i know this is sad, but i really don't fucking like this dude AT ALL

https://twitter.com/TalibKweli/status/341196976144130048

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Delete this dumb shit

Nothing controversial or problematic about that, at all


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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

that is what he's saying

and he's wrong as fuck


now go play ur macklemore cd & read an article about nike sweatshops while checking your portfolio out fuckboy

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So that would make you

>wrong as fuck

He made a comment relative to his experience.

Then you got salty about it and made this post based on your interpretation of his statement.

because actually it IS what he said

critics are cowards afraid to make their own art

so break down how im wrong, i cant wait for this one

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well ...

1 he said often...he didnt say anytime anybody

and

2 it seems like he speaking directly about ARTISTS who dont release material but then are hypercritical of others

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

point 2 im not seeing it though

i also find the notion of releasing art in & of its self as a couageous act as utterly foolish, rooted in an artist-centric view (even tho he's more of just a rapper than an artist to me anyway), & he clearly was absolute about that

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"Releasing art into the world is a brave act. I find the people not brave enough to do it are often the ones most critical of it." -Talib

"any1 who criticizes any artist is a coward who wont make their own art" -you

I'm sorry, but his is on you to explain how these are the same.

however, his intent is still clear

& that intent is to characterize critics of art as MOSTLY frustrated or poor artists themselves

its dismissive & it intends to gerneralize criyics as unworthy of making criticism

if u are even cursorily famiar w/ his rhymes and his lashing out at critics, its not much of a leap in any way to assume he's being the same condescending, fence-riding guy he's (as far as his very public persona) been for sometime

look, i know he desperately wants acceptance from the mainstream, he's been catering to it for years w/ little success, im just weary of his judgmental platitudes & snide dismissals of those who do t agree w/ his views

and YES, the fact he was that whiny backpack dude until it stopped serving him IS relevant

as is the fact that he hasnt advanced the quality of his rapping or music in the last decade

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>however, his intent is still clear
>

Is it?

>& that intent is to characterize critics of art as MOSTLY
>frustrated or poor artists themselves
>

I don't think that was the intent at all. I think it was just to point out that most music critics aren't true artists and therefore their knowledge is limited to a degree. And I don't find anything wrong with that. This is the same as the Jaleen Rose/Skip Bayless argument.

>its dismissive & it intends to gerneralize criyics as unworthy
>of making criticism
>

Again, I don't think his comment was meant to mean that people can't criticize, I think it means that he values criticism from his peers more so than from people on message boards. And if I were an artist, and I'd be willing to bet if you were an artist, we'd feel the same way.

>if u are even cursorily famiar w/ his rhymes and his lashing
>out at critics, its not much of a leap in any way to assume
>he's being the same condescending, fence-riding guy he's (as
>far as his very public persona) been for sometime
>

He can be whoever he wants to be but we as fans shouldn't allow his persona play a part in our opinion on his music and judging by this thread, I'd bet that you do. And how is that not condescending on your part?

>look, i know he desperately wants acceptance from the
>mainstream, he's been catering to it for years w/ little
>success, im just weary of his judgmental platitudes & snide
>dismissals of those who do t agree w/ his views
>

How do you know this? Have you had that conversation with him? Maybe he's just making music he likes.

>and YES, the fact he was that whiny backpack dude until it
>stopped serving him IS relevant
>

He actually made it a point not to be boxed in. I don't think it had anything to do with what was "serving him".

>as is the fact that he hasnt advanced the quality of his
>rapping or music in the last decade

That would be your opinion though right? You are actually giving Kweli a very good reason to view critics the way he does. What stripes do you have to make such statements and pass them off as fact? What have you accomplished that makes you worthy enough to tell an MC with 15+ years experience about his skill, output, and views on critics?

>>however, his intent is still clear
>>
>
>Is it?

yes his intent is to marginalize and demonize "most" critics of music...

why?

my guess?

he's been criticised, it hurt his feelings and he doesn't think it's fair that those meanies are allowed to hurt his and his artistic bretheren's feelings (even though from jump his whole steez was to broadly criticize ppl who did what he didn't like)

>>& that intent is to characterize critics of art as MOSTLY
>>frustrated or poor artists themselves
>>
>
>I don't think that was the intent at all. I think it was just
>to point out that most music critics aren't true artists and
>therefore their knowledge is limited to a degree.

then why the talk of the "bravery" of the artist versus the cowardice of the critics?

he's drawing a very distinct line between "them" and "us" and if you think that the societal line of this type lies in who is and isn't an artist then i don't know what to tell you...

