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Cineno
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"Talib Kweli - Prisoner of Conscious (5/7/2013)"


  

          

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/prisoner-conscious-deluxe/id636996538

Anyone else looking forward to this? I thought it was going to be called Prisoner of Consciousness?

Surprising no one seems to be discussing it. Or maybe people today only talk about album leaks for two days and then move on to find more disposable music.

He's got a new album coming out and people probably still asking him about that Black Star mixtape that's never coming out.

I haven't listened to anything yet. Hoping it will be good since I haven't been feeling his recent stuff too much.

  

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attack the block was fresh. excited for this
May 03rd 2013
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6.1 from P-Fork
May 03rd 2013
2
Not that I really care about pitchfork reviews
May 03rd 2013
5
      it's like he's obsessed w/ not being pigeonholed as "that guy"
May 04th 2013
10
           You sound old and really, really, mad.
May 05th 2013
12
                lol
May 06th 2013
15
                     I'll buy you a new backpack if you give it an honest listen.
May 06th 2013
17
                          no need for a backpack, could use a nice gym bag tho...
May 06th 2013
19
                               I'm 100% serious. But you have to promise to not be old and mad.
May 06th 2013
21
                                    tell me more about my taste OE
May 06th 2013
60
                                         I'll seriously consider it, just because I'm nice.
May 06th 2013
64
                                              Can I get in on this? I could use a new backpack.
May 07th 2013
87
                                                   I'm serious about this. I'll buy 3 nice backpacks for Lessonheads.
May 08th 2013
125
RE: Talib Kweli - Prisoner of Conscious (5/7/2013)
May 03rd 2013
3
RE: Talib Kweli - Prisoner of Conscious (5/7/2013)
May 03rd 2013
4
Didn't know Nelly was on it....damn it
May 03rd 2013
6
      Agreed on the identity tip...
May 03rd 2013
7
      well said
May 06th 2013
50
Heard a bunch of it
May 03rd 2013
8
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn
May 04th 2013
9
Listening to it now. Feeling it.
May 05th 2013
11
The Lesson has already decided that they don't like it.
May 05th 2013
13
RE: The Lesson has already decided that they don't like it.
May 06th 2013
14
I heard it. I think its great. But this is Lesson.
May 06th 2013
16
i'm not even gonna front just the title of the album alone
May 06th 2013
23
      That's because you're not the brightest crayon in the box.
May 06th 2013
25
           or i'm just tired of him whining about having to lay in
May 06th 2013
26
           Nah, I'm gonna go with my "not very bright" hypothesis. Thanks, though.
May 06th 2013
27
                words words words. a lot of words from a geek who has
May 06th 2013
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                     Hey, don't hate me because I'm beautiful.
May 06th 2013
35
           People who don't know how to correctly use "literally"
May 06th 2013
28
                You're also not the brightest star in the sky, literally
May 06th 2013
31
                     You sound sad. Fight with your imaginary girlfriend?
May 06th 2013
33
                          Nah, had a great time with your actual girlfriend, though. Literally.
May 06th 2013
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                               with 30,000+ posts, it's amazing you found time to be such a lady's man!
May 06th 2013
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                                    I'm a multitasker, literally.
May 06th 2013
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                                         Orbit Established: Prisoner of Loneliness
May 06th 2013
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                                              mrshow: Dejection Eternal
May 06th 2013
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                                                   Congrats on finding a word that rhymes with "reflection"
May 06th 2013
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                                                        Gimme a hug bro, I'm here for you
May 06th 2013
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                                                             As opposed to just responding immediately...
May 06th 2013
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                                                                  http://tinyurl.com/ccex8d4
May 06th 2013
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                                                                       RE: http://tinyurl.com/ccex8d4
May 06th 2013
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                                                                       Remember when an Onion article went over your head?
May 06th 2013
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                                                                       Your jokes are just too "smart" for the other kids I guess
May 06th 2013
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                                                                       Your jokes are just too "smart" for the other kids I guess
May 06th 2013
55
                                                                            Literally speaking, that's actually true.
May 06th 2013
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                                                                                 Im serious about you + Spidey
May 06th 2013
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                                                                                      Me and you have an Ebony and Ivory thing going on
May 06th 2013
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                                                                                           I think maybe actual human interaction isn't your "thing"...
May 07th 2013
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                                                                                           http://tinyurl.com/cah6zgg
May 07th 2013
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                                                                                           He is white...
May 07th 2013
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                                                                                           Know what the difference is between you and your wife?
May 07th 2013
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                                                                                           http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmNObROcBOo
May 07th 2013
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                                                                                           Seriously, though: I literally don't know what 'Of Mice and Men' means
May 07th 2013
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                                                                                           Maybe give this a shot:
May 07th 2013
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RE: Talib Kweli - Prisoner of Conscious (5/7/2013)
May 06th 2013
18
i like it. a lot.
May 06th 2013
20
Just found a stream, gonna give it a listen this afternoon
May 06th 2013
22
can't wait to hear this!
May 06th 2013
24
Loses a lot of steam in the second half
May 06th 2013
29
I'm really nervous about this record
May 06th 2013
30
RE: I'm really nervous about this record
May 07th 2013
81
Streaming (link)
May 06th 2013
37
I was ready to hate this... but it's not bad
May 06th 2013
39
Imagine how good it would have been if you wuzn't mad off jump
May 06th 2013
42
      hes f**kin hard working hey!
May 06th 2013
45
           Only insecure nerds dislike Kweli.
May 06th 2013
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                RE: Only insecure nerds dislike Kweli.
May 06th 2013
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                     dope reply, breh
May 06th 2013
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                     one of the worst arguments
May 06th 2013
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                          The Lesson is full of failed artists and/or failed music critics
