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"Complex Mag Ranks Kanye's Albums (link)"
Thu Jun-20-13 02:40 PM by Nick Has a Problem..

  

          

Ranking Ye's albums from worst to best and at #7 just SMFH

http://www.complex.com/music/2013/06/ranking-kanye-wests-albums-from-best-to-worst/#galleryS

8. Cruel Summer

The best teams are said to be greater than the sum of their parts. Cruel Summer actually feels lesser than the sum of its parts. Released on September 14, just six days before the end of Summer 2012, the G.O.O.D. Music collective album is widely considered a flop, despite the fact that it boasts two smash hit singles in "Mercy" and "Clique," two legitimate bangers in "Cold" and "New God Flow" as well as an all-star remix to Chief Keef's massive "I Don't Like." Cruel Summer's undoing is its grandiosity, from the R. Kelly album opener to that unbearable "Sin City" spoken word interlude. It also suffers from lack of focus. Who exactly is part of the G.O.O.D. Music crew? One of the most prominently featured artists on the album, 2 Chainz, is not. Nor are Ma$e, Ghostface, Raekwon, Marsha Ambrosius. You know who is a part of the crew? Kanye West. Guess who we wish was on the album more? —Rob Kenner

7. Late Registration

Generally, people who love Late Registration more than any other Kanye album rank Graduation at the opposite end of the list. People who think Graduation is peak-Kanye think Late Registration is the weakest of the solo releases. But the first time I heard Late Registration, I heard the Kanye West album I'd wanted to hear since before College Dropout arrived: A lush, beautiful hip-hop chamber pop album, chock full of brilliant hooks and train-stopping lines that could vacillate from hilarious ("Gold Digger") to serious ("Diamonds") to poignant ("Heard 'Em Say") and double-back again, into expertly distilled Kanye braggadocio.

The best part about revisiting Late Registration—an album that ages beautifully, and doesn't date itself at every possible juncture (hello, Graduation, with your Daft Punk and your Chris Martin and your painful Weezy verse)—being reminded of all the album's contributors that everyone often forgets. Sure, you've got Adam Levine doing the opening hook, Jay-Z throwing up the Roc, and Jamie Foxx doing his Ray Charles schtick on "Gold Digger," but what about Nas, on "We Major," on the same album as Jay, at the height of their feud?! Or Killa Cam's knock-knock verse on "Gone"? Brandy? Lupe Fiasco's career-launching verse on "Touch The Sky"? And, most notably, the presence of producer Jon Brion throughout this entire album, lending Kanye a level of technical expertise and pop mastery that he had yet to achieve on his own. Clearly, this album was crucial in terms of Kanye's career development. Is it perfect, though?

No. Hell no. The Paul Wall/Common/Game midsection suite is a trifecta of clunker beats and clunker guest verses. And do us Late Registration fans really think that any of these songs match up to the sheer genius of "Can't Tell Me Nothing" or "Champion," or that "Heard 'Em Say" compares to "Good Morning"? Of course not. But that's also why we love Late Registration: It's imperfect. It's flawed. In a lot of ways, it's quaint.

It's the last Kanye album to follow any kind of conventions (like skits, or Cam'Ron verses, both of which now seem downright precious). It's too long by at least five tracks. But it's also the last time we heard the mortal, rapper-Kanye on the mic, as opposed to stadium-status Kanye, broken-hearted-robot Kanye, outcast monster-Kanye ("KanYeti"?) or demon-deity Kanye. And the socially consciousness Kanye raps—from the "Allah-u Akbar and throw 'em some hot cars" bars that start the album, to the first verse of "Roses," to "Diamonds," and so on—are as contradictory and nuanced as they'd ever be, at least until the extremist reckoning that is Yeezus. But the reason we really love this album is best summed up by the album's closer, "Gone." It's odd. Why put Cam'ron on a closing track? Or let Consequence deliver a filler verse? Especially on this, the original Kanye-Otis Redding sample song, that already has so much going on?