>And I don't
>find anything wrong with that. This is the same as the Jaleen
>Rose/Skip Bayless argument.

except that sports and music are not the same, never have been and the analogies that ppl use to compare them do not work in reality...sports is not a subjective form of expression, it's much easier to objectively look at athletes performance and criticize it properly than art

>>its dismissive & it intends to gerneralize criyics as
>unworthy
>>of making criticism
>>
>
>Again, I don't think his comment was meant to mean that people
>can't criticize, I think it means that he values criticism
>from his peers more so than from people on message boards.

you're reading more into what he said than i did lmao



>And if I were an artist, and I'd be willing to bet if you were
>an artist, we'd feel the same way.

maybe, maybe not...most artists on twitter don't say the dumb dismissive shit kweli does

>>if u are even cursorily famiar w/ his rhymes and his lashing
>>out at critics, its not much of a leap in any way to assume
>>he's being the same condescending, fence-riding guy he's (as
>>far as his very public persona) been for sometime
>>
>
>He can be whoever he wants to be but we as fans shouldn't
>allow his persona play a part in our opinion on his music and
>judging by this thread, I'd bet that you do. And how is that
>not condescending on your part?

WRONG

if he was an instrumental artist, a jazz artist, etc. then your point is fair

but HE IS A RAPPER...if you do not at least partially judge a rapper based on what HE SAYS (that is after all, the main aspect of their art, like it or not) then i think you suck at being an evaluator of rap music

that's not to say you can't like shit i don't, but to act like content is not important IN RAP MUSIC WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY POETRY SET TO MUSIC is just fucking stupid IMO, and the biggest excuse and cop out used by these fucking dumb ass rappers spreading this dumb ass shit everywhere

>>look, i know he desperately wants acceptance from the
>>mainstream, he's been catering to it for years w/ little
>>success, im just weary of his judgmental platitudes & snide
>>dismissals of those who do t agree w/ his views
>>
>
>How do you know this? Have you had that conversation with
>him? Maybe he's just making music he likes.

agreed, this is an assumption on my part that could be wholly inaccurate

>>and YES, the fact he was that whiny backpack dude until it
>>stopped serving him IS relevant
>>
>
>He actually made it a point not to be boxed in. I don't think
>it had anything to do with what was "serving him".

when someone abandons what they do well because they don't want to be "in a box" that's fine, artist's perogative, but don't get mad when the shit doesn't stand up to your better material and ppl call you on it

like, i saw Apollo (who made a dope ass Talib remix awhile back btw) say in an intvw that he would NEVER be a keyboard producer, that he does what he does, he does his thing...if he does try to get "out of the box" that's fine, but if the art suffers and ppl call him on it, i don't see how he could get mad


>>as is the fact that he hasnt advanced the quality of his
>>rapping or music in the last decade
>
>That would be your opinion though right? You are actually
>giving Kweli a very good reason to view critics the way he
>does. What stripes do you have to make such statements and
>pass them off as fact? What have you accomplished that makes
>you worthy enough to tell an MC with 15+ years experience
>about his skill, output, and views on critics?
>

yep, you proved my point...NO criticism of ANY type is acceptable from ANYONE BUT other artists with the same credentials

that is a ludicrous and very insulated and priveleged stance to take

music is nothing w/o people who are not artists themselves listening to it

and fwiw i've made this same argument myself, and it's mostly always bullshit

in fact, sometimes the outsider, the one who doesn't get caught up in technicalities and goes based on the feeling and impact of the art has BETTER perpective...it's up to the artist to value it or dismiss it...


all that said none of this is black and white, there are degrees and each situation is different

but here, dude was BROADLY generalizing about the failings of "most" critics...it was a baseless and self-absorbed generalization from someone who clearly does not want his art to be judged...if he doesn't want it judged, then he should keep it to himself, but i know, i know, the brave valiant kweli will withstand the hate and release his music because he's a brave superhero who conquers the hate with a mic and condescension!!!