May 06th 2013
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                               Lets wait
May 06th 2013
71
                                    Like I said: the Lesson already decided to dislike this album.
May 06th 2013
74
                                         When will your anti lesson thing end lol?
May 07th 2013
75
                                              Because I like to examine life through many lenses
May 07th 2013
78
                                                   although I agree with many of your points about artists themselves..
May 07th 2013
79
                                                        EXACTLY
May 07th 2013
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                                                             i think he is obsessed with being anti-hipster and he
May 07th 2013
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                                                                  it really isn't even CLOSE
May 07th 2013
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                                                                       He's just a lonely guy
May 07th 2013
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                                                                            I thought me and you were boys? What happened?
May 08th 2013
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                                                                                 I replaced you
May 08th 2013
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                                                                                      Who else is going to explain 'Of Men and Mice' or whatever?
May 08th 2013
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                                                                                           It's better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all
May 08th 2013
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                                                                                           Is that from 'Of Rats and Rice?' School me, smarter-than-me-man
May 08th 2013
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Production is solid. The rapping isn't.
May 06th 2013
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Thanks for the breakdown...
May 06th 2013
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You're welcome, Slow One
May 06th 2013
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      LOL...
May 06th 2013
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           Don't most white people look kinda pink?
May 06th 2013
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                See...you do have talent!
May 06th 2013
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                     One day, you'll touch a keyboard and not embarrass yourself*
May 06th 2013
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                          HEY BOTH OF YOU...i'm dying of laughter over here
May 07th 2013
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                               You're welcome
May 07th 2013
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                               RE: HEY BOTH OF YOU...i'm dying of laughter over here
May 07th 2013
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                                    lulz...you don't even understand what you're writing anymore
May 07th 2013
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                                         lol...and see...
May 07th 2013
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                                              ...said the guy who thought "swimming pools" was pro-binge drinking
May 07th 2013
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                                                   ...more nonsense...
May 07th 2013
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                                                        Too easy...
May 07th 2013
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                                                             GUYS
May 07th 2013
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                                                                  RE: GUYS
May 07th 2013
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                                                                       Agreed. My bowels have no move movements for you
May 07th 2013
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except that mos' catalog is superior
May 06th 2013
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      Mos is better but...
May 06th 2013
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      i haven't even listened to those
May 06th 2013
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      is it really though? I'm a huge fan of both, but
May 07th 2013
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           RE: is it really though? I'm a huge fan of both, but
May 07th 2013
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                I should clarify man
May 08th 2013
122
why is push thru slowed down?
May 07th 2013
80
NOPE..YALL NOT GONNA MAKE ME NOT LIKE THIS
May 07th 2013
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good cause anyone who dislikes something bc of others' opinions
May 07th 2013
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NOPE I'M NOT GONNA ARGUE WIT NO BOOTSY ASS MOFO
May 07th 2013
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      argue with yourself then u cornball ass motherfucker
May 07th 2013
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           well this esclated quickly
May 07th 2013
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                that "bootsy ass mofo " whatever the fuck it even means
May 07th 2013
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                     U didn't have to reply to me Bootsy
May 07th 2013
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                          PUBLIC MESSAGE BOARD U BITIN ASS MOTHERFUCKER
May 08th 2013
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I was not even gonna listen to this joint. But I fux with my...
May 07th 2013
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      I'm an unashamed Talib fan.
May 07th 2013
115
           yo, serious question, did u even buy this shit?
May 08th 2013
118
                Answer: Bought it.
May 08th 2013
119
                     word, at least you bought it yourself
May 08th 2013
121
                          Who hurt you boo?
May 08th 2013
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                               ALL THE PPL WHO TRIED TO BULLY ME INTO NOT LISTENING
May 08th 2013
124
                               My G, this shit got weird quickly. Talib brings 'em out.
May 08th 2013
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                                    lmao...yall livin' in the past...
May 08th 2013
131
                                         You're legitiately upset. This shit is mad entertaining B
May 08th 2013
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                                         Holy shit...lol. That's why mf's don't come into the Lesson.
May 08th 2013
135
                                         never confuse passion for anger ...
May 08th 2013
136
                                         If you wanna keep it 100. You replied to him.
May 08th 2013
134
                                              that's what ppl do on message boards sometimes, reply to ppl
May 08th 2013
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                                                   Nah, you're sad that nobody cares about your opinion
May 08th 2013
138
                                                        yup, seen this mo plenty
May 08th 2013
139
it's good.
May 07th 2013
89
RE: Talib Kweli - Prisoner of Conscious (5/7/2013)
May 07th 2013
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I'm liking it so far, but I realized what's been annoying me about him
May 08th 2013
117
so much internet fights in that post
May 08th 2013
120
I love it. Only 3 songs I don't like:
May 16th 2013
140
Liked the first 2/3rds. Felt like it run out of gas
May 16th 2013
141
this post got weird
May 16th 2013
142
Not bad at all, some nice basslines in this
May 22nd 2013
143
tbh i like gutter rainbows better
May 23rd 2013
144
Picked up this album today
Jun 22nd 2013
145
And hey yo Talib!
Jun 22nd 2013
146

