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Bblock
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"anybody in here use ableton live?"


  

          

if so, i'm wonderin' if you can give me some pointers
i'm comin' from usin' logic
and i wanted to finally make use of it, since i've been sittin' on it for years
i have both ableton suite 8 and suite 9
i've been watchin' the youtube videos and whatever guides i can find online

but it's not very many hip hop sample based guides that are good
and easy to follow along

i'm basically wonderin', what's the easiest way to chop vinyl samples up, assign them to a drum pad, and manipulate them, triggerin' them with a drum pad?

i'm sure everybody has a different way, and i'm tryin' to find what works best for me.

thanks

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RE: anybody in here use ableton live?
May 04th 2013
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a little. ableton is confusing, cuz i go to trigger something
May 04th 2013
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      RE: a little. ableton is confusing, cuz i go to trigger something
May 04th 2013
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           my mpc 2000
May 04th 2013
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Videos on Live are hella entertaining and inspiring
May 04th 2013
3
lol, that's why I don't use it
May 04th 2013
4
Figure out how to use the "slice to MIDI" function
May 04th 2013
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thanks
May 05th 2013
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      There are a couple of tutorials for mimicking MPC chopping presets
May 05th 2013
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           good looking. it was helpful
May 06th 2013
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                little off topic here
May 06th 2013
11
yup. It's a beast. The trick is, it's just as simple as it looks
May 06th 2013
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these videos should be helpful
May 06th 2013
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they were very very helpful. thanks
May 07th 2013
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Maschine>>>>>>Abelton
May 07th 2013
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RE: Maschine>>>>>>Abelton
May 07th 2013
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Raytard
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Sat May-04-13 10:51 AM

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1. "RE: anybody in here use ableton live?"
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>i'm basically wonderin', what's the easiest way to chop vinyl
>samples up, assign them to a drum pad, and manipulate them,
>triggerin' them with a drum pad?

record sample onto audio track, double click it. At the bottom of the screen you will see the sample along with parameters on the left and the waveform on the right.

above the waveform there are yellow markers. these are to indicate moving points for your sample. You can lock them to the grid or turn that off and slide them around wherever. This is Live way of timestretching.

The parameters to the right adjust things like the warp (time stretch), pitch, loop, etc.

make or go to a midi track and add a drum rack. this will create a virtual MPC pad layout.

drag your sample to a pad and you're done!

note: drum rack lacks the ability to zoom in on a sample, and samples in Ableton work in a non destructive way, meaning you could be using only a few seconds of a longer sample, but unless you consolidate the portion you want drum rack will emport the entire sample highlighting only the region you dragged in.

Normally, I just stretch the sample and leave it there, then I add drums. I keep the MPC Renaissance, 2500, 2000xl, & Maschine if I wanna hit pads.

Hope this helps a little. HAPPY CHOPPING!!



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Bblock
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2. "a little. ableton is confusing, cuz i go to trigger something"
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and something else triggers along with it!
the lay out takes some getting used ot
i understand the scenes vs the arrangement view finally
but like, once i chop a sample, i don't really get how to use it
like once i get the warp markers to where i want to chop
i'm not sure how to sequence it up, or what to use to trigger it
the drum rack is a bit confusing

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Raytard
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5. "RE: a little. ableton is confusing, cuz i go to trigger something"
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>and something else triggers along with it!

is there another track armed to record? usually thats what that means.

>the lay out takes some getting used ot
>i understand the scenes vs the arrangement view finally
>but like, once i chop a sample, i don't really get how to use
>it
>like once i get the warp markers to where i want to chop
>i'm not sure how to sequence it up, or what to use to trigger
>it
>the drum rack is a bit confusing

what controller are you using to trigger drums?


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Bblock
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6. "my mpc 2000"
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3. "Videos on Live are hella entertaining and inspiring"
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But then when I turn my shit on, it's nothing like that.

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4. "lol, that's why I don't use it"
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>But then when I turn my shit on, it's nothing like that.


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dM
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7. "Figure out how to use the "slice to MIDI" function"
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That feature is clutch for chopping samples, especially if you're using an MPC type drum pad.

When I've got a sample, I just mark it up with warp points where I want the chops to be, then right click -> Slice to MIDI, and it maps everything directly onto a drum rack.

Way faster than chopping things up individually.

  

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8. "thanks"
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Mannii
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9. "There are a couple of tutorials for mimicking MPC chopping presets"
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so you can just make beats MPC style. I use an MPD 24 controller and set this up once and it worked pretty well. I think this is the tutorial I used, but it's been a while:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnW2nhxbwp0

  

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Bblock
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10. "good looking. it was helpful"
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i'm starting to understand it a bit more
some stuff it does automatically
which threw me off
wasn't used to that, havin' to do it myself
so it confused me
but i got it now

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diorama
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11. "little off topic here"
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but anyone else using their ipad for production? i think im done with using computers.. with apps like beatmaker2, alchemy synth, impaktor, dm1, ipolysix through audiobus into cubasis i think its really capable of some amazing things

  

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kayru99
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12. "yup. It's a beast. The trick is, it's just as simple as it looks"
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it's doing a lot of the work you want done automatically.

Here's a good joint on making it work like a MPC -chopping wise, at least:

http://www.digitalaudioworkshop.com/2011/11/make-ableton-chop-samples-like-mpc.html

Honestly, if you use samples at all, ableton should be a part of your toolkit

  

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Noah Truth
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13. "these videos should be helpful"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEehw8rgKwo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jeR4f42FLQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7ZpO5sRQGw

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Bblock
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14. "they were very very helpful. thanks"
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15. "Maschine>>>>>>Abelton "
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that is all

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Noah Truth
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16. "RE: Maschine>>>>>>Abelton "
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I've used both and would have to disagree if you also own/use an APC w/ the hacked firmware patch. Using the patch you can trigger samples using the 64 pads which makes it a powerful device. Sampling/chopping is definitely more streamlined in Maschine but sequencing, effects processing, and overall creative ability is more enhanced w/ Ableton IMO.

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