Microphone Fiend>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>School Boy Crush

It Was A Good Day>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Footsteps In The Dark

Many more but you get the gist, feel free to throw out further examples of your own on that side if you wish.

However I'm really trying to think if there's any disco cut that wasn't later made a more effective record in its looped-up-and-spit-on rap single incarnation.

They must exist but coming up empty this morning.

I might even like 'Freaks Of The Industry' better than 'Love To Love Ya Baby' tho likely that's the minority viewpoint (RIP Donna Summer/Congrats On The R&RHOF Induction) but since that was an album track it doesn't fit the requirements anyway.

Whatdya youse think?

>It Was A Good Day>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Footsteps In The Dark

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played incessantly but that kinda makes the point.

Kids who weren't even born before the riots & think of Cube as an actor can recite that line for line.

and that chord/time change that comes on in chorus, and the vocal harmonies in the chorus

and tell me all that pales in comparison to "My dick runs deep, so deep, so deep put her ass to sleep"

...well, I don't think I want you living in my neighborhood.

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More 'effective' than a renowned-classic slow jam? Really? No duh. Lol

fuck you.

*shrug*

fuck you.

which was beside the point.

fuck you.

>played incessantly but that kinda makes the point.
>
>Kids who weren't even born before the riots & think of Cube as
>an actor can recite that line for line.


"Footsteps???"

You smoking that shit...lol

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

Since 1976

ESPECIALLY...

>It Was A Good Day>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Footsteps In The Dark

SMH.

>I might even like 'Freaks Of The Industry' better than 'Love
>To Love Ya Baby' tho likely that's the minority viewpoint (RIP
>Donna Summer/Congrats On The R&RHOF Induction) but since that
>was an album track it doesn't fit the requirements anyway.

i'm pretty sure both of those were singles. FOTI got at least the 12" promo treatment.

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already name for you at some point.

I snuck 'made a more effective record' in there for that very reason as my out.

'Good Day' was a monster, iconic song much more so than the song it's music sprang from whether you personally enjoy it or not.

It's still played regularly twenty years later, meanwhile I'd have to play GTA4 to hear Footsteps.

Come on, son... You're better than this.

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>It's still played regularly twenty years later, meanwhile I'd
>have to play GTA4 to hear Footsteps.


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>
>>It's still played regularly twenty years later, meanwhile
>I'd
>>have to play GTA4 to hear Footsteps.
>
>
>U WHITE THO.
>
>domino, motherfucka.
>

He don't know shit about slow jams (except what Kanye taught him), probably.

fuck you.

>He don't know shit about slow jams (except what Kanye taught
>him), probably.

It is a classic song, even if an album cut. Most ppl who heard 'It Was a Good Day' when it was new already knew about 'Footsteps'.

Lol

fuck you.

i'd maintain that i'd have to try harder to hear Ice Cube's song. i heard Footsteps on the (oldies station) radio last week.

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but maybe Cube's track gets more play on radio et al out West. around Chicago the Isleys' song wins out in terms of airplay.

fuck you.

...on the oldies station down here in GA. I can't remember the last time I heard Cube's version.


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>It Was A Good Day>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Footsteps In The Dark


Mufucka *really* done lost his mind now.

be something other than an add-nothing-nay-sayin-chorus-of-music-nerdom, then holla with some actual input instead of getting hung up on one example (of which there's a solid argument for) you disagree with and giving crusty-ass co-signs.

only thing hurtin is this once-fine now mostly fart-sniffing forum.

>only thing hurtin is this once-fine now mostly fart-sniffing
>forum.

you're normally on point, you just having a bad week homie.

on the real tho...were those just bad examples or is there a disconnect about what disco is?

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>
>you're normally on point, you just having a bad week homie.
>
>on the real tho...were those just bad examples or is there a
>disconnect about what disco is?

no, they were just terrible examples, I actually do know what disco is even if I didn't necessarily display said knowledge here (and by the way, I'm a fan but Average White Band is real *borderline* as a true 'funk' band, next thing you know Tower Of Power & then next thing you know Chicago is trying to act like they really drop the sticky-icky just 'cause they had some damn horns). But yeah, it ain't really 'disco' at all. Just wanted to show 'Microphone Fiend' love.