JamesMichael
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1. "attack the block was fresh. excited for this"
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Leather in the Summer.

Silk in the Winter.



@JamesInStereo

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The DC Sniper
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2. "6.1 from P-Fork"
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How are you lames gonna blame this on Chief Keef and Waka Flocka?


http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17943-talib-kweli-prisoner-of-conscious/

Read deliberately, Prisoner of Conscious isnt that much less provocative a title in 2013 than Nas' Hip Hop Is Dead was in 2006. We're now a little more than three years removed from Waka's infamous "I'm not into being lyrical" comments, and about two and a half on from Flockaveli, a willfully boneheaded album approaching classic status these days. Talib Kweli, then, isn't cut out for these times. Songs like 1998's "Definition" and 2002's "Get By" still deserve all the adulation they inspire, but there's a reason the 37-year-old founding father of conscious-rap is now acknowledging his own antiquity. So when third song Turnt Up shows up on Kwelis fifth solo album, it's probably right to perceive it as an allegorical jailbreak.

And, unfortunately if predictably, Turnt Up marks the beginning of Prisoners issues. The song knows what it wants to be but doesnt have the wherewithal to be it. Its piano-lined, uppercutting pop aims for the radio, but, not even factoring in the club-unfriendliness of Kwelis nose-pinched delivery, I just cant imagine it fitting in next to Fuckin Problems or Bugatti. The track might be the only flail at relevancy here, but when guys like Kendrick and Miguel show up-- the former laying down one of his best guest verses of late on Push Thru, the latter as seductive as ever with his suitably come-hither-y hook for Come Here-- their appearances scan as misguided attempts at lending the album a vaguely populist hue. For a record that doesnt have a binding identity in the first place, thats a regrettably fragmenting problem.

As great as the jutting, soul-sampling production of 2002s Quality was, Kwelis saving grace has always been his well-intentioned lyricism, not his taste in beats. But Prisoner is marred by weak analogies (colder than Minnesota, buzz like Georgia Tech) and Kwelis bumpy writerliness (ornithology and onomatopoeia are just two less-than-melodious words used here), leading this to be his most underwhelming record yet word-for-word. And for every few lines that actually do stand up to some of Kwelis smarter work (Black Moses when the mic is on/ Thats why these rappers scatter like roaches when the light is on), theres a half-cocked concept, like this one from Hamster Wheel: How she runnin the streets but still standin still/ She needa get up off the hamster wheel.

Listening to Prisoner next to something like the new Chance the Rapper tape reveals the records biggest, most pervasive dilemma. Where Acid Rap is a seamless convergence of local and post-regional sounds, Prisoner takes on a bunch of things one by one without squeezing the most from any of them. Kwelis absolutely owned his lane when hes been committed to it but now he's jumping around from style to style with no destination in sight.

"Capitalism will never fail because socialism will always be there to bail it out." - Ralph Nader

  

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Cineno
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5. "Not that I really care about pitchfork reviews "
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Because I hate when critics say stuff like this:

>The song knows what it wants
>to be but doesnt have the wherewithal to be it.

But this is what I was worried about:

>Kwelis absolutely owned his lane when hes been committed to
>it but now he's jumping around from style to style with no
>destination in sight.

I don't want to put anyone in a box, but I do like having a general idea of what I'm looking to hear. These days I don't really know what to expect from Kweli. I respect an artist having range, but for some reason the way he and Common do it, it always seems forced like "I can make these songs too!"

The Roots style can change for album to album, but there's still and underlining consistency that I feel I can expect from them. Like I don't know what their new stuff will sound like at all, but I know it'll feel like "The Roots" to me, whatever that means. I don't really know what to expect from Common or Kweli these days.

  

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philpot
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10. "it's like he's obsessed w/ not being pigeonholed as "that guy""
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>But this is what I was worried about:
>
>>Kwelis absolutely owned his lane when hes been committed
>to
>>it but now he's jumping around from style to style with no
>>destination in sight.

his early rep was the whiny judgmental hip-hop purist (who, as is still the case, talks a lot about "wack" cats but never ever under any circumstances has the guts to name names)

i think he just is obsessed with not being the guy that he was judged to be when he first came in the game...he desperately doesn't want to be the "backpacker" that all the white kids like

and i don't know him personally so i don't know what's a real reflection (lol) of him as a person, but he just comes across as trying to serve many masters at once with his music, which makes his "old" fans not care and his "new" fans look at him as kind of just a novelty...

plus, he really just comes off as a prick so often it's hard to care...

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Orbit_Established
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12. "You sound old and really, really, mad. "
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>and i don't know him personally so i don't know what's a real
>reflection (lol) of him as a person, but he just comes across
>as trying to serve many masters at once with his music, which
>makes his "old" fans not care and his "new" fans look at him
>as kind of just a novelty...

You are troubled and in search of direction.

Good god.

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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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philpot
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15. "lol"
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i might could be considered mad if i actually *wanted* new talib kweli music, but since ive moved on to better, more quality & moving music i have no reason to have an emotion on his shit in any way...just was on my peanut gallery shit

and yeah, i'm getting old ... it happens to almost everyone eventually

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Orbit_Established
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17. "I'll buy you a new backpack if you give it an honest listen. "
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Mon May-06-13 07:42 AM by Orbit_Established

  

          


I'm being serious

You got paypal?

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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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philpot
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19. "no need for a backpack, could use a nice gym bag tho..."
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holla

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Orbit_Established
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21. "I'm 100% serious. But you have to promise to not be old and mad. "
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Because if you're not, then you'll like this album.

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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philpot
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60. "tell me more about my taste OE"
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tell me more about what i should and shouldn't like or expect to like

lol

tell you what...i hate downloading w/o paying any longer and i hate streaming albums as well...this is why i pre-judge what's worth my time and money nowadays...

when it drops, buy me a cd or vinyl, send me an inbox and i'll give you the address you can mail that and my new gymbag to...

deal?

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Orbit_Established
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64. "I'll seriously consider it, just because I'm nice. "
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Mon May-06-13 07:14 PM by Orbit_Established

  

          

>when it drops, buy me a cd or vinyl, send me an inbox and i'll
>give you the address you can mail that and my new gymbag
>to...
>
>deal?

I'm that kind of nice dude

Really am

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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Oak27
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87. "Can I get in on this? I could use a new backpack."
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What music do I have to pre-determine I like/dislike?

  

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Orbit_Established
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125. "I'm serious about this. I'll buy 3 nice backpacks for Lessonheads. "
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I might actually start a post about this.

The rules: you have to listen and not be mad.

I'll think of which albums soon.

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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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Ken36483
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3. "RE: Talib Kweli - Prisoner of Conscious (5/7/2013)"
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I was diggin Push Thru and had high hopes for this album but then I got worried when I heard Upper Echelon. I liked both Gutter Rainbows and Attack the Block, I just hope this doesn't turn into Beautiful Struggle 2.

  

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4. "RE: Talib Kweli - Prisoner of Conscious (5/7/2013)"
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I'm gonna withhold judgement, but I'm not hyped for this project...cat use to be a favorite, but has been slippin, on some Common type ish. Hopefully this project is a pleasant surprise...Nelly being listed as guest is not promising...LOL...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  

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Cineno
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6. "Didn't know Nelly was on it....damn it"
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I feel you on the Common comparison. Besides the corny metaphors, both are two of my favorites ever, but it's like they've tried too hard to get out their boxes that they don't have an identity to me anymore.