Kanye's resounding response is Why not? In many ways, it's just another solid rap song, and yet, it transcends another-solid-rap-song norms, with Kanye slapping together bars too clever for their own good, and overindulging his guests. But at the end of the track, he runs through a theoretical scenario in which he abandons rap and imagines what that would be like for us, the listeners. Given the drastic tidal shift Graduation represents, the foreshadowing couldn't have been more prescient. Because that Kanye, the mortal rapper Kanye, did basically disappear after that. Years later, it still stands out as one his best verses. And it's been forgotten by many, too. "Gone" in its own way. But it's representative of the smallest (but a key) reason why we love Late Registration: Because you don't know how to. And that's fine by us. —Foster Kamer

6. 808s & Heartbreak

In one of the most fan-challenging moves since Neil Young recorded a vocodered version of his folky 1960's classic "Mr. Soul" for his proto-electronica 1982 album Trans, Kanye scrapped rap for his fourth album. Relying heavily on the 21st-century version of the vocoder, Autotune, he sang his songs this time—fully realized melodies, emotive torch songs, over a cool, futuristic backdrop of all-synth R&B arrangements.

It was shocking at the time; some people thought it was a joke. But the melodies are very strong, the pain Kanye was in is tangible and moving, and as you look around today's musical landscape, 808s & Heartbreak stands as the most prominent blueprint for what's happened in the five years since it came out. —Dave Bry

5. College Dropout

Say what you will about the skits, about Kanye's drums, about the "New Workout Plan." The College Dropout was a great album. It wasn't just that Kanye West proved himself as a solo artist with the vision to become a major star. It was the moment of impact that would create a sea change in hip-hop and open the floodgates for entirely new approaches to what rappers rapped about.

He'd already shifted the sound of hip-hop on The Blueprint, blending soul music history with contemporary pop instincts; now it was time to rewrite the rules of lyrical content in hip-hop, reaching the intersection of the streets and the classrooms, the backpackers and the ballers, the underground and the pop charts. As he said on "Family Business," "A creative way to rhyme without using nines and guns."

Many of his followers focus on the latter part, but the first part—creativity—was key, too. In retrospect, it's harder to see how radical his first record really was; The College Dropout opened up a number of lanes that artists rushed to fill, and as a result, its thematic novelty is harder to see through the thicket of history. But it remains a startlingly unique, diverse record, and one of the most relatable records ever made. Funny, flawed, and emphatically human, The College Dropout may not have fully expressed what made Kanye who he was. But it created the space for him to do it. —David Drake

4. Yeezus

Yeezus might not go down as Kanye West's most popular album—if anything, it seems explicitly designed to alienate all kinds of fans, some of whom have run this week to J. Cole's more traditional (read: inspired by The College Dropout) approach to hip-hop, or Mac Miller's streamlined product of the dorm room canon. Rap has changed a lot since Kanye first broke out of the gate as a solo artist nearly a decade ago; back then, no major hip-hop artist would make an album about the humble beginnings of a College Dropout, and make his struggle to break into the music industry the central drama of his album. Today, those everyman stories are commonplace, so of course Kanye's taking a different tack. Where he began his career desperate for approval, he's now seemingly looking to piss fans off. No one at his level of success would think of releasing a record as confrontational and divisive as Yeezus. These days, the rappers we celebrate are successful by consensus. Kanye breaks the mold of what rap today sounds like, intending to provoke rather than soothe. The album also shows just how much he's mastered the art of bridging—or in this case, aggravating—the underlying seams of conflict between his audiences.

As time unfolds, this record will be accepted as one of his best records; despite its flawed, grotesque structure, its abrasive, brusque mood, and its unrepentant anger, there is something substantial here. It is a wholly unique album that seems to take up physical space. It won't be what you spend your summer hearing at the club (although "Send It Up" has a shot) and it isn't—thankfully—the righteous political rage many expected on the release of "New Slaves." But his lyrics will sustain, even the corny ones. Sure to be a favorite of critics ("abrasive" is critical manna, word to Death Grips), in the real world, Yeezus will divide his audience. But everyone will remember it. —David Drake

3. Watch the Throne

Two years ago, when Kanye and Jay-Z's Watch the Throne came out, and the Internet jerked its collective knee, it was one of those times when I hated everybody. (Not like, hated hated, but, y'know.) Post after post, some by writers and critics who I really liked and respect, slammed the album for its materialist bent. It was the summer of Occupy Wall Street, and the super-rich rappers' relentless flossing rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. Hua Hsu dismissed the album as "an hour-long quest for the authority to rule from above, a justification to luxuriate." The thing that rubbed me the wrong way was the relentless focusing on the lyrics and the lyrics alone, and the the refusal to see beyond thematics—"They're just rapping about how rich they are," to paraphrase the general complaint—and see just how well they're rapping about how rich they are. And the fistful of politics inherent in the fact that two black millionaires were doing so in 2011. And, most of all, how just drop-dead awesome the music was. Funky, glittery, soulful, gorgeous, the album sounds as good as anything recorded in the past five years. Pure, exhilarating fun, front-to-back. You're not supposed to listen to music with your knees, jerks. You use your ears. —Dave Bry