Speaking of Disco, where the legendary OKP of the same name been at?

and enduring you are trippin if you think the og isnt just as much as that rap redo

(which there is for sure an argument to be made & any refuting being a matter of pure personal taste) let's say it did & then maybe one of y'all can actually add a candidate to the post.

That's why you're getting pushback. 'Footsteps' is one of the Isleys' most-loved and well-known songs.

fuck you.

but as I'd told Tone, I'd toss it on the 'it's not really disco' caveat if y'all want.

you seem to be unfamiliar w/the reverence for 'Footsteps'.

it's cool. this forum is called The Lesson for a reason.

fuck you.

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to be a straight-loop but needs to be a major recognizable part of each record.

like...at all.

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so y'all can find something new & shiny to play with in here anyway rather than fixating any further.

Full disclosure, wrote this post with the other two in mind this morning (heard 'Good Times' while grabbing my morning coffee) and was loooking to throw a third example in but couldn't back DJ Jazzy Jeff & Fresh Prince 'Ring My Bell' too tough so went with that one.

In terms of a hit record (and not some fluke hit, a memorable joint with staying power) it certainly supercedes.

but that's not really a "disco" record (if you're stringent) but it is one of those joints that I think you'd have to be well versed in P-Funk to know since it was on the last Parliament album (which IMO ain't one of their best, certainly ain't seeing the one right before it). it bangs, but not like "Knee Deep" and "One Nation Under A Groove" did for Funkadelic, or any of the Parliament hits in the '70s.

but "Humpty Dance" is definitely one of the most "recite every verse" tracks in the genre, not to mention its beat was probably sampled more than any rap song to date. in the early '90s there was like a cult surrounding that beat (esp. in R&B)

One of my favorite Parliament-cuts even if I think it sounds more like a Rubber Band-cut. At that time, I don't think it mattered to George at all; I think he grabbed anything that was lying around which explains why he fell off as an ''album-act''-much of th appeal of the earlier Parliament albums was their thematic consistency. And even the more ''messy'' Funkadelic-brand got too inconsistent as well:does anyone think ''Freak of the week'' or ''Uncle Jam'' or even ''Knee Deep'' (¤they snuck a guitarsolo in there though) sound like the post-Hendrix funk rock synonymous with that brand?

''Humpty dance'' is dope too though, I just don't think there's much point in comparing...

>but that's not really a "disco" record (if you're stringent)
>but it is one of those joints that I think you'd have to be
>well versed in P-Funk to know since it was on the last
>Parliament album (which IMO ain't one of their best, certainly
>ain't seeing the one right before it). it bangs, but not like
>"Knee Deep" and "One Nation Under A Groove" did for
>Funkadelic, or any of the Parliament hits in the '70s.
>
>but "Humpty Dance" is definitely one of the most "recite every
>verse" tracks in the genre, not to mention its beat was
>probably sampled more than any rap song to date. in the early
>'90s there was like a cult surrounding that beat (esp. in
>R&B)

The original is solid enough, but the EPMD one is like one of my five favorite records of all time.

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because 'Funkin For Jamaica' is my shit (though that's not quite 'disco' to me either but close enough I suppose).

You came with an actual example tho so you good with me.

it was that extra 'ding' that did it

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cant believe he got out of a lawsuit with that... extra ding.. defense...


and Biz got the shaft for singing that joint off key...


oh and i wanna play too


Kingdom Come >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Superfreak

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>cant believe he got out of a lawsuit with that... extra
>ding.. defense...
>
>
>and Biz got the shaft for singing that joint off key...
>
>
>oh and i wanna play too
>
>
>Kingdom Come >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Superfreak

Yeah more people (especially the younger generation) know Vanilla Ice's version and don't know the original but David & Freddie's song is just a cool song and will never sound corny or terrible after multiple listens.

