i think it's because most musicians or artists in general are fantasists that never hold a real job or obtain a real education and have a weak, unrealistic work ethic instilled in them.

imagine if you were in your early 20's and made a regular persons salary for 10 years just from pressing a few buttons on 1 track...
how "disconnected" would you be from "real world" expectations?

after the seemingly unlimited congratulatory money and celebrity for your limited output and meager work...

enter: delusions of grandeur, apathy, unanchored ambitiousness, and every other "cause" people fall off after their initial impact.

we talk about the work ethic of 2pac, madlib, jay dee like it's god-like.
the fact is they just worked on their craft literally everyday.
...which is the norm in every other field of business.

i used to think it was just getting old that caused you to lose your edge...
now i know it's just not taking the time to keep it sharpened and realizing that it's even dull in the first place.

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Because most of the stuff you mentioned here:

>enter: delusions of grandeur, apathy, unanchored
>ambitiousness

is also a problem with kids who grow up with money.

>Because most of the stuff you mentioned here:
>
>>enter: delusions of grandeur, apathy, unanchored
>>ambitiousness
>
>is also a problem with kids who grow up with money.

do kids with money have to hustle and work?

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we champion people like 2pac for working everyday.

i work everyday.
everybody works everyday in every other line of business.

only in entertainment do we justify apathy and other inadequacies.

the root cause for why so many acts fall off is the same imo.

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>imagine if you were in your early 20's and made a regular
>persons salary for 10 years just from pressing a few buttons
>on 1 track...

is THAT how it works?

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it's easy to say whatever the hell you want and have it sound right when you frame shit like he does.

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>is THAT how it works?

certainly did in the 80s/90s/00s.

plenty of people who just pushed a couple of buttons and made money beyond most peoples wildest dreams.

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>certainly did in the 80s/90s/00s.
>
>plenty of people who just pushed a couple of buttons and made
>money beyond most peoples wildest dreams.




the 80s had MJ, prince, george michael, whitney houston,
the police, the minutemen, i mean goddamn...

the 90s had outkast, ice cube, green day, public enemy, i mean goddamn...


the 2000s, fine... you hate all that stuff.

but shit. i have never once heard you talk about a band you like.
don't tell me you have to be negative to get responses.
i've gotten platinum posts talking about songs i like.
one time i got one based on a new album i recommended that most of the folks in the post had never even heard.



you have nothing good to say about any music of any era?
most of my favorite music was released before i was born.
still, i find things to say about music i find exciting.



this ain't snark.
i'm genuinely curious.


what music do you LIKE?
and as for the OP... everything on the planet falls off eventually.
nothing is excepted from this rule.

it just happens to everything.

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it's sort of like, when a certain sound or feel is prevalent in an era, a good amount of musicians in that era can "pull it off" but musicians of a later era can't seem to really "capture" that sound or feel.

When an artist or band is in their "zone" or "era" what they're doing can "click" but that phenomenon never seems to last.

If that wasn't the case the Thom Bell's and Gamble and Huff's would always be tops in the game....but they had "their time".

either you keep making songs that sound the same
b/c you really don't have anything else to say musically...

which means people accuse you of stagnating
and not changing with the times.




or you keep switching it up musically,
which means people will accuse you of pretentiousness or trend hopping
if the experiment doesn't work.



most artists are lucky to create one (1) genius song
that makes it into the collective memory.

a few legends have a run of making a string of classic albums.


but if those legends don't die, they will either fall of
trying to keep up with the times or fall off by FAILING to keep up with them.



really, the most an artist that ever gets a genius track can ever hope for
is to either die and become martyrs before they fall off,
or create a loyal fanbase that will follow them as they fall into obsucurity in the general population.




and btw, making classic music is more than "just pushing buttons."
(if it was that easy, wouldn't more people be good at it).

and 90 percent of people that work their jobs don't spend "countless hours honing their craft. (look at where you work. aren't most people pretty lousy at their jobs? when people do something in an excellent way, it's remarkable.)



so... no.
to this entire post.