smh

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The only complaint with that tweet should be that he's saying something we've already heard from artists enough times already.

some of yall have that PTHHD/stockholm-rapper-syndrome too strong to see what im gettin at

the high irony in all this "phil's just a hitdog" shit is i specifically avoid criticising cats & try to just stick to what i like, but man...no reason for to be a bitch & not publicly challenge this bullshit if i feel like it

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It's apparent that you have previous issue(s) with TK which is causing you to take special offense to this 140 character (or less) statement.

energy into

i missed the part of the description of the lesson that defines what is & isn't worthy of a poster's time

i think this is some bullshit, i went after it...maybe im not the problem, maybe the problem is ppl letting hoe shit like this slide all the time bc theyre afraid to criticize someone popular for fear of the "hater" tag, i dunno

YOU certainly have the time to take issue with MY approach to this tho, if me criticizing a rappers tweet is a waste of time what is your criticism of my criticism?

do u see how shallow yall be lookin at shit sometimes?


>It's apparent that you have previous issue(s) with TK which
>is causing you to take special offense to this 140 character
>(or less) statement.

right, i cant take issue w/ the statement itself it *must* be something else

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how he should feel about critics, not voice his opinions on twitter, and improve his musical output in this same very thread?

You don see that as being somewhat hypocritical?


>energy into
>
>i missed the part of the description of the lesson that
>defines what is & isn't worthy of a poster's time
>
>i think this is some bullshit, i went after it...maybe im not
>the problem, maybe the problem is ppl letting hoe shit like
>this slide all the time bc theyre afraid to criticize someone
>popular for fear of the "hater" tag, i dunno
>
>YOU certainly have the time to take issue with MY approach to
>this tho, if me criticizing a rappers tweet is a waste of time
>what is your criticism of my criticism?
>
>do u see how shallow yall be lookin at shit sometimes?
>
>
>>It's apparent that you have previous issue(s) with TK which
>>is causing you to take special offense to this 140 character
>>(or less) statement.
>
>right, i cant take issue w/ the statement itself it *must* be
>something else
>
>

i'm not above admitting i didn't approach the topic the right way...i went about it in an angry oppositional hip-hop style, a bit much and overboard

BUT

>how he should feel about critics,

he can feel how he wants, and if he makes broad generalizations about large groups of unknown ppl he should be prepared to be called on that broad generalization

of course the magic of twitter is you can just ignore your critics, engage your dickriders and build your world to your liking

> not voice his opinions on
>twitter,

he can voice his wack ass opinion and i can criticize that wack ass opinion, ESPECIALLY if his opinion was a condemnation of a large group of people

>and improve his musical output in this same very
>thread?

that's where i fucked up, but i was shitting on him already so i thought i'd throw some cheap shots in there about how his shit has fallen the fuck off over the last 10 years

>You don see that as being somewhat hypocritical?




>
>
>>energy into
>>
>>i missed the part of the description of the lesson that
>>defines what is & isn't worthy of a poster's time
>>
>>i think this is some bullshit, i went after it...maybe im
>not
>>the problem, maybe the problem is ppl letting hoe shit like
>>this slide all the time bc theyre afraid to criticize
>someone
>>popular for fear of the "hater" tag, i dunno
>>
>>YOU certainly have the time to take issue with MY approach
>to
>>this tho, if me criticizing a rappers tweet is a waste of
>time
>>what is your criticism of my criticism?
>>
>>do u see how shallow yall be lookin at shit sometimes?
>>
>>
>>>It's apparent that you have previous issue(s) with TK which
>>>is causing you to take special offense to this 140
>character
>>>(or less) statement.
>>
>>right, i cant take issue w/ the statement itself it *must*
>be
>>something else
>>
>>
>