  

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spidey
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7. "Agreed on the identity tip..."
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...would have loved to see both of them go more toward the route of where The Roots have decided to take their talents...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  

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Amritsar
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50. "well said "
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>I feel you on the Common comparison. Besides the corny
>metaphors, both are two of my favorites ever, but it's like
>they've tried too hard to get out their boxes that they don't
>have an identity to me anymore.


Kweli has tried too hard since Quality Control

  

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13Rose
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8. "Heard a bunch of it"
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It made me throw my hands in the air in disgust. Some of the beats are good but the lyrics are cringe worthy.

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9. "yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn"
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that rza joint w/ busta sounded nice...but it sounds like kwe and bus recorded their verses about 10 years ago for the beautiful mixtape or something...they're dope but i'm suprised dudes that talented haven't found some new flows to rock or new content to put out there...

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11. "Listening to it now. Feeling it."
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"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

  

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13. "The Lesson has already decided that they don't like it. "
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n/m

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14. "RE: The Lesson has already decided that they don't like it. "
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just listening now.. i like it! will listen to this alot over the summer

  

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16. "I heard it. I think its great. But this is Lesson. "
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>just listening now.. i like it! will listen to this alot over
>the summer


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23. "i'm not even gonna front just the title of the album alone"
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turned me off.

www.mybabystayfresh.com

  

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25. "That's because you're not the brightest crayon in the box. "
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Its true.


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26. "or i'm just tired of him whining about having to lay in"
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the bed he made.
didn't say i wasn't going to listen to it though

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27. "Nah, I'm gonna go with my "not very bright" hypothesis. Thanks, though. "
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>the bed he made.
>didn't say i wasn't going to listen to it though

You're not going to listen. You're going to hate it
off cuff, because you already told me that you hated
it, even though you haven't listened to a single song.

I mean, the point about "the bed he made" isn't even
correct.

Like, nothing about you is smart or correct. Zero.


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32. "words words words. a lot of words from a geek who has"
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spent countless hours trolling against 'the lesson'
if being bright means being anything you i'll be dim, thanks.

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35. "Hey, don't hate me because I'm beautiful. "
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You the one mad at an album title.

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28. "People who don't know how to correctly use "literally""
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probably shouldn't question other people's intelligence.

  

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31. "You're also not the brightest star in the sky, literally"
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But you are the maddest mardigan in the lesson

Literally

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33. "You sound sad. Fight with your imaginary girlfriend?"
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34. "Nah, had a great time with your actual girlfriend, though. Literally. "
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: - )


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36. "with 30,000+ posts, it's amazing you found time to be such a lady's man!"
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Granted, a "great time" for you means mumbling a Simpsons quote to a girl and then running away.

  

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38. "I'm a multitasker, literally. "
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Not many are so gifted

I'd be mad if I was you too

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40. "Orbit Established: Prisoner of Loneliness"
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41. "mrshow: Dejection Eternal "
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Gimme a hug

Seriously


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44. "Congrats on finding a word that rhymes with "reflection""
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46. "Gimme a hug bro, I'm here for you"
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I'm serious


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48. "As opposed to just responding immediately..."
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why not take your time and write something actually funny?

  

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51. "http://tinyurl.com/ccex8d4"
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http://tinyurl.com/ccex8d4

  

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52. "RE: http://tinyurl.com/ccex8d4"
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lol...he really does need it, especially a white, eyes closed loving hug...he just needs to know someone cares, and that liking Hip Hop, while still being white is ok. If he could just slow down on trying to school brothers on ish all day, we might give him a pass...

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56. "Remember when an Onion article went over your head?"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2799138&mesg_id=2799138&listing_type=search#2800438


That being said, I'm glad you and OE found each other.

  

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54. "Your jokes are just too "smart" for the other kids I guess"
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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZmZiqTLj3pU/UHOXj9lp9eI/AAAAAAAABck/AOBwhPHMDAA/s1600/Eating+Alone.jpg

  

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55. "Your jokes are just too "smart" for the other kids I guess"
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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZmZiqTLj3pU/UHOXj9lp9eI/AAAAAAAABck/AOBwhPHMDAA/s1600/Eating+Alone.jpg

  

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69. "Literally speaking, that's actually true. "
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I mean, this is Okayplayer.

The only place where trailer trash thinks they stand
a fighting chance.


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72. "Im serious about you + Spidey"
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You guys have a real "Of Mice and Men" vibe going.

  

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73. "Me and you have an Ebony and Ivory thing going on"
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Literally

If you'd just give me a damn hug, bro

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76. "I think maybe actual human interaction isn't your "thing"..."
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maybe devote even more energy to online persona cultivation. You should ask Spidey to start laughing at your jokes!

  

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77. "http://tinyurl.com/cah6zgg "
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>maybe devote even more energy to online persona cultivation.
>You should ask Spidey to start laughing at your jokes!


http://tinyurl.com/cah6zgg <--- me and you, nobodies
momma and cousin too

Too late, bro

We're bffs for LYFE and you betcha bite a chip I mean LYFE

I'm dumping alllll my other bffs for you

I don't know what it is about you

you're just so witty

so intelligent

insightful

So insightful, I think you might be white, hence the
image in my head

and you like, really break down this rap game better
than anyone I know, like, seriously

literally even

what do you think of the status of break beats?

Like, what's your take?

  

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84. "He is white..."
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...and is the all knowing source for what is, and what is not great Hip Hop...simply submit, he knows all..lol...Once in awhile he will throw up some wack ish he calls that hot next ish...usually it's tired, retread type wanna be hard core stuff that most have heard before. Never anything that pushes boundaries, or is really creative. Basically a follower type personality, still very confused by his own love of anything Hip Hop, clashing with his ideals as a white man of what society expects him to be. Next will come something to the affect that I follow him, and that you and I somehow have some connection (wait for it, the witty, white tinged comment is coming soon, which usually has an undertone of racism, for example, something about herpes, which is a huge issue in the black/latino community-not to be joked about imo)...when actually, he is just so easy to figure out after years of just being on this board. Cat is mad, confused, and condescending...

