43. "Cosign on all of these" In response to Reply # 4
Not familiar with Masta Ace or Scarface's earlier works so can't really speak on how they compare relatively to the rest of their catalog, but these four are all great albums. I'm more of a Long Hot Summer person myself, though.
It really is a very, very, very good album. The ONLY reason it isn't among their best is because they have so many classics in their catalogue, you can't really put it in the "De La's best" conversation. But that album in many other artists' discography is among the best for sure.
But yea --- as to Grind Date discussion specifically, it was such a pleasant surprise. I didn't know what to expect from them following the AOI series, 15+ years in the game, etc., but they really came thru. A nice, concise, consistent effort from one of the genre's best.
Evolve is dope Marco laced the title track Clap is dope Black Hand Side is dope Diamond laced Shine Hallie Salacie Karate is dope Hitman and Assassins are raw The Grand Illusion is nice And the closer with Jilly is good production.
27. "RE: I actually like Shaolin vs Wu-Tang better than this one tho it's goo..." In response to Reply # 19
>I'm not sure either is a cemented 'great' album tho >objectively. >
I love SvsWT but Rock N Roll kills it as a whole lol
>I thought about it though but in the end, like Sir Lucious >Leftfoot, I left it off. >
Love SLLF too but it is not on the level of the Kast classics which would disqualify it
>Love the first Chamber Music joint too but I can't in good >conscience consider it a true Wu album. > >Really wanted to crowbar Moment of Truth in there but it >missed the cut by 6-9 months or so. > >Madvillian count?
>Love SLLF too but it is not on the level of the Kast classics >which would disqualify it
Just because he's made better albums shouldn't change whether or not it was great or not. It's still better than a lot of the other great albums mentioned and cosigned in this thread. Just goes to show the amount of quality albums Big Boi has made or been a part of.
34. "Here's the thin though " In response to Reply # 33 Mon Jan-14-13 10:14 AM by Anonymous
People are not satisfied with dope beats and dope rhymes any more.
Thats what the first one essential is.
You can make a case that RZAs nack for making cohesive albums with the skits sets the first one apart but at the end of the day, those are just skits.
By no means am I saying the second is on the same level because its almost impossible to compete with the nostalgia factor and the first is in my top 10 of all-time.
But if someone dropped the first one today, there would be plenty of people claiming it is just "ok" or calling it overrated.
People's perspectives are all fucked up in 2013. They don't even know what they want and rate albums with cliche talking points that they read on their favorite hip-hop website.
People go into albums looking for ways to either like or dislike it and the sad part about it is that the opinion they're aiming for is based on whether or not they want to be different than the majority's opinion or if hey want to latch on to the majority's opinion in order to satisfy their own need of makin themselves feel validated.
48. "El-P's Cancer 4 Cure and I'll Sleep When You're Dead" In response to Reply # 0
Whilst dude is not necessarily prolific, these were both a good 10 or so years after Funcrusher Plus.
Atmosphere's When Life gives you lemons You Paint That Shit Gold (Overcast! came out in 1997)
Cunninlynguists Oneirology was released 10 years after Will Rap for Food, and I reckon it's probably their second best project.
Not sure if anyone else would include it, but Distant Relatives with Nas and Damian Marley was exceedingly good, but whether it would be included right up there in his discography is another matter.
Agree with the Fishscale, American Gangster and Trophies
49. "RE: El-P's Cancer 4 Cure and I'll Sleep When You're Dead" In response to Reply # 48
CAncer 4 Cure is my fav ELP album. yep I'll go with this.
>Whilst dude is not necessarily prolific, these were both a >good 10 or so years after Funcrusher Plus. > >Atmosphere's When Life gives you lemons You Paint That Shit >Gold (Overcast! came out in 1997) esp if you inculde those season eps and the free mixtape that came out that year they was on a Damn creative peak right there esp with Felt 2 and you can't imagine how much fun we having they hit a late carrer peak.
>Cunninlynguists Oneirology was released 10 years after Will >Rap for Food, and I reckon it's probably their second best >project. great album I still say its the 3rd best release but APOS and dirty acres are classics to me.
64. "Slick Rick - The Art of Storytelling" In response to Reply # 0
updated production but let's keep it real, Uncle Ricky never fell off lyrically. Dude could still make a great album today if he linked up with the right producers.
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