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>i'm not above admitting i didn't approach the topic the right
>way...i went about it in an angry oppositional hip-hop style,
>a bit much and overboard
>
>BUT
>
>>how he should feel about critics,
>
>he can feel how he wants, and if he makes broad
>generalizations about large groups of unknown ppl he should be
>prepared to be called on that broad generalization
>
>of course the magic of twitter is you can just ignore your
>critics, engage your dickriders and build your world to your
>liking
>
>> not voice his opinions on
>>twitter,
>
>he can voice his wack ass opinion and i can criticize that
>wack ass opinion, ESPECIALLY if his opinion was a condemnation
>of a large group of people
>
>>and improve his musical output in this same very
>>thread?
>
>that's where i fucked up, but i was shitting on him already so
>i thought i'd throw some cheap shots in there about how his
>shit has fallen the fuck off over the last 10 years
>
>>You don see that as being somewhat hypocritical?
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>>energy into
>>>
>>>i missed the part of the description of the lesson that
>>>defines what is & isn't worthy of a poster's time
>>>
>>>i think this is some bullshit, i went after it...maybe im
>>not
>>>the problem, maybe the problem is ppl letting hoe shit like
>>>this slide all the time bc theyre afraid to criticize
>>someone
>>>popular for fear of the "hater" tag, i dunno
>>>
>>>YOU certainly have the time to take issue with MY approach
>>to
>>>this tho, if me criticizing a rappers tweet is a waste of
>>time
>>>what is your criticism of my criticism?
>>>
>>>do u see how shallow yall be lookin at shit sometimes?
>>>
>>>
>>>>It's apparent that you have previous issue(s) with TK
>which
>>>>is causing you to take special offense to this 140
>>character
>>>>(or less) statement.
>>>
>>>right, i cant take issue w/ the statement itself it *must*
>>be
>>>something else
>>>
>>>
>>
>

When timed right, "go fall on a; sword, knife, screwdriver or any other random sharp object" is always comedy.

https://chriswind.bandcamp.com/track/massage

"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

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"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." © Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

i want to be sure who you are talking about

bc its not clear

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cats use dismissiveness to avoid having to actually engage in discussion or justify their opinions or views...

the formula is often this: make a broad generalization that paints "them" or "the other" in a negative light...when ANYONE disagrees, regardless of the substance of their criticism or disagreement, say that they must be "them" or "the other" bc they dare take issue w/ said broad & often incorrect generalization

again, allows u to dismiss them out of hand w/o having to actially engage the substance of the criticism, possibly bc being dismissive is the only way to hold onto fallacious ideas

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you hate him so much why you on his twitter? looking for things to hate on? I mean I think the comment is meh, but he's not talking to me so i really don't give a fuck.

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Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." © Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

i guess some folks think they can say shit in a public forum and be above being called out on the deficiencies in their snide dismissiveness

>you hate him so much why you on his twitter?

someone i follow favorited the tweet

l>ooking for
>things to hate on?

not at all, read something i disagreed with & responded to it...happens a lot on twitter

>I mean I think the comment is meh, but
>he's not talking to me so i really don't give a fuck.

ahhhh...ur above it all, the comment doesn't bother u bc ur not one of "them", but of course anyone who disagrees must be one of "them", and since i disagree w/ the bullshit idea i'm one of "them"

the self fulfilling prophecy has been fulfilled

my apologies for speaking my mind & not bowing down to the desire of artists to face no criticism

like lots of folks out there are so focused on technical aspects of music & how complicated their shit is that it is sucked dry of any actual soul or meaning or ability to move a listener *shrug*

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>Big PEMFin H & z's
>"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1
>thing, a musician." © Miles
>
>"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

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Hurt people hurt people.
How much energy you putting into this emotion?
Would not the heart be fuller, if focused on the positive aspects of the world.
It takes a brave soul to find the light when engulfed in darkness.
Light travels indiscriminately to all, but we must envite the darkness in.

clichè's and all dat. LOL!!

If you surveyed twitter for profoundly deep bullshit being posted by artists in defense of their work...

It really isn't worth your time for an artist you admittedly don't like.

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Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." © Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

speaking out against some smug egotistical rappers bullshit is worth my time

IN FACT

it's very HIP HOP of me

in fact i think those who are critical of criics are jus cowards too afraid to voice their own criticisms

so they suck the balls of the same rappers they used to call out (they name names now tho!)

fuck talib kweli & the bullshit horse he rode in on, homie needs a new flow anyway, shits tired

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you expected these responses. there could have been a discussion about this on other grounds but that's not what you wanted. plus it's been discussed before.

