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nativesun07
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"What if "The Firm" was just Nas, AZ, and Dre on production"


  

          

we would have that Nas x AZ project that will never happen - and we would have another fully produced Dre album

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I'd want a 3rd emcee as a buffer 'tween dem two.
Apr 11th 2013
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You mean back then? Results woulda been the same to me.
Apr 11th 2013
2
Right?
Apr 11th 2013
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Word.
Apr 11th 2013
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      RE: Word.
Apr 11th 2013
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      AZ killed that shit to me
Apr 11th 2013
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           This is it right here.
Apr 11th 2013
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yeah i agree the problem wasnt the lineup it just was unmagical
Apr 12th 2013
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      LOL it's like blaming role/bench players for a loss
Apr 14th 2013
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           Lol
Apr 14th 2013
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A whole album of that shit wouldn't have worked
Apr 11th 2013
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What if "The Firm" was just Nas, AZ, & Cormega...
Apr 12th 2013
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^^^yes
Apr 12th 2013
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yep when Cormega got cut I knew it would be some bull
Apr 14th 2013
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Dre was the problem.
Apr 12th 2013
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Trackmasters had some turds on there too
Apr 12th 2013
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The album would have never came out
Apr 12th 2013
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AHHHHHH.. what up Nas!!! AHHHHH what up AZ!!!!!
Apr 12th 2013
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lofl. nice
Apr 12th 2013
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It would have taken 3 years to record....
Apr 14th 2013
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1. "I'd want a 3rd emcee as a buffer 'tween dem two."
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Also, as opposed to Dre, I'd take "Hell on Earth"-era Havoc on the
boards for the win.



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-DJ R-Tistic-
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2. "You mean back then? Results woulda been the same to me."
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YaBoy...Holla@ME
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4. "Right?"
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The lackluster Dre production was the major downfall of the album imo. Lyrically the album was kinda weak too, but I'd argue it was the production that didn't spur the MC's to rap better

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5. "Word."
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The album's got some moments but considering the immense talent involved, it is still a major disappointment.

Dre was clearly unfocused likely because of all the post-Death Row turmoil and shit which was still fresh. Nas has openly admitted that he was hella unfocused on rap at the time so he came mostly lazy which is unfortunate. Foxxy is what she is. AZ and Nature were whatever and I can't really explain why.

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YaBoy...Holla@ME
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6. "RE: Word."
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>The album's got some moments but considering the immense
>talent involved, it is still a major disappointment.
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>Dre was clearly unfocused likely because of all the post-Death
>Row turmoil and shit which was still fresh. Nas has openly
>admitted that he was hella unfocused on rap at the time so he
>came mostly lazy which is unfortunate. Foxxy is what she is.
>AZ and Nature were whatever and I can't really explain why.

Cormega not being involved was criminal too

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7. "AZ killed that shit to me"
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The issue with the album is the lack of cohesion between the group.

Nas and AZ are only on like 5 songs together.

Nature has a solo and a song with just Dre.

Foxy has a solo.

Wizard has a solo (although that shit was dope).

Nas and Foxy had a song together.

Nore and Canibus were focal points of their respective tracks.

AZ had the closer with Half-A-Mil (r.i.p.)

I knew from the moment I opened the cd and read through the cover on the walk back from the record store that the album was going to be a disappointment.

Regardless though, the album gave us Phone Tap and Executive Decisions.

  

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8. "This is it right here."
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>The issue with the album is the lack of cohesion between the
>group.

Agreed. It was clear that the "concept" they were going for was lost when they couldn't even get everyone on the same page.

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11. "yeah i agree the problem wasnt the lineup it just was unmagical "
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im kind of glad it WAS how it was
cause if it were just Nas.AZ, and Dre and it was weak
it would have hurt my soul

  

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17. "LOL it's like blaming role/bench players for a loss"
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18. "Lol"
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No matter what way you look at it though its Dre and Nas' fault.

They were the two biggest stars of the album and they seemed to just let it happen.

  

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3. "A whole album of that shit wouldn't have worked"
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it would've sold in that era, for sure, but the album wouldn't have been that great because Dre tends to beat a horse to death thematically over an album

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9. "What if "The Firm" was just Nas, AZ, & Cormega..."
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...with Trackmasters, Havoc, & Premier on production, now that would've been dope.


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15. "^^^yes"
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20. "yep when Cormega got cut I knew it would be some bull"
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10. "Dre was the problem."
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the production was horrendous. I thought Nature shined the most on that album and Foxxy wass one of the dopest females rappers ever back then. Even though Nature shined and went in on that album the question remains what if Cormega was there as he was an OG member.

  

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12. "Trackmasters had some turds on there too"
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don't know how they escaped some blame.

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13. "The album would have never came out"
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The good doctor's not exactly known for finishing projects.


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14. "AHHHHHH.. what up Nas!!! AHHHHH what up AZ!!!!!"
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16. "lofl. nice"
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19. "It would have taken 3 years to record...."
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and still never dropped.

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