2. Graduation

If Ye's third album can be best described in one word it would be "aspirational." What makes it so special is that here was an artist who was on top of his game and on top of the game, an artist who, by any measure, was peaking in his artistic prowess, an artist who had by all means "arrived," yet he dreamed of more. It wasn't "Look at me, I've got my money right." It was, "Wait till I get my money right." The common man dreamed of being like Kanye, yet Kanye treated himself like a common man striving for perfection.

"Stronger" gave him another Billboard smash, "Can't Tell Me Nothing" was a sorely needed street anthem, and the release-day showdown with 50 Cent was the promotional spotlight to highlight his achievement. Kanye's career can often be described as inspirational, but Graduation's stadium-status hugeness stand as a lesson in never settling with good—because it's simply not good enough. The album's sound was inspired by Kanye touring with stadium-rock acts like U2, which helped him realize that intricate lyrics don't translate well to crowds of ten thousand, so he adjusted his lyrical style and added synthesizers to the production fill up the space.

The album's effect was best exemplified on the album closer "Big Brother." The song served as an ode to Jay-Z, one that cast Hov in the highest light. In truth, at that point, Kanye wasn't Jay's underachieving underling anymore, he was his peer—accomplishing in three albums what it took Jay six to do. But placing Jay on a mantle made perfect sense for Kanye; he's always needed something to strive for, a greater goal to achieve. The day Graduation was released was the day Kanye had been waiting on his whole life: It was the day he became legendary. But it wasn't a victory lap, it was the dawn of a new day where Kanye would shine on a whole new level. It was, "Good Morning." —Insanul Ahmed

1. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

When Kanye West delivered Graduation, it felt as though we were witnessing an artist at his zenith. His musicianship was polished, his rapping vastly improved, his vision clear and (relatively) concise, his aesthetic dialed and sharp. But the reality is, Graduation was his Rubber Soul. And as all true Beatles fans know, that album is simply where things started to get interesting; that’s where things started to get weird.

The turmoil and pain that Kanye would endure in the following year, with the death his mother and end of his engagement, would fuel 18 months of touring and the production of 808s & Heartbreak, an album of singing which alienated his rap base, but still scored massive radio hits like “Heartless,” and a tumultuous relationship with Amber Rose.

However, neither the masochistic schedule nor the gut wrenching album nor charged romance salved his wounds. And his unwinding came to it’s head in a drunken, if totally awesome, interruption of Taylor Swift’s acceptance speech at the 2009 MTV Music Awards. Perhaps by accident, or perhaps as an unconscious machination, Kanye had created a situation where for the first time he was embattled by both the mainstream, livid over Swift-gate, and his core hip-hop fans who felt abandoned by 808s autotuned stylings. And so he absconded.

Holed up in a Hawaii recording studio—surrounded by the hip hop legends who had inspired him, like RZA, Q-Tip, Pete Rock, and his most compelling contemporaries, like Rick Ross, Nicki Minaj and even Jay-Z—Kanye poured himself, with complete abandon, into the music. His aim: An undeniable piece of art, so compelling it would eclipse all his perceived missteps and reassert his prominence in, his absolute necessity to, the culture. And he was successful. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy articulates his gnarled narrative, lining up and addressing all his detractors and distractors in short form. The album’s overtly triumphant lead single “Power” lets it be known in no uncertain terms that his is a talent that must be dealt with, a talent we must cherish and be grateful for. He delves deeper into his feelings of abandonment and alienation from America on “Gorgeous” and “Lost In a World" (and its outro) reflecting further, and less specifically, on the social climate that cast him out, before careening back to the self; to his personal life. Songs like “Runaway” and “Blame Game” walk thin lines between the raw and the refined, the candid and the grotesque, humanizing Kanye’s most inhumane impulses as he works out his love with Ms. Rose.

