"So are there any more holy grail samples left to find?"
People found Ice Cream and Shook Ones and all of that... but are there any others that people still have yet to unearth? I feel like in the internet age secrets aren't kept very well any more, so if someone knows a source, the rest of the world finds out soon enough.
The only one that comes to mind at the moment is Nothing Like This, which I remember a story about how Just Blaze gave up looking for it. Any others?
I think Queen Latifah's "Just Another Day" provides a clue. S.I.D. (who I think was an in-house producer for the Flava Unit) masterfully sampled Herb Alpert feat Janet Jackson "Making Love in the Rain" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3ORbMKsDVw). The filtered bass line on Just Another Day and Crooklyn are very similar in the sense that the notes are long, sustained, and smoothed out. Notes you would hear on very slow songs. I really think Tip sampled some sort of R&B ballad to get that sound. The bass is so pronounced in Crooklyn that I doubt its a classic soul or jazz which would have more movement. He could have pitched it down or time stretched it (rare for 1993, but possible if you had an s950), but I doubt it.
My money goes to it probably being some type of R&B ballad between 82 and 92. I'm probably wrong, but every time I hear Just Another Day, I think about Crooklyn
4. "RE: So are there any more holy grail samples left to find?" In response to Reply # 0
> >The only one that comes to mind at the moment is Nothing Like >This, which I remember a story about how Just Blaze gave up >looking for it. Any others?
Nothing Like This is a BOSTON song backward. It's out there.
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6. "Bring It On by Jay-Z" In response to Reply # 0
everybody that says they know what it is won't say anything
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I can understand why some samples are hard to find given what the producer might have done to it chop/filter wise, but that sample sounds pretty untouched...
18. "from what ?uest says, it's not a loop" In response to Reply # 17
and he says it's Primo's best flip
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11. "someone upped this a few years ago" In response to Reply # 7
they even did the chops and all that too, can't remember who it was
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15. "I have that record so I noticed it right off, but yeah" In response to Reply # 12
niggas were scratching their heads for a while because of how it sounds with the drums on it
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24. "aint that about a bitch" In response to Reply # 7
i GOT that, aint een listened to it yet
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14. "that was redone with a guitar, the OG was a harp" In response to Reply # 13
Buckwild couldn't clear it so Chucky Thompson replayed it
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19. "he won't say what it is" In response to Reply # 16
until he's ready, and after almost 2o years it's probably not going to be anytime soon
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23. "hes so slept on its all he has left" In response to Reply # 19
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52. "Michael Jackson - "Billie Jean" pitched waaaay the fuck down." In response to Reply # 16
Easy Mo Bee was on some other, OTHER shit with that. Not unlike Havoc obscuring the Herbie Hancock to make the "Shook Ones Pt II" sample so hard to track down.
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57. "RE: What instrument??" In response to Reply # 55
Maybe the two notes that come in right after the drum/bass intro? I've never tried it myself. Maybe someone with some nice pitch-shifting software can prove me right or wrong.
66. "Same record Pete used for Mecca & The Soul Brother" In response to Reply # 57
Off the EP. The guitar part a few seconds in. Reason I'm saying this is because Pete said he wished he'd thought of that but he overlooked jt.
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75. "We've Only Just Begun is the name of the song" In response to Reply # 72
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27. "ima let you finish GPopp, but thats one of the best of all time fam" In response to Reply # 25
ALL TIME.
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28. "not sure what you guys mean but I said its not THE best" In response to Reply # 27
it's one of his most slept on records easily, not sure what the piano is but this is a dope one
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32. "Party is Goin on Over Here?" In response to Reply # 0
I haven't been able to find this sample anywhere.
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43. "Sleeping like a dog" In response to Reply # 0
Is another example just like Bring It On where all the people that say they know the sample won't give it up. They say it's a polish cover of Hard Days Night...?
45. "I hate that beat so I never really tried to hunt it" In response to Reply # 43
matter of fact I don't usually hunt for samps, I just stumble on them or I know it as soon as I hear it
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86. "I need to find 9 X Out of 10 and Somehow, Someway" In response to Reply # 0
I'm sure the 1st was replayed, but could never figure out the sample. As far as the second, Rockwilder may be taking that to his grave
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88. "Reflection Eternal - 2000 Seasons" In response to Reply # 0
Not sure it's a holy grail joint but I think this one is still unknown. I actually tried to find it on "Whosampled" and there is a hilarious conversation between two guys about it.
92. "Dilla "Sleeping Like A Dog"" In response to Reply # 0 Tue Sep-06-16 08:31 PM by KennyFresh
i've gone through literally hundreds of "A Hard Day's Night" covers trying to find the one he used, & have asked every Dilla associate or historian i know, & have still come up on nothing
edit: my bad, just saw it was already mentioned above. but still..... !!!
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