to the whole song.
Jun 28th 2013
2
no idea what the fuck Charles is talking about here but it doesnt matter
Jun 28th 2013
3
RE: I take the former statement back:
Jun 29th 2013
4
NO KIM NO DEAL LOL
Jun 29th 2013
5
      Kim Deal was not that much of a, um, deal...
Jun 29th 2013
6
           Fuck you and everything you stand for lol
Jun 29th 2013
7
           Both Black Francis and Joey Santiago were more important...
Jun 29th 2013
8
                its not a reunion without Deal they got a man to impersonate her
Jun 30th 2013
10
                     While the track is mediocre, you're coming across as an absolute poseur.
Jun 30th 2013
11
                          Nah, he's absolutely right
Jun 30th 2013
12
                          RE: Heard someone say today, "For me, Kim IS the Pixies."
Jun 30th 2013
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                               while thats ridiculous, so is pretending shes irrelevant to the equation
Jul 02nd 2013
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                                    The lesson hate women (c) fire
Jul 02nd 2013
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           RE: I understand old school fans have an attachment. . .
Jun 29th 2013
9
           she kinda is tho,more than Michael Anthony-in-VH & thats sayin something
Jul 02nd 2013
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                yep she got bigger solo them him and that first Breeders album
Jul 02nd 2013
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What's the worst that could happen?
Jun 30th 2013
13
Very happy that Kim Shattuck is Kim Deal's replacement
Jul 02nd 2013
19
welp, they roped me in, any LA OKPs hitting their September run?
Jul 25th 2013
20

Menphyel7
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1. "no Kim no deal"
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Austin
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2. "RE: Try listening to the whole song."
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Kim's clearly on it.

And it's really good.

The plot thickens.

'choons:
"jacques snicket." http://bit.ly/14iU9Xs
"pushed by wind." http://bit.ly/164IZGB
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3. "no idea what the fuck Charles is talking about here but it doesnt matter"
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because this actually sounds like a good Pixies song.

  

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Austin
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4. "RE: I take the former statement back:"
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Kim's not on it: http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2013/06/28/download-pixies-new-song-bagboy/

The chorus riff is fantastic, but this is a pretty crappy move on Francis' part.

'choons:
"jacques snicket." http://bit.ly/14iU9Xs
"pushed by wind." http://bit.ly/164IZGB
"It is, I think, an indisputable fact that Americans are, as Americans, the most self-conscious people in the world."
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5. "NO KIM NO DEAL LOL"
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Jakob Hellberg
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Sat Jun-29-13 06:41 PM

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6. "Kim Deal was not that much of a, um, deal..."
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Sat Jun-29-13 06:42 PM by Jakob Hellberg

          

She only wrote/sung a small handful of songs and while I actually find her bassplaying vERY distinct and a huge part of their sound, it's not like it's some rocket science; it was an "idea"-approach to bassplaying, ''anyone'' can do that shit.

Anyway, I haven't heard the song yet but I'm looking forward to checking it out, I'm too busy playing King Crimson and Curtis Mayfield this week...

  

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7. "Fuck you and everything you stand for lol"
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Sat Jun-29-13 06:44 PM by Menphyel7

  

          

NO Kim no Pixies...If Kim ain't there it ain't no Pixies call that shit something else.

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Jakob Hellberg
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8. "Both Black Francis and Joey Santiago were more important..."
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I dig Kim Deal and the Breeders as muchc as the next man but still, she was not THAT important...

Of course, I'm not really a fan of bands reuniting without original members but it's not like Thin Lizzy without Phil Lynott ot even Floyd without Waters (the latter a lesser problem than it seemed; waters partially ruined that band and was a lousy musician. Still, it was *morally* wrong to do it without him. Pixies without Deal is really not on that level)...

  

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10. "its not a reunion without Deal they got a man to impersonate her"
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get this shit all the way the fuck out of here

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11. "While the track is mediocre, you're coming across as an absolute poseur."
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12. "Nah, he's absolutely right"
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14. "RE: Heard someone say today, "For me, Kim IS the Pixies.""
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I stopped listening after that.

Because come on.

'choons:
"jacques snicket." http://bit.ly/14iU9Xs
"pushed by wind." http://bit.ly/164IZGB
"It is, I think, an indisputable fact that Americans are, as Americans, the most self-conscious people in the world."
—Henry James
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15. "while thats ridiculous, so is pretending shes irrelevant to the equation"
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this ain't D'Arcy in the Pumpkins.

  

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16. "The lesson hate women (c) fire"
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9. "RE: I understand old school fans have an attachment. . ."
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. . .to the band and how they remember them.

And I think it's pretty crap of Francis to pull this soundalike shit (even if this is a one-off done out of spite).

But I'm glad you put that out there, Jakob.

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"jacques snicket." http://bit.ly/14iU9Xs
"pushed by wind." http://bit.ly/164IZGB
"It is, I think, an indisputable fact that Americans are, as Americans, the most self-conscious people in the world."
—Henry James
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17. "she kinda is tho,more than Michael Anthony-in-VH & thats sayin something"
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I hate when bandleaders & fans want to dismiss still-breathing members over petty shit & try to convince us they never really mattered in the first place.

>She only wrote/sung a small handful of songs and while I
>actually find her bassplaying vERY distinct and a huge part of
>their sound, it's not like it's some rocket science; it was an
>"idea"-approach to bassplaying, ''anyone'' can do that shit.
>
>Anyway, I haven't heard the song yet but I'm looking forward
>to checking it out, I'm too busy playing King Crimson and
>Curtis Mayfield this week...

It's not an accident that many of The Pixies most popular songs (Where Is My Mind, Gigantic, Here Comes Your Man, Monkey Gone To Heaven) feature at least in part a Kim Deal vocal, in addition to her being the band's bassist her voice was the perfect solvent to help soften sometimes caustic/shrill whiny sound of Black Francis.

That's also probably why even though Frank Black was a more prolific writer he never had a record that made the impact of the second Breeders' second album.

In fact, I'm half-convinced he picked this exact year to reunite because he was getting jealous about Kim's platinum post-Pixies album after he fired the band getting the '20th Anniversary Reissue/Tour' victory lap & so all the sudden he decides that he's going to actually try to resurrect the Pixies in earnest in the middle of that to force her hand.

That seems like exactly the type of petty, shitty, narcissistic dickhead maneuver that he's been known to pull over the years.

And it's fucking lame.

That being said, the song sounds okay.

  

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18. "yep she got bigger solo them him and that first Breeders album"
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Tue Jul-02-13 01:33 PM by Menphyel7

  

          

is the shit and seen as a classic to some..

Kurt Cobain say that album is one of the biggest influences on him.

yea she said she was happy just touring the back catalog and didn't want to record any new music...Now with the Breeders anniversary hes tryin to force her hand and she said no

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13. "What's the worst that could happen?"
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That it's not as good as "Doolittle"?

It's alright. A promising step. Hopefully there will be more following this. Black Francis did a solo show in Nashville this May where he played a new composition. Perhaps there is a Pixies (or 3/4ths) version of that coming.

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19. "Very happy that Kim Shattuck is Kim Deal's replacement"
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Should be great.


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20. "welp, they roped me in, any LA OKPs hitting their September run?"
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I got an email from the fan club (I didn't even know I was a member of the Pixies Fan Club but I'll be that) for the presale today, took the Thursday 9/12 show at The Mayan downtown.

Never been there & never actually seen The Pixies.

Kim not being there is borderline heartbreaking but fuck it I still expect to be entertained & they made to easy to click a few things to grab a pair just to be safe.

  

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