By the album’s conclusion it’s quite clear that while Graduation was certainly an exquisitely-cut jewel—so precious in it’s tidy perfection—it only scratched the surface of what Kanye West can create. Off-kilter and uncomfortable, and created under a unique duress, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is a messy masterpiece, far more interesting and involved than anything Kanye had done prior. And it set the tone for everything that would follow. —Noah Callahan-Bever

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Subject Author Message Date ID
LOL at LR being 7, and Yeezus NOT being 6-8
Jun 20th 2013
1
Late Registration is my favorite
Jun 20th 2013
15
Terrible list
Jun 20th 2013
2
MBDTF & Graduation alternation between my 1-2
Jun 20th 2013
3
This list is not good at all. lol
Jun 20th 2013
4
RE: Complex Mag Ranks Kanye's Albums (link)
Jun 20th 2013
5
RE: Complex Mag Ranks Kanye's Albums (link)
Jun 20th 2013
7
this is bad, even for them lmao
Jun 20th 2013
6
It's funny how there's no real consensus over his album rankings
Jun 20th 2013
8
i've noticed this, too.
Jun 20th 2013
10
probably a symptom of all his albums being markedly different
Jun 20th 2013
18
      lol @ the synopsis of 808's
Jun 21st 2013
22
I want to say yall was wrong
Jun 20th 2013
9
eh i can buy this list.
Jun 20th 2013
11
Wow, fuck this writer, I agree with the editor here:
Jun 20th 2013
12
Word!
Jun 20th 2013
16
lol poor foster, he doesn't know what he's talking about
Jun 20th 2013
20
Yeah, the writer was off there, smh
Jun 22nd 2013
33
I think this was a great summary of the different albums
Jun 20th 2013
13
this list is almost as bad as it could possibly be
Jun 20th 2013
14
well they got the LR/Graduation part right
Jun 20th 2013
17
man you should really revisit 808s w/ your mind open to it
Jun 21st 2013
21
      just tried this morning. first time in six years.
Jun 21st 2013
23
http://goo.gl/eZHiX
Jun 20th 2013
19
If late registration isn't your number 1 don't even talk to me.
Jun 21st 2013
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RE: Complex Mag Ranks Kanye's Albums (link)
Jun 21st 2013
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RE: Complex Mag Ranks Kanye's Albums (link)
Jun 21st 2013
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RE: Complex Mag Ranks Kanye's Albums (link)
Jun 21st 2013
27
Yea, Scarface's The Fix is the album that quote should be applied to
Jun 21st 2013
28
it was 2005 when they ended the beef, officially
Jun 21st 2013
29
Why is Cruel Summer listed as a Kanye album?
Jun 21st 2013
30
he's responsible enough for production or features that it counts
Jun 21st 2013
32
Big ups to everyone who has 808's in the top 4
Jun 21st 2013
31
I disagree with the order of the albums...
Jun 22nd 2013
34
RE: Complex Mag Ranks Kanye's Albums (link)
Jun 22nd 2013
35

DJR
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1. "LOL at LR being 7, and Yeezus NOT being 6-8"
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1. Late Registration
2. College Dropout
3. Graduation
4. MBDTF
5. Watch the Throne
6. 808's
7. Cruel Summer
8. Yeezus

  

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15. "Late Registration is my favorite "
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Thu Jun-20-13 06:47 PM by makaveli

  

          

I didn't think there were any people in the world who would put it at 7.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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Eric B Is Prez
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2. "Terrible list"
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IMO it's

1. Late Registration
2. MBDTF
3. College Dropout
4. Graduation
5. Watch the Throne
6. Yeezus
7. 808's
8. Cruel Summer

Anything less would be uncivilized (c)

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3. "MBDTF & Graduation alternation between my 1-2"
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1. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
2. Graduation
3. The College Dropout
4. Late Registration
5. Watch The Throne
6. Cruel Summer
7. Yeezus
8. 808s & Heartbreak

  

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4. "This list is not good at all. lol"
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But my Ye tastes are totally different, and I know my lack of love for Graduation ain't gonna win me any fans.

1. College Dropout
2. 808s
3. Late Registration
4. MBDTF
5. WTT
6. Yeezus
7. Graduation
8. Cruel Summer

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5. "RE: Complex Mag Ranks Kanye's Albums (link)"
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1. MBDTF
2. Graduation
3. Late Registration
4. WTT
5. 808's
6. College Dropout
7. Cruel Summer
8. Yeezus


that's my order, but i happen to like all his albums. the only reason cruel summer is above yeezus (right now) is because "new god flow," "clique," and "mercy" were straight FIRE. i actually happen to like yeezus overall more than cruel summer tho.

