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DrasOne
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"R&b and Vulgarity"


  

          

Riddle me this: Why is new R&B trying to run neck and neck with the vulgarity of Hip Hop, every artist from the Dream to the Weekend have songs laced with the same hatred and misogyny as Lil Wayne and his ilk.
No love in the mainstream music anymore calling women bitches, talking about drugging chicks and the rampant use of the word Fu#kin and P#ssy..no soul all hatred.

Opinions?

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cuz bitches love that shit
May 28th 2013
1
/post.
May 28th 2013
2
Personally I'm waiting with hands clasped for a Mumford & Sons cut
May 28th 2013
3
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
May 31st 2013
23
Raunchy & Blunt
May 28th 2013
4
its indicative of the time we live in and what's in the culture.
May 28th 2013
5
I'd expect that sort of sonsensical shitology from you
May 28th 2013
9
How is that nonsensical?
May 29th 2013
15
      because it doesn't explain anything and acts as an excuse
Jun 02nd 2013
26
           Yep. Agreed.
Jun 03rd 2013
28
yea def... if by "the culture" you mean "stopped giving a shit entirely"
Jun 02nd 2013
27
I started to make a post about this.
May 28th 2013
6
Desperation
May 28th 2013
7
I almost made this post after listening to the Adrian Marcel mixtape
May 28th 2013
8
I approve using the word PUSSY
May 29th 2013
10
I'd prefer they didn't...
May 29th 2013
11
Only difference is instead of double entendres they tell you the real
May 29th 2013
12
I Remember When Pretty Ricky Came Out
May 29th 2013
13
weren't they targeted at young girls too?
May 31st 2013
21
      teenage girls, but yeah.
May 31st 2013
22
           that's what i meant
Jun 02nd 2013
25
and this is why R&B has been failing for the last 10-15 years...
May 29th 2013
14
the Dream really got nasty on his new release
May 30th 2013
16
Have never and will never like it
May 30th 2013
17
It is annoying. The-Dream makes R & B for dudes who hate R & B.
May 30th 2013
18
That's also why his audience is limited
May 30th 2013
20
too much cussin' and
May 30th 2013
19
RE: too much cussin' and
May 31st 2013
24
R.Kelly made it cool, that cockroach head turkey the dream
Jun 03rd 2013
29
marvin gaye, jackie wilson, johnny taylor,rick james, Mj,prince
Jun 03rd 2013
30
it's really pushed me away from it...
Jun 04th 2013
31

GROOVEPHI
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1. "cuz bitches love that shit"
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nm

  

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2. "/post."
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fuck you.

  

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Nodima
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3. "Personally I'm waiting with hands clasped for a Mumford & Sons cut"
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with the chorus "got my left hand on that booty, got my right hand on that pussy".


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23. "AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH"
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oh my god this is the funniest thing you have ever posted

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MISTA MONOTONE
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4. "Raunchy & Blunt"
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>Riddle me this: Why is new R&B trying to run neck and neck
>with the vulgarity of Hip Hop, every artist from the Dream to
>the Weekend have songs laced with the same hatred and misogyny
>as Lil Wayne and his ilk.
>No love in the mainstream music anymore calling women bitches,
>talking about drugging chicks and the rampant use of the word
>Fu#kin and P#ssy..no soul all hatred.
>
>Opinions?

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BrooklynWHAT
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5. "its indicative of the time we live in and what's in the culture."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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9. "I'd expect that sort of sonsensical shitology from you"
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Ashley Ayers
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15. "How is that nonsensical?"
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"We are ______, so _______ is goin' where we goin'" - Yasiin

  

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Garhart Poppwell
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26. "because it doesn't explain anything and acts as an excuse"
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this is the shug generation and helpless statements like that get a pass from people that don't want to do anything about anything

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The Wordsmith
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28. "Yep. Agreed."
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Since 1976

  

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DonWonJusuton
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27. "yea def... if by "the culture" you mean "stopped giving a shit entirely""
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the current culture is someone paying for a platform... and everyone else just buying into what they're fed.. right?

  

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The Wordsmith
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6. "I started to make a post about this."
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Something about too much raunch in r&b bothers me. I can tolerate a little bit but all that extra cussin' and vulgarity gets annoying to me. I hear enough cussin' in hip hop. There I can deal with it. I'm not trying to hear it all in my r&b too.



