Now I am officially an old dude!!

How would this have been accepted if it was officially released?

Was he an idiot for stopping the release and making love sexy instead?

Should he have released the black album and dropped lovesexy the next year?

Was this the beginning of the end?

So many questions and things to discuss

Share your thoughts and recollections on this record

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You know I just put that on not too long ago (after hearing The Music Snobs (thanks Ally Al) talking about it).

"2 Nigs United 4 West Compton", weird title (and narration of said title) aside is damn near everything I love about Prince in a single song.

I posed this question before: why does "Dead on It" and "Bob George" sound better than the "rap" music he released in the '90s? Even if the former is a joke, at least Prince is programming the drums like a rap artist might and "rapping".

In fact, one of the comments that I know ?uest gets a little flack for but I agree with, is that Prince could have made some good "rap" if he seriously tried. There were some takes of "D.M.S.R." from live shows where the Linn Drum track that was running sounded like it could have been on an '80s rap song.

Not to mention, "Irresistible Bitch" is kind of a "rapping" song.

Back to the subject at hand.

It certainly wasn't the beginning of the end. In a way, I felt like it was sort of the right bridge between Sign O The Times and Lovesexy, a sort of reminder of Prince's knack for hitting you with a curveball after something "big" -- a reminder that he did march to the beat of his own drum. And thankfully, he hadn't bought much into his own "Superstar" hype by this point either.

I just don't know if there was a $$$ track to be found in it, is the issue.

But would have been a great bookend to sign and lovesexy
IMHO it would have been genius at the time to drop a party record w no promotion whatsoever and see what happens
I believe the raunchy stigma alone would have attracted folks
(This was pre gangsta rap)
Them come back with lovesexy n 88
Which leads back to my "the end" question
For me this record and lovesexy marked the death of "super prince", The man who feared nothing and no one.
The reason why those rap tracks are great is because he still had that I don't give a fuck attitude which made other laughable tracks so good.
Post this record, here comes the doubts and questions that still plague him to this day
I heard that the early mix for lovesexy were different and superior to the final mix

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The Funk was still there...right up until D&P came out and sold the way that it did.

When Symbol came out, and died a quick death, the funk became waay more fake and polished...




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@ okayplayer x y z album marked the death of x y z prince.

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>But would have been a great bookend to sign and lovesexy
>IMHO it would have been genius at the time to drop a party
>record w no promotion whatsoever and see what happens
>I believe the raunchy stigma alone would have attracted folks
>
>(This was pre gangsta rap)
>Them come back with lovesexy n 88
>Which leads back to my "the end" question
>For me this record and lovesexy marked the death of "super
>prince", The man who feared nothing and no one.
>The reason why those rap tracks are great is because he still
>had that I don't give a fuck attitude which made other
>laughable tracks so good.
>Post this record, here comes the doubts and questions that
>still plague him to this day
>I heard that the early mix for lovesexy were different and
>superior to the final mix
>
>

Love this album.
And crap I'm old.

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The first time I heard the album was the bootleg version on cassette recorded by a random band (has this "random band" been identified?) I bought it at a local record store called R&P. It wasn't until a year or so later that I got a dub of the real thing and realized I had been had.

But... I think if today's climate in music existed in 1987, it would have worked great. THE BLACK ALBUM could've been his perceived "dark side" and LOVESEXY could've been his "bright side" but when it was canceled, we all know what happened. Everyone wanted to hear THE BLACK ALBUM. As someone who played with perceptions in his music, he seemed to be uncomfortable with presenting it once he got to a certain point. I think the album still works well and I agree that his rap tracks on here are a lot better than what he would do "legitimately".

Then again, I also think he could have released six to eight albums in a year between 1986-1989 and still would've worked out great. The industry couldn't handle the influx then, and sadly they're not going to deal with it now.







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But you can't maintain that level of being at the cultural/creative zeitgeist forever.

At some point you get tapped out, comfortable, too insulated with yes-men around, etc to be able to keep that up.

its got a great weird indescribable vibe to it... and yes i would say its the beginning of the end. lovesexy's alright but after that what a nose dive... i'll never understand what happened to dude.
at least he got tony m. some work.

>its got a great weird indescribable vibe to it... and yes i
>would say its the beginning of the end. lovesexy's alright but
>after that what a nose dive... i'll never understand what
>happened to dude.
>at least he got tony m. some work.



What happened? The same thing that happens to all the greats...

Then multiply that times a cat who was recording at arguably the most prolific pace in pop music history not only for himself, but for the Time, Sheila E, and other acts...

It's impossible to keep that EPIC level up...

That's all you need to "understand," homie...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

I remember when my uncle bought the bootleg lp which had a orange label with an all black album cover in which you could only see the picture of the You got the look 12" photo and the tracklisting in the shadows of an all black cover in a brown paper bag and put the needle on bob george and it sounded crazy with slowed down vocals but the beat itself blew my mind on the first time.

Ordered it from NYC!!

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