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Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." © Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

i was actually hoping that ONE of yall wouldnt come w/ the same old puss ass shit that passes for rap fandom these days

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I don't even like his new album much but you have said nothing about his music, and while there may not be cowardice in critique. Cursing a mans name from the safety of the internet is cowardice in the extreme.

Mods please lock this.

www.anwarmorse.com
https://www.instagram.com/thereal_anwarmorse99/

this is a dude that passively agressively disses anyone not like him from the safety of his own twitter account & the recording booth yet you choose to brand me the old internet tough typing coward, fuck all the way off for not thinking beyond step one my man

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he used to ride on from an artistic standpoint
now what you think about that is what you think about it, but let's not act like the shit doesn't happen
you can't claim to want Hip Hop to be better one day then champion the problem artists the next

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cause he knew he'd get checked & stomped out at the lyricist lounge

now that he's dickriding wack mofos he's droppin names left & right tho

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not naming names part

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What he's saying is it takes a lot of bravery to make your own art and release it to the world. Which is true. And on the other hand, it's really easy to take on a snobby attitude and shit on things. Which is also true. He's not saying EVERY critic of art is really just an artist too afraid to make and release it. He did say however, that in HIS perspective, the people MOST critical of art are one's who WISH they could do it themselves. This could be something you can take issue with and discuss. But you're clearly not leading a level headed discussion about anything, you're just stomping up and down like and raging lunatic. In other words, your post sucks dude, and you probably suck too, as a person.

>What he's saying is it takes a lot of bravery to make your
>own art and release it to the world.

lmfao, the lies artists tell themselves

>Which is true. And on
>the other hand, it's really easy to take on a snobby attitude
>and shit on things.

absolutely, for example: TALIB KWELI who was too pussy to name names when he was dissing folks bit is quick to shit on fans for daring to have opinions

Which is also true. He's not saying
>EVERY critic of art is really just an artist too afraid to
>make and release it. He did say however, that in HIS
>perspective, the people MOST critical of art are one's who
>WISH they could do it themselves.

very convenirnt way to avoid having to answer for ur own hypocrisy

blame the "fans" who know ur new shit sucks


This could be something you
>can take issue with and discuss. But you're clearly not
>leading a level headed discussion about anything, you're just
>stomping up and down like and raging lunatic. In other words,
>your post sucks dude, and you probably suck too, as a person.
>

awwwwww...did i hurt ur feelings by dissing a rapper?

dont like my approach?

fuck off then

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I don't give a shit about Talib Kweli. You're just a huge idiot, and really stupid.

too funny, cat stays going out of his way to attack Kweli...phil is a sad, lame, little man...that said, don't like the new Kweli, but respect him for the quality ish he has given to the game....

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

.

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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

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Duke, Knicks, Yankess, Giants, UGA, Rangers

Binlahab droppin science on the youth

"youre frustrated now? in undergrad? reading books all day?,
surrounded by more nubile unattached pussy than you will be in your life?"

we good

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so im not going on anything other than this hitdog ass post

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Duke, Knicks, Yankess, Giants, UGA, Rangers

Binlahab droppin science on the youth

"youre frustrated now? in undergrad? reading books all day?,
surrounded by more nubile unattached pussy than you will be in your life?"

NOW

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https://93millionmilesabove.blogspot.com/
https://rateyourmusic.com/~Kosa12

why the sad face there helen rottencrotch?

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https://soundcloud.com/swageyph/yph-die-with-me

still runnin frat boy "u mad" jokes?

lame

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and you might find this post

this has almost nothing to do with music and everything to do with problems that you have with kweli for some reason. save that shit for somewhere else

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https://93millionmilesabove.blogspot.com/
https://rateyourmusic.com/~Kosa12

by a well known rapper in regards to critics of his music

please stop w/ the bullshit fam

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deserves this response *looks at the subject of the first post*....lmao you are ridiculous

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https://93millionmilesabove.blogspot.com/
https://rateyourmusic.com/~Kosa12

i was upset at the moment, i'll admit it, i jumped the gun in regards to my tone

by i still think it's a lame and contemptible thing for him to say, and i think that his idea that any art being put out for consumption is a "courageous act" is ludicrous and speaks to a certain strange worship that we have for "artists"

i LOVE art, man, particularly MUSIC...i value the ppl who make it but they are NOT above accountability and criticism and they are NOT entitled to more respect or appreciation than the rest of us bc they are artists.