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7. "RE: Complex Mag Ranks Kanye's Albums (link)"
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>1. MBDTF
>2. Graduation
>3. Late Registration
>4. WTT
>5. 808's
>6. College Dropout
>7. Cruel Summer
>8. Yeezus

This is basically my order. just switch graduation and late registration.

>
>
>that's my order, but i happen to like all his albums. the only
>reason cruel summer is above yeezus (right now) is because
>"new god flow," "clique," and "mercy" were straight FIRE. i
>actually happen to like yeezus overall more than cruel summer
>tho.

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6. "this is bad, even for them lmao"
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PCProductions
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8. "It's funny how there's no real consensus over his album rankings"
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Like some people have College Dropout #1 while others have it below #5, same goes for Late Registration etc.

It's interesting.

  

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Joe Corn Mo
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10. "i've noticed this, too. "
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>Like some people have College Dropout #1 while others have it
>below #5, same goes for Late Registration etc.
>
>It's interesting.

  

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18. "probably a symptom of all his albums being markedly different"
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CD: Straight soul rap
LR: Grandiose soul rap
Grad: Maximal pop music
808s: Bullshit
MBDTF: Narrative epic
Cruel Summer: Party jams and bummer themes
Yeezus: Sex dungeon rave


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22. "lol @ the synopsis of 808's"
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>CD: Straight soul rap
>LR: Grandiose soul rap
>Grad: Maximal pop music
>808s: Bullshit
>MBDTF: Narrative epic
>Cruel Summer: Party jams and bummer themes
>Yeezus: Sex dungeon rave
>


^ i agree with all of this, btw.

  

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9. "I want to say yall was wrong"
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I want to claim my W for telling yall Yeezus was better that LR

but I cannot

simply because I refuse to agree with David Drake

good day to you all.

  

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11. "eh i can buy this list."
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Thu Jun-20-13 04:49 PM by BrooklynWHAT

  

          

everyone has a different Kanye album and from most folks I talk to, Late Registration is either really high or really low. i'm surprised Complex didn't put Graduation #1 though.

my list is

1. MBDTF
2. Yeezus / Late Registration
4. Graduation
5. Watch The Throne
6. Dropout
7. 808s
8. Cruel Summer

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12. "Wow, fuck this writer, I agree with the editor here:"
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> The Paul Wall/Common/Game midsection suite is a
>trifecta of clunker beats and clunker guest verses. >This is insane. "Drive Slow," "My Way Home" and "Crack Music"
>are as strong a string of songs as Kanye has ever recorded.
>But I'mma let Foster finish.]

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20. "lol poor foster, he doesn't know what he's talking about"
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33. "Yeah, the writer was off there, smh"
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Otherwise, a pretty dope summary of the album

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13. "I think this was a great summary of the different albums"
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after LR thought

>> mortal, rapper-Kanye on the mic, as opposed to stadium-status Kanye, broken-hearted-robot Kanye, outcast monster-Kanye ("KanYeti"?) or demon-deity Kanye

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14. "this list is almost as bad as it could possibly be"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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Nodima
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17. "well they got the LR/Graduation part right"
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Thu Jun-20-13 07:15 PM by Nodima

  

          

as far as if one's in one place, the other tends to be in the exact opposite spot.


1. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy: 9.72
2. Late Registration: 8.93
3. The College Dropout: 8.49
4. Watch the Throne: 8.31
5. Graduation: 7.95
6. Yeezus: 7.79
7. Cruel Summer: 6.73





8. 808s & Heartbreaks: 3.38


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BrooklynWHAT
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21. "man you should really revisit 808s w/ your mind open to it"
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i mean i've seen you re-rank a lot of stuff over time.

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23. "just tried this morning. first time in six years."
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Fri Jun-21-13 07:47 AM by Nodima

  

          

beats still hot. I've gotten used to shitty singers using autotune now so it's not as uncomfortable a listen as it used to be, but Kanye on 808s is still probably the worst offender. "Paranoid" and "Robocop" still the only songs I ever want to hear again really. If I still agree with anything I wrote about it (when I wasn't actually doing reviews so it was just my thoughts unfiltered), it's this:

"The man doesn't seem to have figured out the autotune from the perspective of artist; where Lil' Wayne, T-Pain or someone like Cher approach the autotune plug-in with an attitude like "what if this weren't on?", Kanye seems to never take that into account and gives a phoned in performance. His reason for using the autotune is legitimate conceptually; it is his performance behind the mask that is suspect. It's like saying anyone could put fucked up Joker paint on and start acting like Heath Ledger. Some people aren't qualified to do certain things and Kanye is in that position here."