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86. "Know what the difference is between you and your wife?"
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When dudes shit on her, at least she gets $200 bucks. You just get mad.

  

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85. "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmNObROcBOo"
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Keep trying. You'll get a laugh eventually.*

















































*Not really

  

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90. "Seriously, though: I literally don't know what 'Of Mice and Men' means "
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I don't get these smart references

School someone from lower on the evolutionary scale

I'm serious

Serious about us being BFFs too


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92. "Maybe give this a shot:"
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http://newyork.ucbtrainingcenter.com/

Plenty of hipster girls for you to be intimidated by in those classes too!

  

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18. "RE: Talib Kweli - Prisoner of Conscious (5/7/2013)"
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I like most songs on this album, there are also a few that I didn't like very much.

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20. "i like it. a lot."
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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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22. "Just found a stream, gonna give it a listen this afternoon"
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So far I've liked almost all of the release/leaked tracks.

  

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24. "can't wait to hear this!"
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29. "Loses a lot of steam in the second half"
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Starts off great though. Overall I like this a lot more than Gutter Rainbows. I think most of my favorite track were the ones that were already released/leaked. Other than those the first 2 tracks were great and I actually really liked the one with Nelly.

I'd throw it a 3 out of 5.

  

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30. "I'm really nervous about this record"
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I think if you cut 2-3 songs off of Eardrum, it would be a masterpiece. Liberation was also great.

But everything since then has been lukewarm. RPM was good, but not great. Admittedly, had it been billed as a Kweli album, I wouldn't have felt so let down by it.

Gutter Rainbows was very meh and Attack the Block was cool for a mixtape.


I'll give this new album a spin because Kweli is one of my all time favs, but I'm worried. I dont understand why an artist this late in his career is so caught up with labels. No artist wants to be told he should stick to a certain lane, but he's one of the best in that lane. Plus he's been able to make some pretty cool pop-rap songs "Get By" "I Try" "Hot Girl" "Soon the New Day" to name a few. This whole thing just feels very contrived, but this is all speculation becasue I haven't heard the album yet.

And I agree with the Common comparisons, but he has yet to put together something together as awful as UMC.

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81. "RE: I'm really nervous about this record"
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This is actually pretty good. Much better than Gutter Rainbows.

The Nelly song is pretty good, and Nelly delivers a pretty good verse.

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37. "Streaming (link)"
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http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/the-juice/1560702/talib-kweli-prisoner-of-conscious-exclusive-album-stream?utm_source=twitter

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39. "I was ready to hate this... but it's not bad"
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On par with Eardrum. It's no masterpiece, but who could expect that? This makes me want to hear more collaboration between him and Oh No.

  

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42. "Imagine how good it would have been if you wuzn't mad off jump"
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The world is a brighter place

Give it a chance

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45. "hes f**kin hard working hey!"
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in the last few days ive put all the random tracks i have on my hard drive along with official albums i got onto a playlist on itunes - over 300 tracks.. 21 albums.. majority of his music is good.. i cant think of anyone else who releases as much as he does. i was hoping for more from a kweli/seu jorge collabo.. maybe itll grow on me

  

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47. "Only insecure nerds dislike Kweli. "
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>in the last few days ive put all the random tracks i have on
>my hard drive along with official albums i got onto a playlist
>on itunes - over 300 tracks.. 21 albums.. majority of his
>music is good.. i cant think of anyone else who releases as
>much as he does. i was hoping for more from a kweli/seu jorge
>collabo.. maybe itll grow on me

The VAST majority of his product is good

His batting average is actually among the highest in the
game

This the Lesson, though


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49. "RE: Only insecure nerds dislike Kweli. "
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yeh but theres no point arguing with them about it mate.. not one of them could make a better album themselves i guarantee it

  

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53. "dope reply, breh"
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>yeh but theres no point arguing with them about it mate.. not
>one of them could make a better album themselves i guarantee
>it

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66. "one of the worst arguments"
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>yeh but theres no point arguing with them about it mate.. not
>one of them could make a better album themselves i guarantee
>it


yet it is frequently seen in music message boards. why?

yo bro you cant act so don't have a negative opinion on his acting
yo bro you cant make sandwiches well so don't get mad when your girl puts the shit you dont' like in yours

just horrible

that being said. i dug the last kweli album. eventually i will sit down and listen to this one

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70. "The Lesson is full of failed artists and/or failed music critics"
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So he's not entirely wrong

Plus, the anti-Kweli arguments are worse and deserve
more of your wrath

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71. "Lets wait"
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I don't want to argue about something I haven't heard yet, thats silly

But yes, I do not share the same opinion of the people who have not liked Kweli's past few albums. I have enjoyed most of his material, I think he has a pretty solid catalog. Kweli has only really horribly disapointed me one time: the recent Reflection Eternal album

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74. "Like I said: the Lesson already decided to dislike this album. "
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There is no way you can be objective.

Hate to break it to you, but its true.

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75. "When will your anti lesson thing end lol?"
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its probably a phase

if this place is so bad why not leave?

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78. "Because I like to examine life through many lenses"
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>its probably a phase
>
>if this place is so bad why not leave?


*rapid-fire snapping of fingers*


Give and take perspectives

Some earthly, some from the heavens

I'm more like a teacher than a reverend

Never preaching to my brethren



*snaps fingers, re-lights incense*



But this is Lesson, full of men that need mendin'


So when I scan and press send, I don't mean to offend


Just offering a hand to the man at the end


Ebonies and Ivories, maybe we can all be friends






































And maybe you won't be mad.


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79. "although I agree with many of your points about artists themselves.."
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You are often off base with your whole 'the lesson loves/hates this' thing

Very rarely do I see any consensus agreement to anything on here.

and this is on top of the fact that I think your lesson manifestos are simply off base to begin with.

