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Reuben
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"Ego projection and the art of today"


  

          

listen to this gorgeous verse from raekwon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIyNTjANZb8

Ay yo, movin' on these niggas like they old soul, bro
You know how we go, we go shift 'em out like paleco
Fine, proteges off top connectin' like a buildin'
Four dollar whylin' niggas buildin', savin' the children
Come on now, check out the view like a oceanfront
Slow motion in cunt, takin' what we want
You know a kid asiatic, holdin' power like a craftmatic
You like your fish fried or battered, that day he ratted
Check out the movies from guyana, just eatin' in atlanta
Makin' some pirate moves out of savannah
Yeah, rock them niggas like jewelry
Arabics movin' blow like aerobics
That's when his nose itch, yeah
That means it's all in effect
I'm hittin' you, I'm hittin' buddha
Island bermuda, send that twenty-shot ruger
Continue to slam and mend you like a venue
Get all up in you, oh yeah your friend too, respect wu
Yeah, keep the faggot niggas watery
Rhyme for rich niggas who supported me, shorty pussy extorted me
So it's a science now, rza, cuttin' they pockets like scissors
Cindafella found him a wally slipper
Splashin' ends in the glass benz in nevada
Flashin' gems, eight-and-a-half tim state robber
All my life been on some foul shit besides kidnap a child shit
Get on some foul and proud shit
Cheatin' many koreans bein' all that I can be an'
Put down on thirty keys an' get to fleein'
Light up a tree an'
Don't be breezin' like a blowdryer
Yo, you's a liar like jeremiah gamin' on the flyer
Yo, but buryin' niggas is carryin'
Thug drug marryin', hittin' marion off at the clarion
All my spanish niggas love us
We movin' like rush ya, bone crush ya
At the flick, stick to usher
Broke niggas, spot 'em like cascade
In the street masquerade
Faster blade


check the narrative and structure
who is he talking to?

its my contention he is in a dialogue with himself and projecting his ego outwards, using rhymes to create a vision of what he wishes himself to be.


but now a days kids have the internet eg facebook twitter tumblr keek etc to project a constructed ideal of themselves

ad so all that energy that would have been spent creating brilliant art is no wasted on tumblr colleges ad facek book likes


DIIIIIISSSSSSSCCCCCCUUUUUUSSSSS

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a nubian drunk an high btw.
Apr 10th 2013
1
is it really worth discussion?
Apr 10th 2013
2
dig deeper into the point he's making and maybe?
Apr 10th 2013
3
will to consciousness.
Apr 11th 2013
6
I think he's coming at this post from a different angle
Apr 11th 2013
7
      ah ok
Apr 11th 2013
8
i was going to
Apr 10th 2013
4
dude he hardly raps in his albums
Apr 12th 2013
12
      i know it may sound strange to y'all but we are the limitless
Apr 12th 2013
14
RE: Ego projection and the art of today
Apr 10th 2013
5
Is there an example of a recent artist doing something like this?
Apr 11th 2013
9
possibly greg enemy (link)
Apr 11th 2013
10
Elucid
Apr 11th 2013
11
Danny Brown and Freddie Gibbs, even Yelawolf
Apr 12th 2013
13
      I was thinking of Danny Brown
Apr 12th 2013
15
another example
Apr 21st 2013
16
i think a more disturbing effect of social media is
Apr 21st 2013
17
^
May 03rd 2013
19
Camp Lo - Luchini (aka this is it)
May 03rd 2013
18
people really don't have a clue about what i'm getting at or
May 14th 2013
20

Reuben
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Wed Apr-10-13 06:29 PM

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1. "a nubian drunk an high btw."
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When discourse of Blackness is not connected to efforts to promote collective black self determinism
it becomes simply another recourse appropriated by the colonizer

http://hardboiledbabesanddarkchocolate.tumblr.co

  

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DolphinTeef
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Wed Apr-10-13 08:46 PM

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2. "is it really worth discussion?"
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there's been an influx of new young rappers (Underachievers, Tyler/Earl, Joey, etc) who are actually spittin'.