He figured that out by "Runaway".




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19. "http://goo.gl/eZHiX"
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http://goo.gl/eZHiX

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24. "If late registration isn't your number 1 don't even talk to me. "
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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25. "RE: Complex Mag Ranks Kanye's Albums (link)"
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My rankings

1. Late Registration
2. MBDTF
3. Graduation
4. WTT
5. College Dropout
6. 808's & Heartbreak
7. Cruel Summer
8. Yeezus

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26. "RE: Complex Mag Ranks Kanye's Albums (link)"
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1. MBDTF
2. LR
3. College Dropout
4. 808s
5. Yeezus
6. Watch the Throne
7. Graduation
8. Cruel Summer

This was really hard actually. Idk if i agree with this list at all.

It's too early to decide where Yeezus falls on this list. I think it's in the middle somewhere. I love CD but I dont re-visit it hardly ever, and at this point it's only getting props for it's legacy. 808s is the wild card. I think it's a great album (I know many disagree) but it's hard to place it among his catalog because it's so unlike the rest.

The only thing i feel confident about are #1-2 and #7-8. I know a lot of you really like Graduation, but i felt like it was kanye at his lowest point lyrically. And to me it has the least replay value of his albums.

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27. "RE: Complex Mag Ranks Kanye's Albums (link)"
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How was 2005 the height of the nas/jay feud?

Whoever wrote the LR review needs a swift kick in the head.

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28. "Yea, Scarface's The Fix is the album that quote should be applied to"
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Nm

  

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29. " it was 2005 when they ended the beef, officially"
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Fri Jun-21-13 03:44 PM by DJR

  

          

And it was around the time LR came out too. The height of that beef was 2001-02, which was a whole different era.

Regardless, he couldn't have possibly been even listening to rap, if he's that far off with his timeline.

Our culture has really gone the way of people just talking out there asses on everything though. Music, sports....people who weren't even listening or watching at the time, always want to act like retroactive experts on old shit. It's ridiculous.

I spazzed on my cousin who was born in like 1990, on FB today. He's putting up these dumbass rankings of basketball players, most of whom he never watched play, talking all kinds of wrong shit ("well, Olajuwon only won 1 'chip and people say he's great!"), acting like some bball historian. Had to check him, shit's an epidemic at this point.

  

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30. "Why is Cruel Summer listed as a Kanye album?"
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it's a compilation right? (i haven't heard it)

my order

1. Late Registration
2. Graduation
3. College Dropout
4. Watch the Throne
5. Beautiful Dark twisted fantasy
6. 808's
?. Yeezus


I put Yeezus last just because i don't know it as well as i do the others. gotta give it a few years to see where it stands compared to the rest of his work.

it's crazy how dope his output as been, not counting Yeezus, i put 808's last and it's an album i love.

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32. "he's responsible enough for production or features that it counts"
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though it's not totally scientific i figure if you get 7% credit on the album through features or production credits you can sort of claim an album. It gives Raekwon and RZA a certain distinction for their contributions to 36 Chambers for example, or Ghostface to OB4CL...

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31. "Big ups to everyone who has 808's in the top 4"
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Fri Jun-21-13 05:27 PM by Kid Ray

  

          

1. Late Registration 10/10
2. Graduation 10/10
3. Yeezus 10/10
4. 808's 9/10
5. Watch the Throne 8.7/10
6. MBDTF 8.5/10
7. Dropout 8.3/10

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34. "I disagree with the order of the albums..."
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Obviously, Late Registration as number 7 is an abomination. But for the most part, I wasn't *too* mad at the list. I realized that with Kanye, it's actually pretty tough to sequence all of his albums because of how diverse his discography is. With how different his albums are from each other, it's really a matter of tastes.

That said, I think the albums were rated in terms of scope/impact, instead of actual worst vs. best. I acknowledge the impact that "808s & Heartbreaks" had on the industry, for example, but no way in hell that it's *better* than Late Registration.

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35. "RE: Complex Mag Ranks Kanye's Albums (link)"
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Those r some of my folks over there....But that 'Ye list is side-eye worthy....

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