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"Let the cock guzzling begin. M B V 9.1 @ Pitchfork (link)"


  

          

Is the vinyl package worth the price?

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17726-mbv/

My Bloody Valentine
mbv
self-released; 2013
By Mark Richardson; February 6, 2013

"When can we hear some new material?," someone asked Kevin Shields in an AOL chat interview published by the San Francisco zine Cool Beans!. "Definitely sometime this year or I'm dead..." he answered, later driving the point home with, "I really am dead if I don't get my record out this year. Nobody's threatening me, BTW I just have to."
That chat took place exactly 15 years ago tomorrow and Kevin Shields is still alive. And now, almost 22 years after My Bloody Valentine's last album, Loveless, we finally have that record. For those of us whose relationship to music and maybe even the act of hearing has been changed by Loveless, it's hard to believe. I'd grown comfortable with the idea that there would never be another My Bloody Valentine album. Even as recently as two months ago, I figured it would never happen. "But he said it was mastered," people said to me. The last time a master of an MBV album was completed it took four years for it to come out. And that was music that had already been released. An alleged master of a new release? Plenty of time to pull the plug. But no, it happened, by surprise, last Saturday night. And many 403 errors later, we finally have this thing on our hard drives. mbv. 2013. This Is Our Bloody Valentine.

Like a few people I know, I was initially afraid to listen, but there was no need to be. My Bloody Valentine have taken the precise toolkit of Loveless-- layered Fender Jaguar guitars made woozy through pedals and tremolo, hushed androgynous vocals way down in the mix-- and made another album with it, one that is stranger and darker and even harder to pin down. Where Loveless felt effortless, mbv strains, pushing at its boundaries with a sense of pensive gloom. If the guy spending all those years in the studio felt trapped by the experience, like the walls might be closing in and that he was dead if he didn't finish, the music here reflects it. mbv is an album of density with very little air or light. But it doesn't forgo the human touches that have made this band so special.

The nine-song mbv can be divided into thirds and the first three-song section, consisting of "She Found Now", "Only Tomorrow", and "Who Sees You", finds Shields exploring the untapped textural possibilities of the guitar. The last several years have been bad ones for the instrument. In independent music circles, the guitar has become synonymous with regression, a symbol used to evoke something from the past. And that might seem at first equally true here, since the tone of Shields' guitar is so clearly connected to the sounds he pioneered two decades ago. But no one believes more deeply than Kevin Shields in the expressive power of the processed guitar, and the music here turns out to be more about feeling than style.

"She Found Now" is an opener of daring subtlety, a ballad in the vein of "Sometimes" that consists mostly of deep strumming and Shields' singing in a tone near a whisper. There's a bit of percussion, a few more layers of distortion, but no announcement of anything earth-shattering or even particularly different. It's My Bloody Valentine making the kind of noises they invented and perfected. As the chords cycle through in the following "Only Tomorrow", Shields sets up a situation where the repetition and familiarity lulls you into a kind of trance and small gestures hit with great force. On "Only Tomorrow" that spine-tingling moment is a dead simple screeching high-end refrain that repeats toward the end, while on the following "Who Sees You", it's a section halfway through where a rush of trebly chords coats the entire song in another layer of textured fuzz. When it comes to Shields and guitars, the small details do a tremendous amount of work.

The second trio of songs feature the lead vocals of My Bloody Valentine singer/guitarist Bilinda Butcher. The push and pull of her singing next to Shields' is, along with the wavy "glide guitar" effect, My Bloody Valentine's other defining characteristic. Their voices are the essence of the the band's strangely androgynous and non-specific sensuality. "Is This and Yes" is just Butcher's voice and an unusual organ pattern that hangs in space at the end of the progression and never resolves itself; "New You" is the only track on the record that sounds even remotely like a single, and it shows that Shields' melodic impulses have not left him.

In another sense, "New You" points out how much has changed since MBV last released a full-length. In 1991, they were still a pop band, the kind that made videos and appeared on magazine covers and were on a fashionable record label. As such, there was at least some pressure for them to fit in, for their music to have context in the popular music landscape. So they released singles and probably hoped they'd become hits. Even if "Soon" had, as Brian Eno stated at the time, set a "new standard," that didn't change that fact that it was in fact still pop. But those days are gone. My Bloody Valentine fit in exactly nowhere and the commercial expectations of a release like mbv are minimal. Whatever the cause, mbv is the weirdest album My Bloody Valentine have made by some margin. Some of the record's otherworldly quality is up to frequency range. There's very little on this album in the treble range but there's endless detail in the bass and mid, which makes the record feel more closed in and insular. But some of it is in the arc of the record.