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on every level (hit, quality, timelessness, etc)

You are comparing the ''effectiveness'' (not quality) of:

*a fan favorite vs. a massive MTv crosover-hit

*a fairly obscure cut mainly known today for being sampled a gazillion time vs. one of the top 5 songs by a rapper many consider the GOAT.

*an undeniably huge disco hit which ''effectiveness' was blunted by being ripped off twice for two big hits within a year of its release vs a song that-erroneously or not-is considered the first rap-record...

Fail...

As usual, you are freely mixing subjective and objective statements in a careless and inconsistent manner. For example, ''freaks of the industry' is better to you than the Summer-cut. However, when someone says they prefer ''footsteps...'', then it becomes ''ask the dj''. How does that make sense?

& that I'd be in the minority with that viewpoint anyway.

...and it was disqualified on the basis of not being a single, Not because of you being the minority viewpoint. Yet, ''Footsteps...'' is eligible for comparison in spite of not being an A-side single on the other side of the fence.

Yes, I can be annoying...

Footsteps In The Dark, while a popular song in its own right, would not have needed single-status.

Tone made a better point about it being a disco song at all, which was an actually more legitimate gripe & I agreed we can toss it.

...it was barely implied and it makes the whole premise of the thread skimpy.

Whatever, in order for a disco-song to have the efficiency of a later rap-song, it must be popular still, right?

Anyway, I still hear Cheryl Lynn's '' To be real'' and EMotions ''Best of my love'' regularly. Both these songs have been sampled a lot and none of the songs that sampled them have been as effective.

Otherwise, most of the still ''effective'' disco-songs have barely been sampled at all to my knowledge, at least not by ''credible'' rappers so I don't get it. Disco sucks? Is that the point?

what was their rap hit, My Babby Daddy?

''However I'm really trying to think if there's any disco cut that wasn't later made a more effective record in its looped-up-and-spit-on rap single incarnation.''

So now the rap-song must have been a hit as well? *SMH* Doesn't that imply that it would be more effective in the now since the efficiency of various songs is very much a generational thing...

it's amazing the lengths y'all go to try to debate over minutiae rather than just play along or pass.

This wasn't some assault on disco as a music forum or battle-tested thesis, this was me asking an open-ended question since at 8:30 this morning I couldn't think of an example myself that fit that criteria.

We're now about 70 posts in without a clear-cut nominee either.

Loleatta Hallaway's ''Love sensation''>>>Marky mark's ''good vibrations''

Bee Gees ''Staying alive''>>>Wyclef

Sister Sledge ''He's the greatest dancer''>>>Will Smith ''Gettin' Jiggy with it''

Seriously, I'm drawing blanks on ''effective'' (as opposed to obscure) disco-songs sampled in credible Hip-hop hits...
4
and single !=hit

for some reason that song's a velveeta-cheese-guilty-pleasure, with the 'Top Billin' part & Forte's Liquid-Cocaine-Flow on there.

But yes 'Stayin Alive' works.

Do you actually like Disco? Lol

fuck you.

i love both of those songs.

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fuck you.

>Do you actually like Disco? Lol

oh yeah, I've got lots of disco cuts I like, obviously it's not my forte to the degree rap music is because I didn't grow along with its genesis or immerse myself in it with the same degree of passion/persistence.

Shape" ?

I have a hard time saying a song is better when it's basically a straight rip off, but I do
like HBFS. I like Cola Bottle for listening and HBFS for shit like working out. Always interesting
to me which one people choose and why.

DP emphasized the best part of the source and worked the hell out of it.

fuck you.

I really like the bridge... the "Oh when you look in her eyes" part. Also I love how live and yet at the same time "futuristic" it sounds while HBFS sounds robotic (don't mean it in a bad way at all).

I agree with SW that DP really boiled down the track to its most powerful essence, though.

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Easy one for me. And I dig both.

fuck you.

fuck you.

sorry
nobody can make the payback sound better than it already does
i've tried
if i can't homie
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