Since 1976

  

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Luke Cage
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7. "Desperation"
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R&B got desperate to compete with Hip Hop and it's edginess so you got all of these R&B thugs (which is a comical title all by itself) trying to be the singing version of Snoop. It was a joke when TQ and D.R.S. came out...now it's damn near the standard.

  

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Hitokiri
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8. "I almost made this post after listening to the Adrian Marcel mixtape"
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I really don't like my r&b singers to sounds like rappers.

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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

  

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tapedeck
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10. "I approve using the word PUSSY"
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Its sexy.

Check out NEW Soul music at: www.myspace.com/starbeing

Bumpin in the STEREO:
Gladys Knight&The Pips
Slave-Stone Jam
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Adrian Marcel-RS Presents..

  

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11. "I'd prefer they didn't..."
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...especially in the hook, I'm a need you to do better.
Random profanity in a verse, is a bit more tolerable, still
frowned upon though.

I understand, these young cats are raised in a time where vulgarity
is a bit more common in their music, but in the context of r&b it just
looks and sounds silly.

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Brotha Sun
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12. "Only difference is instead of double entendres they tell you the real"
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If you listen to most 70's soul music you can replace most of the lyrics with "pussy" or "dick"


Marvin Gaye - feel my dick inside

Minnie Riperton - Inside my pussy

Michael Henderson/Norman Connors - Valentine Fuck


I made it a game to throw vulgarity on all of my favorite soul songs.


I'm currently having a blast with Smokie Robinson's discography.

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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13. "I Remember When Pretty Ricky Came Out"
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I was shocked to hear so much cursing for an r&b group, they were like a hoodrat version of Jodeci, but I think many other young r&b artists followed suit just cause they probably felt like they had a street edge to their music now.

I think when r&b artists did curse the label would make the singers change the lyrics or just edit out them out even when it was a guest rapper on a song, but now being raunchy is back again like the days of Millie Jackson.


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21. "weren't they targeted at young girls too?"
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22. "teenage girls, but yeah."
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shit i remember when they came out i thought it was vulgar as hell. girls ate that shit UP though.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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25. "that's what i meant"
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I was in the 11th or 12th grade when "Grind On Me" came out and thought "They're marketing this to teenage girls?"




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14. "and this is why R&B has been failing for the last 10-15 years..."
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there's no love in it


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DrasOne
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16. "the Dream really got nasty on his new release"
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the mental picture of him doing any of the things that he sings about with whomever made me wish i had an eject button on a tape deck, so I could take it out and toss his wack ass tape into on coming traffic.

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17. "Have never and will never like it"
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Might be a double-standard or doesn't make logical sense, but I don't want to hear vulgarity in my singing.

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18. "It is annoying. The-Dream makes R & B for dudes who hate R & B."
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And women.

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20. "That's also why his audience is limited"
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R&B fans don't want to hear the explicit content in large doses.

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19. "too much cussin' and"
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too many mofos--male and female--who can't actually sing. I can't recall the last so called "r&b" album I bought...Maxwell's last one, maybe?

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24. "RE: too much cussin' and"
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>too many mofos--male and female--who can't actually sing. I
>can't recall the last so called "r&b" album I
>bought...Maxwell's last one, maybe?

Co sign!

  

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29. "R.Kelly made it cool, that cockroach head turkey the dream"
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needs to be gonged on the gong show because that cheetio and cracker jack no prize in the box non singing turkey sounds like a broke katt williams when he sings it.

R&B has always been blue nothing new.

Michael Jackson getting a girl pregant on the dance floor in the opening of "billie jean" is some scandelous writing if there ever was some and folks ate that up. no birth control on the floor in the round.

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

  

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mistermaxxx08
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30. "marvin gaye, jackie wilson, johnny taylor,rick james, Mj,prince"
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cameo, bar kays, prliament, isley brothers, curtis mayfield, leon haywood, millie jackson, barry white isacc hayes, ray parker jr, clarence carter all kept it freaky. and others nothing new under the sun

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

  

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BNueve
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31. "it's really pushed me away from it..."
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it's rare to find a good R&B release these days

  

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