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This tweet made you upset? Really?

I'm just trying to imagine getting upset by something like this.

and for that i am thankful

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nm

this is a direct response to an actual idea that this man put out into the world

before i EVER criticised him, he generalized about the failings and intentions of a large swath of ppl

i did not randomly attack him for having money, or selling out, or rapping on wack ass fake attempt at radio friendly beats, or having the same annoying ass flow he's been using since Quality

i went at him for this specific comment where HE ATTACKED OTHER PEOPLE (no names named, par for the course when he disses someone)

so its not HATE, or more precisely, its a raction to the HATE he put out there first

yall gon learn to start holding these rappin & yappin fools accountable & stop givin em passes bc of how u remember them holding the mic, the days of the tyranny of rapper dogma are done

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whenever you did these things to the least of my brothers you did them to me

nm

you got some sort of problem, slurpscientist?

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nm

boy I will fuck the dogshit out of you, remember that

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behind a keyboard was bad? NIGGA I'll work your ass out til next fucking month to the point you gonna hafta get yet another screenname. Pick your battles better son. Yee ain wan no problem with the likes of me. Now log OFF

let's keep it simple rodreleaser

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-Sig-

“Why didn’t you do this in your own god damn country?"

-All Stah's view on undocumented immigrants wanting to be treated like human beings.

that came out of nowhere, I'm not and never have been an alias or used one

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>that came out of nowhere, I'm not and never have been an
>alias or used one

inquiring minds want to know you fuck

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for starters. What else u want me to tell you that u already know?

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forever

this should be funny, make a dedicated thread about it

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I bet you do

i got ppl i love dearly that i don't fucking like so get off that shit

plus in art/music when you "hate" someone (aside from becoming a catch all defense to shield anyone from any kind of criticism, legit or not) its become a tired cliched way of inferring someone is "jealous" or envious or thinks they know what type of art the artist should make instead of what they actually do

NONE of which i am doing here, in fact i'm addressing (with anger, i'll grant that) a specific comment made in public by a public figure

i'm not one of yall "do whatever the rappers say" motherfuckers, i think for myself

and i've seen kweli be a pussy when criticising critics once too many times...

his whole thing is trying to stop "fans" from complaining about the "state of hip-hop" as if 1) he has the right to care what anyone thinks about hip-hop in general and 2) he's not willfully ignorant to the lack of balance at the top of the game

he got shitted on when he was a whiny "hater" MC, so he switched his steez up cause he didn't like being the outcast

i don't hate him for it, but don't call me a hater when i point shit out just b/c u don't like it

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slam her,and not in a good way. To be honest, all he said was some weak bathroom wisdom. The same shit I read in my fb feed ad nauseum. It's a defensive hurt ass thing to say. He shouldn't let his feelings show like that. I don't even know what this about anymore, I got a bit sidetracked and had to do a couple moves on a wack poster.

IMO what seems to be most important to him is representing for his people

i'm CERTAIN that he does community work and is involved as a positive influence in ppl's lives

BUT i think he has serious and fatal blindspots when it comes to accepting criticism of his art and instead of considering what ppl say or think he demonizes and marginalizes them bc he doesn't wanna face certain inconsistencies and hypocrisies in what he's preached over the years

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lol...this guy right here...too funny...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

The entire forum would consist of Pop verbally buggering Phil for all the stupid shit he says.

On second thought, I'd say it's a good idea.

-Sig-

“Why didn’t you do this in your own god damn country?"

-All Stah's view on undocumented immigrants wanting to be treated like human beings.

-Sig-

“Why didn’t you do this in your own god damn country?"

-All Stah's view on undocumented immigrants wanting to be treated like human beings.

i went about addressing this all wrong

let my anger cloud my judgment & all that good shit

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Good that you at least admit it man.

thats good

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