AND they are getting supported. So is it necessary to discuss the other young cats getting <4K views talking about the usual shit?

  

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imcvspl
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3. "dig deeper into the point he's making and maybe?"
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Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." © Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

  

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Reuben
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6. "will to consciousness."
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When discourse of Blackness is not connected to efforts to promote collective black self determinism
it becomes simply another recourse appropriated by the colonizer

http://hardboiledbabesanddarkchocolate.tumblr.co

  

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Dr Claw
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Thu Apr-11-13 07:59 AM

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7. "I think he's coming at this post from a different angle"
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not so much that they're spittin'

but why certain elements aren't may not be present in today's art.

b/w Reuben's sig might be the best thing I read this week

  

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DolphinTeef
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8. "ah ok"
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imcvspl
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4. "i was going to"
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make a post about how there's no incentive to be the best rapper ever. like none at all. it was inpsired by zeroh's new video... in which he, one of the better rappers out right now, on his first video (i think), decides not to rap at all.


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Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." © Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

  

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astralblak
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12. "dude he hardly raps in his albums"
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also i believe, HE FEELS HE's "DEEP" and the laymen just don't understand

that video and beat, shit even his crooning is dope

  

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Reuben
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14. "i know it may sound strange to y'all but we are the limitless"
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>also i believe, HE FEELS HE's "DEEP" and the laymen just
>don't understand
>

_______________________________________
When discourse of Blackness is not connected to efforts to promote collective black self determinism
it becomes simply another recourse appropriated by the colonizer

http://hardboiledbabesanddarkchocolate.tumblr.co

  

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multsanta
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Wed Apr-10-13 10:19 PM

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5. "RE: Ego projection and the art of today"
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>ad so all that energy that would have been spent creating
>brilliant art is no wasted on tumblr colleges ad facek book
>likes

you can create brilliant art on tumblr and facebook too

  

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Dr Claw
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Thu Apr-11-13 11:56 AM

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9. "Is there an example of a recent artist doing something like this?"
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I always thought that was Rae's strength. His words didn't always seem to make sense on the surface, but I realize that each line was like painting that image of whatever it was he was trying to express...

  

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Reuben
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10. "possibly greg enemy (link)"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjgRe0y4SWQ

but it seems to 'studied' and 'unnatural' to me

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When discourse of Blackness is not connected to efforts to promote collective black self determinism
it becomes simply another recourse appropriated by the colonizer

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11. "Elucid"
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█▆▇▅▇█▇▆▄▁▃
Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." © Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

  

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astralblak
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13. "Danny Brown and Freddie Gibbs, even Yelawolf"
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even though they're "new" they're kind of from that 90s school

  

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Dr Claw
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15. "I was thinking of Danny Brown"
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He and A$AP are almost like a new Red and Meth.

  

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Reuben
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16. "another example"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rua2UR8xrGM

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it becomes simply another recourse appropriated by the colonizer

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chinyre
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17. "i think a more disturbing effect of social media is"
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that everybody's projections start melding together and becoming the same. People start aspiring to things that are not in their nature because of social media manipulation.

  

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Reuben
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19. "^"
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When discourse of Blackness is not connected to efforts to promote collective black self determinism
it becomes simply another recourse appropriated by the colonizer

http://hardboiledbabesanddarkchocolate.tumblr.co

  

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Reuben
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18. "Camp Lo - Luchini (aka this is it)"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXyFYNiV-9I

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When discourse of Blackness is not connected to efforts to promote collective black self determinism
it becomes simply another recourse appropriated by the colonizer

http://hardboiledbabesanddarkchocolate.tumblr.co

  

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Reuben
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20. "people really don't have a clue about what i'm getting at or"
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or is it just boring?

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When discourse of Blackness is not connected to efforts to promote collective black self determinism
it becomes simply another recourse appropriated by the colonizer

http://hardboiledbabesanddarkchocolate.tumblr.co

  

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