Through the 1990s Kevin Shields often talked about jungle, what it meant to him, and how some of the ideas behind it were making their way into a new My Bloody Valentine album. He was not alone in this, but mixing drum'n'bass' whooshing walls of percussion with oceanic shoegaze seemed a natural pairing (it was so natural, in fact, that artists like Third Eye Foundation beat Shields to the punch). Whether or not the final three songs on mbv are related to Shields' experiments of that time, on mbv, where Shields presumably had time to make the drum parts he wanted, it's clear that he doesn't really hear percussion the way most of us do. Drums are mostly distant, often muddy, serving as an underpinning or textural contrast to the guitar instead of driving the rhythm on their own. In this sense they mirror the 8-bit snatches of sound caught by crude samplers in the 90s. But since Isn't Anything, drums have been down on the list of concerns for MBV, which is one way the final third is so surprising and ultimately powerful.

"In Another Way", another Butcher lead, begins to tilt the balance between noise and melodic beauty as the tempo increases, and by the following instrumental "Nothing Is" the mood has changed considerably. A track of heavy bass drums and pounding guitar, it feels militaristic and even a touch grim, with just faint glimmers of beauty inside the barrage. And then by the final "Wonder 2" the album has become something else. This is MBV's version of an album-closing "L.A. Blues"-like Stooges freak-out, where they stop worrying about structure and fill every inch of tape with noise. The heavy flanging evokes choppers buzzing overhead, and somehow, through it all, there are wispy voices, buried and being shoved around by the din. It's a disquieting end. Where Loveless, despite its complexity, sounded as natural as breathing, mbv sounds like the product of great effort, of meticulous work to get every sound in place. And that exertion is especially apparent in the final third, as Shields tries and ultimately succeeds in taking the project somewhere it's never gone. All this work gives mbv its own quality, simultaneously intimate and detached.

Like its predecessor, mbv feels like an album in part about love, but it approaches the grandest of human emotions from an unusual angle. Kurt Cobain, another iconic songwriter of the 1990s who never got to chance to grow old and figure out how to maintain his creativity in the wake of game-changing masterpieces, had a song called "Aneurysm" and it had a refrain that went, "Love you so much, makes me sick." That's how My Bloody Valentine's deeply destabilizing queasiness, amplified here to a frightening degree, has always struck me: There's a rush of feeling inside their music so intense it creates a kind of paralysis. Music swirls and moves in and out of phase, voices float by, half memory and half anticipation, and you're never quite sure how all the parts fit together. You get lost in it, and if you're wired a certain way that mixture of desire and confusion is easy to map on to the wider world. For 22 years, the only way to get there was through Loveless and its associated EPs; now there's another path, one many of us never expected to find. That it's this successful in spite of it all is something we never had a right to expect.

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RE: Let the cock guzzling begin. M B V 9.1 @ Pitchfork (link)
Feb 06th 2013
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RE: Let the cock guzzling begin. M B V 9.1 @ Pitchfork (link)
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      CD + digital
Feb 06th 2013
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somehow my interest has diminished
Feb 06th 2013
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<shrug>
Feb 06th 2013
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its really good
Feb 06th 2013
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echo that. 8 feels right.
Feb 06th 2013
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RE: Said it once already, but. . .
Feb 06th 2013
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well said.
Feb 06th 2013
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Giving it my 1st listen now...
Feb 06th 2013
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It's cool, they can always just revise it downward in like 5-10 years.
Feb 06th 2013
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RE: So, guys, how would you rate this album?
Feb 06th 2013
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Can we establish which scores qualify as cock guzzling first?
Feb 06th 2013
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RE: Now, come on.
Feb 06th 2013
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      RE: Now, come on.
Feb 06th 2013
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      RE: I already did.
Feb 06th 2013
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      RE: Now, come on.
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           The post title was just an attention grabber
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                RE: So I caught myself dancing to 'New You' at the bus stop this afterno...
Feb 06th 2013
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8/10
Feb 06th 2013
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i've listened to mbv almost exclusively since it dropped
Feb 18th 2013
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RE: THIS
Feb 18th 2013
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RE: THIS
Feb 19th 2013
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hells yeah!
Feb 20th 2013
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agreed. it is very. very. very. good
Feb 19th 2013
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so our product should be shipping out tomorrow
Feb 21st 2013
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Soulroe
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1. "RE: Let the cock guzzling begin. M B V 9.1 @ Pitchfork (link)"
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Hahaha...expected this.

Still copping though.

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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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3. "RE: Let the cock guzzling begin. M B V 9.1 @ Pitchfork (link)"
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you buying the vinyl, cd, digital package?

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18. "CD + digital"
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2. "somehow my interest has diminished "
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4. "<shrug>"
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it's brilliant.