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88. "EXACTLY"
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>Very rarely do I see any consensus agreement to anything on
>here.


but he will call you mad for pointing out facts like this lol

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91. "i think he is obsessed with being anti-hipster and he "
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equates okayplayer with hipster culture...though its not exactly that

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93. "it really isn't even CLOSE"
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but in his mind it is

and thats weird

I think it comes from a disconnection with actual reality, maybe he is too old

or maybe he is younger and just doesn't want to accept said reality lol

no idea

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94. "He's just a lonely guy"
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Cut him some slack.

  

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126. "I thought me and you were boys? What happened? "
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I was counting on having one friend

Don't jump ship

I need this


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127. "I replaced you "
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http://www.amazon.com/Simpsons-Complete-Guide-Favorite-Family/dp/B0006V3QAY/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1368044294&sr=1-2&keywords=simpsons+episode+guide

  

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128. "Who else is going to explain 'Of Men and Mice' or whatever? "
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: - (

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129. "It's better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all"
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In other words, you're a loser.

  

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133. "Is that from 'Of Rats and Rice?' School me, smarter-than-me-man"
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43. "Production is solid. The rapping isn't."
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Kudos for Kweli for keeping at it and not half-assing it like Mos with his music. Unfortunately, he's just not sounding good on most of these songs. He's dropping too many "dad jokes" here (see the Pearl Jam line). Should have cut this down to a decent EP.

  

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57. "Thanks for the breakdown..."
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...the white delegate has spoken, bow down darkies!

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  

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62. "You're welcome, Slow One"
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As always, thanks for the incorrect ellipsis usage.

  

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63. "LOL..."
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...duke is so white, he looks pink...but continue to teach us! What was your take on the Mos "Black on Both Sides" project?...was it black enough for you? And again, I ask, out of interest, what do you do for a living?

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  

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65. "Don't most white people look kinda pink?"
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you should have said "duke is so white, he's translucent."

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/translucent

All in all, I'm not much of a Black on Both Sides fan.

Per my occupation, I sell herpes medication over the black market to cheating wives. You got any new customers to refer to me?


>...duke is so white, he looks pink...but continue to teach
>us! What was your take on the Mos "Black on Both Sides"
>project?...was it black enough for you? And again, I ask, out
>of interest, what do you do for a living?

  

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67. "See...you do have talent!"
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You are a funny dude...combine that with a little drive, and you could escape the internet and actually do something productive besides trying to school BLACK people on primarily BLACK music in the condescending manner that you do...Peace and Love....

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  

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68. "One day, you'll touch a keyboard and not embarrass yourself*"
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*Not really.

Also, http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/keyboard

  

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99. "HEY BOTH OF YOU...i'm dying of laughter over here"
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and i needed that

god bless yall

  

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100. "You're welcome"
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I hope it was amusing to read as it was to write.

  

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102. "RE: HEY BOTH OF YOU...i'm dying of laughter over here"
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Glad we could help...Stay Black, it's the cool thing to do...or at least I think it's still all the rage...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  

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103. "lulz...you don't even understand what you're writing anymore"
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104. "lol...and see..."
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...it's not a diss to this brother...it's just a general statement. Stop being so insecure, we accept you for you. I feel no need to attack...calm down, relax...turn down the Slim Thug, loosen up the bandana, and try a little Common (he is still black, just not as angry, and you won't lose any thug points, no one will really know) There is another side to black music, you know this right???

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  

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105. "...said the guy who thought "swimming pools" was pro-binge drinking"
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107. "...more nonsense..."
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...you stay twisting what people say...it's funny, but to be expected...white men have been doing that for hundreds of years...carry on white chocolate...

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108. "Too easy..."
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2781287&mesg_id=2781287&listing_type=search#2781555

  

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109. "GUYS"
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get a room, jeez

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110. "RE: GUYS"
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Agreed, this needs to stop...but the only way we would get a room is if we were locked down, you know, like all those darkies are/should be...I would make duke a princess, he loves talking sideways over the net, it's easy...but in the real world, he would be church mouse status...

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111. "Agreed. My bowels have no move movements for you"
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I'll just leave you to your prison-rape fantasies.

  

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58. "except that mos' catalog is superior"
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>Kudos for Kweli for keeping at it and not half-assing it like
>Mos with his music.

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59. "Mos is better but..."
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those shitty freestyles of late make it seem like he doesn't really care anymore.

  

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61. "i haven't even listened to those"
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but when and if he drops a new album i'll be there

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101. "is it really though? I'm a huge fan of both, but"
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**Like, really huge fan. And still okay saying that, while many on here for some reason hate the very artists that brought us to the site (Com, Mos, Kwe, etc)

Anyway

Is Mos' catelog really better? Or even to meet you half way, is it so much better its not even close?

Because, off the top-

1. Train of Thought
2. Ecstatic
3. Blackstar
4. BOBS
5. Quality
6. Liberation
7. Eardrum
8. New Danger
9. Beautiful Struggle (this would be a lot higher had they trimmed the fat and kept that Killer Mike track)
10. Write About Now
11. RPM





12. True Magic


13. Gutter Rainbows


Maybe its about even, but I definitely don't think its a clear Mos Def victory. And I'm a stan of dude.

I feel like I'm forgetting one or two releases. I was also going to cheat and include that fist Beautiful Struggle mixtape that had some joints on it, but I won't.

I really do think that many people need to drop their grudge of Kweli. So he's a pr!ck online? Aren't most of us??



  

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106. "RE: is it really though? I'm a huge fan of both, but"
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>while
>many on here for some reason hate the very artists that
>brought us to the site (Com, Mos, Kwe, etc)

well, first, it's not hate...a lotta time has passed in lives & careers...personally i don't enjoy talib kweli music like i once did...AND THAT'S OK bc im actually NOT upset at what he does bc its HIS ART & he can & should do what he feels...that said i dont have to forcefeed myself the art bc i lived blackstar, RE & Quality...

>Anyway
>
>Is Mos' catelog really better? Or even to meet you half way,
>is it so much better its not even close?