out of the thousands of acts that put out records in any given period, only a handful will last long enough to fall off in the 1st place b/c their stuff ain't good enough to hold ppl's interest for long. but then those who do last longer in the spotlight are a tiny # from that handful. it's a miracle anyone manages not to fall off once they've made it on at all. it's inevitable.

i mean in the history of popular music, how many acts have had hits over the course of 2 decades? 3? 4? 5? et al. so very few. and it ain't b/c the others lost their edge or didn't work or whatever. it's b/c the public is somewhat fickle. well, not that. b/c we're talking about longtime acts w/long-standing careers. like i said, it's a miracle any of them manage to score more than 2 or 3 hits in the course of a career. it's short-sighted to blame acts falling off on some fault of theirs. when their experience is the norm. it's rare that acts DON'T fall off after a short time.

fuck you.

this

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people lose interest why?
they try to evolve with the times and lost in the sauce
they are a shadow of their former self and their output pales in comparison
they get overly ambitious and alienate their base
etc.

there's hundreds of reasons why people lose interest.

what i was suggesting was that perhaps not working everyday and sharpening their craft due to a lousy work ethic that most "artistic-types" suffer from (despite their level or lack of success) is the root.

you're going to get old and die.
and people are going to want to enjoy the "young you" over the "present you" every time.
but lots of acts "fall off" in their late 20's.

lauryn hill as one example might as well be 58 years old now.

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Thats pretty much the end all of it. Id even venture to say MORE so in hip hop because fads change so constantly (every 3-5 years). Then theres the added pressure for an established talent of not sounding corny as you TRY to evolve your shit.

posts from the Mistermaxx and even Banner types that judge artists so harshly for falling off and not being relative. Most artists, even successful ones, see this a WHOLE LOT different. Everybody in the crowd thinks they know what the artist should and shouldn't do, but shittttt.

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>posts from the Mistermaxx and even Banner types that judge
>artists so harshly for falling off and not being relative.
>Most artists, even successful ones, see this a WHOLE LOT
>different. Everybody in the crowd thinks they know what the
>artist should and shouldn't do, but shittttt.

usually a result of two things, sometimes both:

1. Music landscape completely changes, even within a one year period, and artist still keeps same style and sound

2. Artist sees music landscape change, and immediately goes for new sound, which doesn't go along with what they are best at doing

And THAT'S just for the artists who do have talent and aren't just fad acts.

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I also wonder how many of my favorite artists hold a day job.

Neither of those thoughts pertain to your post, but yeah.

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and then resort to being bitter and blaming everybody but themselves

the ones who last with putting stuff don't ever resort to those things regardless of the politics and the nature of the business and beast they are facing and dealing with period.

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

every masterpiece starts as a blank canvas.
who's holding the pen is what changes the output.

every great act willed the music into happening through observations, hard work and a genuine affinity for the music they listened to as "fans" that prompted their involvement in the first place.

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when a turkey stop having hits and they are playing the local county fairs or the amusement park gigs then they fell off.

and it happens to many, that's the bottom line ran out of hits.

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

You have artists like Fiona Apple and Radiohead. Neither of them have had a "hit" since the 90s. They sure as fuck didn't fall off.

Eminem DIDN'T run out of hits, and he certainly fell the fuck off.
The Luniz' best album didn't have any hits on it.

A song being a hit is indicative of its popularity. An artist falling off is indicative of their quality. NOBODY thinks that all an artist has to do to be popular is produce good work.


This is valid in discussions of the most popular artists, but aside from them, it isn't, really.

sorry to break the news to you they all fell off. Fiona Apple ain't mattered in years, Radiohead living off the past
and Eminem still out here trying to be radio friendly and nobody is sweating him now.

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

Awful......... awful reasons you gave.
Let me help you out. It's called life. People get bored with shit.
and wtf at your examples. Madlib???? He's still an underground artist. And no, everybody doesn't like his music.

and they can either still put out music for the crowd that still follows them or just do revival/reunion shows.......

But no one is on top of their game forever.
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restaurants peak and fall off with the same Michelin-starred chef. the greatest movie directors have a certain span where their work was exemplary. painters. sculptors. fashion designers.

musicians are no different.

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