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david bammer
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"david bammer offers career advice for aspiring artists..."
Fri Sep-28-12 08:04 AM by david bammer

  

          

if you want some, reply - ask me something.
show me something...
i'll reply and tell you what i think of you and constructively tell you need to fix and why imo.

  

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Pan-Africanist lyrics over Young L / trap beats
Sep 28th 2012
1
sounds like it would require heavy emphasis on stylishness...
Sep 29th 2012
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AYO SON!! YOU FUCKS WITH THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE SON!!
Sep 28th 2012
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AYO SON!! THANKS FOR IGNORING THIS!!
Sep 30th 2012
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why not release a video per song on an EP/LP?
Sep 28th 2012
3
why not?
Sep 29th 2012
6
As an artist...is there any reason not to have a full album/mixtape...
Sep 28th 2012
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i mean ideally - sure.
Sep 29th 2012
7
Bammer, i'm a take u up on it:
Sep 28th 2012
5

Reuben
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Fri Sep-28-12 08:43 AM

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1. "Pan-Africanist lyrics over Young L / trap beats"
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all done whilst wearing Ozwald Boateng suits


will it work?

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david bammer
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Sat Sep-29-12 11:38 PM

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8. "sounds like it would require heavy emphasis on stylishness..."
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art direction/photography, etc.
i'd have to see it to tell if it "could" work.
anything could/couldn't work on paper.

  

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imcvspl
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Fri Sep-28-12 10:03 AM

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2. "AYO SON!! YOU FUCKS WITH THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE SON!!"
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http://soundcloud.com/primusluta/yxes

I'M JUST SAYIN' SON, YOU FEELIN' DAT?
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"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."
A PHASE!!

  

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imcvspl
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9. "AYO SON!! THANKS FOR IGNORING THIS!!"
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________
Big PEMFin H & z's
█▆▇▅▇█▇▆▄▁▃
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." © Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."
A PHASE!!

  

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DolphinTeef
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Fri Sep-28-12 10:53 AM

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3. "why not release a video per song on an EP/LP?"
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(assuming money is not a problem)

  

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david bammer
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Sat Sep-29-12 11:26 PM

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6. "why not?"
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i always have been a big proponent of singles/videos.
just don't release bullshit videos online every day...
shoot real videos for real songs that have a real single status that could actually be rotated on mtv/bet.
disperse these videos/singles over the course of 1-1.5 years.
and that's how all of the best selling albums from 198x onward go to xx million records sold.
the more singles and the more milage you can get out of 1 album - the better.

  

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DolphinTeef
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Fri Sep-28-12 10:57 AM

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4. "As an artist...is there any reason not to have a full album/mixtape..."
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ready to go PRIOR to releasing a potentially hit single. I understand artists dont always know for sure but at the very least, do you agree they should have 30-40 min of music on deck before they take the first shot?

  

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david bammer
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7. "i mean ideally - sure."
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Sat Sep-29-12 11:45 PM by david bammer

  

          

for profitization purposes - sure.

the most important thing ime is that you always have that SECOND single.
no 2nd single, no nada.
in a perfect world i would say yeah, have your album ready to drop once you have a song blowing up.
but always have that SECOND single ready because it's equally if not more important than the first one that lands you attention.
i'd even go as far as to say, when picking singles, keep your best one for 2nd.
if you an get milage out of a song that isn't even your best, wait until they hear #2...
just my opinion though.

examples of great 2nd singles:

busta rhymes - it's a party
big pun - still not a player
biggie - big poppa
lil kim - crush on you
the pharcyde - passin me by
onyx - slam

what do all of these have in common?
they were more commercially viable than their predecessor but were conscious/unconsciously saved for 2nd.
word to lord tariq & peter gunz.

  

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judono
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Fri Sep-28-12 01:44 PM

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5. "Bammer, i'm a take u up on it:"
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if you're being for reaL about this. lol. i'd Like for you to be as honest and criticaL on my shit as possibLe. if you're hearing some weak shit from me, i want to know what & why.. if you digg on something i'd Like to hear your thoughts too. unbiased. be reaL with me.

i feeL Like i'm ready to record some songs with some A-B LeveL underground cats on the production or on the mic. ... so i'm trying to take that next LittLe step, but dont know what to do. i'm not a Live show cat. i'm the dude thats in the Lab. i onLy post my music on OKP.



aLL beats & vocaLs by your boy unLess otherwise noted.

(both aLbums at the bandcamp Links are free dL's. put $0.00 on the Name Your Price part of the bandcamp downLoad page. the Aside Bside cuts are free dL's at the soundcLoud):


the 'NdPNdNT' aLbum: recorded in 3 weeks during juLy 2012 :
http://valentinebomb.bandcamp.com/


dirty birds - march 2012 - my psych/Lofi record haLf recorded on 4track cassette tape- recorded over 3 months during Nov'11-Feb'12:
http://valentinebomb.bandcamp.com/album/dirty-birds-loficassettetapedigi8trackflybeatshit


and the A-Side/B-Side - recorded in 2 days in Sept 2012:
http://soundcloud.com/valentinebomb/flippin-pt5-side-a-valentine
http://soundcloud.com/valentinebomb/the-b-side-aviator-j-jay




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