>Because, off the top-
>
>1. Train of Thought
>2. Ecstatic
>3. Blackstar
>4. BOBS
>5. Quality
>6. Liberation
>7. Eardrum
>8. New Danger
>9. Beautiful Struggle (this would be a lot higher had they
>trimmed the fat and kept that Killer Mike track)
>10. Write About Now
>11. RPM
>
>

mos' catalog is better to me bc hes consistentw/ his sound & what hes tryna do...apart from RE, Liberation & Quality (& the beautiful mixtape) i dont see any compelling statements from talib, he makes albums full of songs, not albums in the sense of cohesive projects & WHEN HE DOES notice that there's typically a sidekick involved (Madlib, Mos, HITek, Kanye to an extent on Quality)

>
>
>12. True Magic
>

you dont know how i feel about this widely mocked & dismissed album...

>13. Gutter Rainbows
>
>
>Maybe its about even, but I definitely don't think its a clear
>Mos Def victory. And I'm a stan of dude.
>
>I feel like I'm forgetting one or two releases. I was also
>going to cheat and include that fist Beautiful Struggle
>mixtape that had some joints on it, but I won't.

loved that mixtape, played it tons

>I really do think that many people need to drop their grudge
>of Kweli. So he's a pr!ck online? Aren't most of us??
>

its not a grudge fam, i dont know the dude, but in interviews, online AND IN HIS RHYMES he comes across typically as smug, overly critical & dismissive of others and a fence rider not willing to commit to what he professes in his raps...also, he seems like a very smart dude & i feel he genuinely loves his people

>
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122. "I should clarify man"
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That initial comment wasn't aimed at you at all, was just a general statement on how **some** seem to approach him.

I don't think his recent output sees his older stuff at all either, I just don't think its as bad as some make it out to be.

I also think overall their catelogs are more even than even I thought.

  

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80. "why is push thru slowed down?"
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when it first game out it was faster
looks like it was slowed down to the tune of 45 seconds overall
sounds really lethargic now

ill be subbing out this version for sure

  

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82. "NOPE..YALL NOT GONNA MAKE ME NOT LIKE THIS"
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this shit flame.

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83. "good cause anyone who dislikes something bc of others' opinions"
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is weak minded & kind of sad/pitiful

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95. "NOPE I'M NOT GONNA ARGUE WIT NO BOOTSY ASS MOFO"
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ABOUT WHAT I SAID EITHER.

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96. "argue with yourself then u cornball ass motherfucker"
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wasnt nobody tryna argue w/ u anyway u sensitive bitch

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112. "well this esclated quickly"
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113. "that "bootsy ass mofo " whatever the fuck it even means"
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kinda pissed me off

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114. "U didn't have to reply to me Bootsy"
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@geahuwine

  

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116. "PUBLIC MESSAGE BOARD U BITIN ASS MOTHERFUCKER"
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97. "I was not even gonna listen to this joint. But I fux with my..."
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dude's opinion.

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115. "I'm an unashamed Talib fan. "
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i like it. Favela Love is my SHIT

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118. "yo, serious question, did u even buy this shit?"
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or u just bootlegging & spreading links around while claiming to be an unabashed fan of the dude ur stealing from?

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119. "Answer: Bought it. "
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What u got to say now? Now keep cryin u bitch ass muhfucka.

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121. "word, at least you bought it yourself"
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hopefully the folks you hooked up with a link will choose to buy it too, if they like it anyway...

you still a lame, generic, bitin' ass motherfucker though, buying a cd won't change that

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123. "Who hurt you boo?"
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@geahuwine

  

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124. "ALL THE PPL WHO TRIED TO BULLY ME INTO NOT LISTENING"
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TO THE NEW TALIB KWELI ALBUM

LEAVE KWELI ALONE!!!!!!!!!



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130. "My G, this shit got weird quickly. Talib brings 'em out. "
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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131. "lmao...yall livin' in the past..."
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the days where u could intimidate folks from speaking their minds w/ vague empty accusations of being haters are DONE, my lower case g

yall a little too sensitive and note that it was UR BOY who came in thos post on some anti shit, whinin in all caps abt other ppls opinions

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132. "You're legitiately upset. This shit is mad entertaining B"
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This good

Keep it going

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135. "Holy shit...lol. That's why mf's don't come into the Lesson."
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136. "never confuse passion for anger ... "
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and always remember that only children get enjoyment put of making ppl mad

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134. "If you wanna keep it 100. You replied to him. "
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And now you're replying to me.

So that's 2 instances where you're trying to engage cats that don't care about your opinion.

Now, nobody is trying to intimidate you or punk you or any of that.

What it does sound like, is you're bringing your own shit into this conversation.

If you got picked on when you were little or now, shit got nothing to do with me.

I just came in here to see what's up with the Talib album.

"I'm sorry if I made you sad." (c) Dame

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137. "that's what ppl do on message boards sometimes, reply to ppl"
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in this case i replied to this loser's clear response to anyone who dared say anything negative about his boo talib's music...i was involved in this discussion so his post WAS directed at me amongst others, albeit minus the balls of responding directly

weak, bitchmade tactic w/ the intent of negating any criticism as just "lesson hate"

i called him on it, cause there's no reason not to esp. when ive seen him post enough to know his online persona is one of a hoe ass dude, a biter & a follower...

>And now you're replying to me.
>
>So that's 2 instances where you're trying to engage cats that
>don't care about your opinion.

nah, my lower case g, you passively agressively came at me w/o replying directly, now trying to hide the hand u threw the stone w/

i dont know u but that's hoe ass, bitchmade, passive agressive posting at its finest

>Now, nobody is trying to intimidate you or punk you or any of
>that.
>
>What it does sound like, is you're bringing your own shit into
>this conversation.
>
>If you got picked on when you were little or now, shit got
>nothing to do with me.
>
>I just came in here to see what's up with the Talib album.

then why u posting about how kweli "brings em out" instead of the album my lowercase g?

u lying even to urself??