  

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5. "its really good"
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I probably wouldn't give it a 9.1 though

more like an 8 something for me

really good album though, definitely going to end up as one of the best of the year

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7. "echo that. 8 feels right."
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new you is the shit, though

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6. "RE: Said it once already, but. . ."
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. . .I think assessing this album like it's just any other new release is unfair to everyone involved — artist, critic and fan.

I think it's a brilliant moment in music to savour and appreciate. It's not like My Bloody Valentine will ever release another follow up to Loveless.

So, even me as a person who loves to pontificate and wax poetic about music in a critical way. . . I just don't see the point of it with an album like this.

I think the general consensus is that it is a really good album and, because of the weight and cultural baggage that it comes with, we (the nerdiest of music nerds) should just be happy that they DID make a follow up and still manage not to botch what is now established as the legend of Loveless.

I mean, hell, it took nearly fifteen years for most people to come around and realize how good Loveless is — I think it's a but premature to already assess this new album and assign its cultural significance before a lot of people have even heard the album the way it was intended.

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8. "well said."
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9. "Giving it my 1st listen now..."
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..and it is quite amazing

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10. "It's cool, they can always just revise it downward in like 5-10 years."
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11. "RE: So, guys, how would you rate this album?"
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Using whatever scale you prefer? One to five stars? One to ten, using decimals?

I've also thought about writing a themed review of the album, talking about it as if MBV was a cult band with less than 300,000 album sales total. Like all, "Guys, guys. . . GUYS!!! HAVE YOU HEARD THIS BAND???? WOW!"

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12. "Can we establish which scores qualify as cock guzzling first?"
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Like maybe 4 = objective fan. 4.5 = cock guzzling hipster.

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13. "RE: Now, come on."
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The first part of my post was genuine. I was just wondering if anyone had actually formed a solid enough opinion of the album yet to where they felt comfortable handing out a rating. If someone likes it enough to give it a perfect score, fine. But this is a judgment-free zone as far as I'm concerned.

Still think it would be funny to write the review as if very few people had ever heard the band:

"Pounding away at a D major chord and assaulting their audience with sometimes twenty minutes or more of feedback, it's no wonder that nobody bothered to buy and listen to any records by My Bloody Valentine. But those brave few that did discovered daring new sonic territory that can now be asserted as something that should have been hugely influential."

And so on and so forth.

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14. "RE: Now, come on."
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Are you purchasing this from their website and if so, which format?

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15. "RE: I already did."
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Just got the digital version (441 wav).

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16. "RE: Now, come on."
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Just a comment on the annoying original post title, not your response.

When I heard about the album being out and good, I mentioned it to a few people I consider music lovers at work and their reaction showed that tons of music fans already regard them the way your review assumes. "Oh I think I've heard of them, but don't know any of their stuff."

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17. "The post title was just an attention grabber"
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No need to get sensitive about it. I'm a fan of the band and am excited to get this new music just like you.

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19. "RE: So I caught myself dancing to 'New You' at the bus stop this afterno..."
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So many people driving by saw me.

I REGRET NOTHING.

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20. "8/10"
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21. "i've listened to mbv almost exclusively since it dropped"
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i like this shit a lot more than i thought i would.

and i can't believe how quietly it's mastered too.

definitely my favorite lp so far this short year.

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22. "RE: THIS"
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>and i can't believe how quietly it's mastered too.
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I burned the wav files to disc and turned it up the other night. My Carver tube amp was all, "IT'S ABOUT GODDAMN TIME YOU GAVE ME SOMETHING GOOD TO WORK WITH!"

The dynamics in this album are going to be lost on a lot of people, unfortunately.

Has anyone else noticed how friggin' loud 'Only Tomorrow' gets in the last minute?

Pretty awesome.

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24. "RE: THIS"
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>Has anyone else noticed how friggin' loud 'Only Tomorrow' gets
>in the last minute?
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>Pretty awesome.

yep. i've gotten burned a couple of times too starting the song too loud (i'm so used to contemporary stuff just peaking the whole way through).

  

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25. "hells yeah!"
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>Has anyone else noticed how friggin' loud 'Only Tomorrow' gets
>in the last minute?
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>Pretty awesome.

yup! that's the big payoff for me. going out with a loud bang--which is only possible with that wonderful sense of dynamics in the mastering. the last three songs still blow my mind.

i also agree with all the reviews that cite the first three songs as familiar ground, the second third as a pop exercise, and the final three as some new shit. the album GOES somewhere, in terms of music, sound, etc.

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23. "agreed. it is very. very. very. good"
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26. "so our product should be shipping out tomorrow"
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hope I don't have to wait too long for it

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