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MISTA MONOTONE
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"have we discussed this Ginger Baker documentary?"


  

          

hot damn, i wanna see this!! it's coming to Detroit in March too.

here's the trailer...
http://vimeo.com/37768135

here's the website with more info (screenings, etc.) and links galore...
http://bewareofmrbaker.com/

i had no idea of his connection to and affinity for afrobeat. he's a monster tho...i know that much.

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Looks good. Thanks.
Feb 01st 2013
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I heard it's hilarious
Feb 01st 2013
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now THAT is hilarious
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lol what year was that?
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      1987, I think
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*LIKE*
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dog, he popped ol' boy with a metal walking cane in the video.
Feb 01st 2013
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Love his playing.
Feb 01st 2013
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That album was such a surprise...
Feb 01st 2013
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      Yeah, I was really into it when it came out
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I'd love to watch that movie...
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1. "Looks good. Thanks."
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2. "I heard it's hilarious"
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and yeah, I actually initially heard Fela in part due to Baker's appearance on record with him.

Siide note: I was Ginger Baker for Halloween one year in high school. Orange afro wig, bellbottoms and a tie dye. Hard to believe I spent a whole day walking around like that.

Hmm... I might know where a picture of that outfit is. Might have to dig up & scan.

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MISTA MONOTONE
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3. "now THAT is hilarious"
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>Siide note: I was Ginger Baker for Halloween one year in high
>school. Orange afro wig, bellbottoms and a tie dye. Hard to
>believe I spent a whole day walking around like that.
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>Hmm... I might know where a picture of that outfit is. Might
>have to dig up & scan.

yes, you might. lmao.

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5. "lol what year was that?"
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>Siide note: I was Ginger Baker for Halloween one year in high
>school. Orange afro wig, bellbottoms and a tie dye. Hard to
>believe I spent a whole day walking around like that.
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>Hmm... I might know where a picture of that outfit is. Might
>have to dig up & scan.

please do!

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I've been trying to get an interview with Ginger for the past year but he's a bit of a scary old fuck

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MISTA MONOTONE
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6. "dog, he popped ol' boy with a metal walking cane in the video."
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wtf??? he old as hell! he better sit his nearly decrepit ass down somewhere and be old minus the cantankerous!

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7. "Love his playing."
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Especially his drumming on P.I.L.'s "Album"...schitt is just bombastic and dope.

There is another much older documentary about him and his cray cray, as well as one man drug fueled trek across the African continent where he ends up in Lagos...it's really not very good though.
http://www.amazon.com/Ginger-Baker-In-Africa/dp/B000H7JCC8


This one does look fascinating.

Can't wait. Hope they talk about the P.I.L. sessions. Miles Davis agreed to be on the album and John Lydon turned him down. LOL!!!

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Fri Feb-01-13 07:04 PM

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8. "That album was such a surprise..."
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>masters of reality


While I MUCH prefered MOR's debut, it was still supercool that they dug up Ginger to play on an album with them and it was better than the BBM shit (=essentially a Cream reunion but minus Clapton and with Gary Moore instead-BAD choice and I dig Gary (well, not solo but on Thin Lizzy's ''black rose'')).

I never liked that PIL album; WAY too 80's for me but again, cool idea to bring out this old junkie (actually, that's what "album" was:an idea record. And of course, Bill Laswell was involved...)

  

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10. "Yeah, I was really into it when it came out"
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>>masters of reality

>While I MUCH prefered MOR's debut, it was still supercool that
>they dug up Ginger to play on an album with them and it was
>better than the BBM shit (=essentially a Cream reunion but
>minus Clapton and with Gary Moore instead-BAD choice and I dig
>Gary (well, not solo but on Thin Lizzy's ''black rose'')).

Agreed. I STILL need the '60's to be over. They'll never end.


>I never liked that PIL album; WAY too 80's for me but again,
>cool idea to bring out this old junkie (actually, that's what
>"album" was:an idea record. And of course, Bill Laswell was
>involved...)

To me it was Lydon saying "FUCK ALL Y'ALL", lol.
Which is typical John(ny)"Rotten" Lydon...
But he was distancing himself from EVERYBODY from his past and just purging.
Is it a LOUD 80's RAWK album? Yes!
But it's a LOUD 80's RAWK album with Ginger Baker & Tony Williams alternating on the skins.
Also Steve Vai is EXACTLY what I like about it, same with David Lee Roth's "Eat 'Em And Smile"...these are RAWK albums made by people who aren't exactly idiots personally or as frontmen...guys who'd prolly much rather listen to Dub or Martha & the Vandellas and it shows in the over the top guitars matched with odd rhythms or odd arrangements.

I couldn't get enough of this schitt in 1986, maannn.... (and Ginger Baker sounds like fucking Paul Bunyan on the drums on this joint)
http://youtu.be/1zUlkx14c1M

Jeez... too bad Ginger Baker didn't play with D.L.R. too.

lol

but Bill Laswell...oh man...how many different artists have ever wanted to kick a single producers ass more? lol

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Jakob Hellberg
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Cream was one of the first ''classic rock'' bands I dug in my early teens alongside Hendrix and while it's not exactly a band I listen to much today, they were still dope and Baker's drumming was like 30% of why (Jack Bruce was 50 and Clapton 20-of course, he became the star). Shit, "Sunshine of your love" is one of the most famous rock-songs ever but listen to the drums:sheer tension-building that owes more to jazz-drummers than the steady backbeat of earlier 60's rock. And who can front on this groove:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5u8aARWAv4

Not terribly familiar with his career afterwards but I've heard the record he did with Tony Allen as well as Baker Gurvitz army (dope!), PIL and some other later stuff

  

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