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ditto

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138. "Nah, you're sad that nobody cares about your opinion "
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>in this case i replied to this loser's clear response to
>anyone who dared say anything negative about his boo talib's
>music...i was involved in this discussion so his post WAS
>directed at me amongst others, albeit minus the balls of
>responding directly
>

I doubt Geah was directly talking to you or challenging you. He might very well be like me and not know shit about you.

His statement was about liking the album and nobody being able to sway him from that stance.

>weak, bitchmade tactic w/ the intent of negating any criticism
>as just "lesson hate"
>
>i called him on it, cause there's no reason not to esp. when
>ive seen him post enough to know his online persona is one of
>a hoe ass dude, a biter & a follower...

You filling another man on a message board gauging his posting patterns? Lol...c'mon.


>>And now you're replying to me.
>>
>>So that's 2 instances where you're trying to engage cats
>that
>>don't care about your opinion.
>
>nah, my lower case g, you passively agressively came at me w/o
>replying directly, now trying to hide the hand u threw the
>stone w/

I was hollering at Geah YOU butted in on some "ooooh I wanna be involved" shit. Nobody wants to involve you though. And thus is making you sad.


>i dont know u but that's hoe ass, bitchmade, passive agressive
>posting at its finest
>
>>Now, nobody is trying to intimidate you or punk you or any
>of
>>that.
>>
>>What it does sound like, is you're bringing your own shit
>into
>>this conversation.
>>
>>If you got picked on when you were little or now, shit got
>>nothing to do with me.
>>
>>I just came in here to see what's up with the Talib album.
>
>then why u posting about how kweli "brings em out" instead of
>the album my lowercase g?
>

Cuz Talib makes cornballs extra mad for some reason which is shown by your heavy interference with others talking about the album.

If you don't fuck with the album, cool. Say what you gotta say and chill. It's only Okayplayer. If somebody doesn't fuck with you, then allow them to not fuck with you.

Lol...I don't wanna build with you on this album, so be out.

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139. "yup, seen this mo plenty"
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passive aggressive stone throw

hidden hands & denial

deflection of blame to opposing party



thanks for the verification, my lowercase g...

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89. "it's good. "
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https://twitter.com/onnextlevel

  

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98. "RE: Talib Kweli - Prisoner of Conscious (5/7/2013)"
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Six tracks in and I like what I hear so far. I like Kweli's flexibility over different types of beats.

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117. "I'm liking it so far, but I realized what's been annoying me about him"
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I bought it, unheard. I hadn't listened to any singles, leaks, etc. so it's all new to me.

So far I'm liking it. But I have to sit through it some more. I listened at the gym which isn't really a fair listen.

I realized what's been annoying me about him. I feel like no matter my mood, I used to be able to play his stuff and enjoy it.

But now, with his seemingly forced identity/trend hoping, he may make good stuff, but I'm not always in the mood to hear it.

"Quality" had a good balance of what I like from him. Conscious stuff, straight spitting stuff, and a little R&B sounding stuff to balance it out. "Eardrum" too to an extent.

That's not a knock on his current output, just my personal tastes. Coming off a bad break up I'm not trying to hear all his R&B stuff right now lol.

It's like when you're chasing styles, you end up doing too much, and your music becomes disposable because it's only relevant to certain situations.

For example, I can like club music when I'm in a club. But I don't listen to the radio because when I'm not in a club I don't want to hear that.

If I felt like dancing, some of his recent stuff would be dope. But when I just have on my headphones walking around NYC, I'm looking for something I can relate to which he used to make more of.

Again, that doesn't mean his recent stuff isn't good. I'm just realizing it's not always for me at this point in my life. His older stuff I felt like I could throw on no matter what I was doing. Still one of my favorite MCs though.

  

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120. "so much internet fights in that post"
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I've only heard Come Here live @Fallon with Bilal =, thought it sounded good

  

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140. "I love it. Only 3 songs I don't like:"
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the one with Nelly
the one with Marsha
Upper Echelon

Other than that, this album is VERY solid.

Human Mic
Turnt Up
Come Here
High Life
Hamster Wheel
Rocket Ships
Outstanding

All dope. Most of these songs will work well in his live show.

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141. "Liked the first 2/3rds. Felt like it run out of gas"
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Didn't really the last four tracks at all. A lot of the stuff before that was pretty damn good. Overall, not as good as Gutter Rainbows, and probably "Eardrum." But certainly nothing to be ashamed of.

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142. "this post got weird"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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143. "Not bad at all, some nice basslines in this"
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Love the RZA joint. Might have been even better if he cut a track or two, thought it dragged towards the end, but overall it's a good listen.

Also gotta give him props for the album booklet, that thing is THICK.

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144. "tbh i like gutter rainbows better"
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though this one still has some dope cuts. it kinda dissapointed me.....i'd give it like 6-6.5/10

things i loved: "high life" "favela love" "rocket ships"

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145. "Picked up this album today"
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And I must say that I'm disappointed at the reception that its receiving on here.

I was looking at the "1st half" post and some of the bullshit people were posting in there was sad while this album was noticeably absent.

The only bad song on here is Upper Echelon.

I really don't see Kweli trying to please everyone at all. This is a very soulful hip-hop album and it doesn't accomplish that by sampling soul records.

The album starts off strong as hell from 1-5.

Push Thru with Knedrick is dope.

Hamster Wheel is excellent.

RZA comes through hard.

The Nelly collabo is nice.

The Seu Jorge feature is perfectly sequenced.

And the closer is an actual closer.

Production is right throughout.

Songwriting is strong but I do get the complaint about some of the borderline wack punch lines that Kweli and Com are know to do at times.

The packaging of the album is real nice as well. I'm assuming most people didn't purchase the physical album though. Much more thorough piece of art than Gutter Rainbows was.

I will say this though, this post was just yet another disaster due to the completely ignorant OE who leads a sad existence of a life.

  

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146. "And hey yo Talib!"
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If you want to do a remix to that Miguel joint, I've had a verse that I've been waiting to use that couldn't line up any better!!

I know it will never happen but shit, throwing it out there lol.

  

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