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"Danny! - Payback Album Discussion"


  

          

Shit drops tomorrow. You can check out the preview on New Zealand's iTunes: http://itunes.apple.com/nz/album/payback/id563416218

It's quite a bit different than the version that was supposed to come out in January (Im sure the whole changing labels had something to do with this), but from the previews, it sounds amazing.

What you guys think of Okayplayer Records' newest signee?

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I make this post...
Sep 24th 2012
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lol...i don't even know which one to lock.
Sep 24th 2012
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I'm down for the clean slate
Sep 24th 2012
3
RE: Danny! - Payback Album Discussion
Sep 25th 2012
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Heard it's hitting Amazon/other digital retailers soon n/m
Sep 25th 2012
15
def supporting South Carolina..WE ALL WE GOT! lol
Sep 25th 2012
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about half way through
Sep 25th 2012
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I'm a lil disappointed he had to make a new one
Sep 25th 2012
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how did so many of you hear the original release??
Sep 25th 2012
8
I heard it, Danny! sent me a 24 hour stream back in January
Sep 25th 2012
10
Different? Yes. Just as dope, though.
Sep 25th 2012
9
agreed 100% so far
Sep 25th 2012
11
Danny! dropped 1.5 albums this year
Sep 25th 2012
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Sorry for spamming it up in here with opinions
Sep 25th 2012
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pretty long snippets on google play
Sep 25th 2012
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RE: Danny! - Payback Album Discussion
Sep 25th 2012
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RE: Danny! - Payback Album Discussion
Sep 26th 2012
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      RE: Danny! - Payback Album Discussion
Sep 26th 2012
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the jay-z/?uest name drops and references are kinda annoying
Sep 26th 2012
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dope
Sep 28th 2012
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:)
Sep 28th 2012
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Danny! said maybe on the vinyl
Sep 28th 2012
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RE: Danny! - Payback Album Discussion
Oct 01st 2012
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RE: Danny! - Payback Album Discussion
Oct 01st 2012
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I gotta be honest...
Oct 01st 2012
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I haven't heard a rapper remind us of Jigga complimenting him this much
Oct 01st 2012
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fuckouttahere
Oct 01st 2012
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      Whoa dude relax
Oct 01st 2012
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           i was a tad snippy, lol
Oct 01st 2012
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                RE: i was a tad snippy, lol
Oct 01st 2012
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its pretty fucking rad all-round
Oct 02nd 2012
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Can someone fill me in on the beef with Childish Gambino?
Oct 02nd 2012
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I doubt there is beef, honestly.
Oct 02nd 2012
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      Yeah I really can't tell when he's just clowning
Oct 02nd 2012
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           i take it as a rule of thumb
Oct 02nd 2012
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                RE: i take it as a rule of thumb
Oct 02nd 2012
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                     you guys are spot on, as always
Oct 02nd 2012
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i gotta check this shit out!!!
Oct 03rd 2012
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AOTY
Oct 03rd 2012
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bros, right now there are so many albums I'm trying to listen to
Oct 03rd 2012
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very curious about the OG album...any chance there's
Oct 08th 2012
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RE: very curious about the OG album...any chance there's
Oct 08th 2012
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RE: Danny! - Payback Album Discussion
Oct 10th 2012
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Goose
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1. "I make this post..."
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Then posts from January resurface. Guess that makes me the asshole lol.

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2. "lol...i don't even know which one to lock."
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Delajoo
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3. "I'm down for the clean slate"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omMENcmz2LU

top 10 2012 jam right hurrr

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4. "RE: Danny! - Payback Album Discussion"
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How/where can I purchase this album. I do not have/refuse to use itunes.

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15. "Heard it's hitting Amazon/other digital retailers soon n/m"
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5. "def supporting South Carolina..WE ALL WE GOT! lol"
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and he stay dropping dope shit.

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Goose
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6. "about half way through"
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shit's fire. I think i prefer the original "myintrotoletyoukno" but it might take a while to get used to the new version, and I miss Kweli on "Get Up."

But everything's been great so far. "Evil" is crazy. So "Little Black Boy." and everything else I've heard.

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7. "I'm a lil disappointed he had to make a new one"
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If it's like Where Is Danny vs.Where is Danny 2.0 I don't wanna hear the new version.

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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8. "how did so many of you hear the original release??"
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10. "I heard it, Danny! sent me a 24 hour stream back in January"
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Tue Sep-25-12 11:34 AM by Delajoo

  

          

if you wanna read my twitter reactions as I listen @delajoo

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9. "Different? Yes. Just as dope, though."
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I admit that the previous version, with its guests, was a great display of him sort of trolling the industry while still making incredible music. But this new version is, IMO, better crafted production-wise and further shows Danny's ability to hold up a project on his own. I'm excited to cop it.

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11. "agreed 100% so far"
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I'm at Get Up, production is more cohesive. The album isn't a star studded afair but in a way, I think its better that way. Danny! always talks about his dismay of the cosignness of Hip Hop, this album's tracklist seems more "wholesome"

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12. "Danny! dropped 1.5 albums this year"
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that can match any hip hop release from 2012 IMO.

If only we could have both!!!!!

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13. "Sorry for spamming it up in here with opinions"
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Tue Sep-25-12 01:16 PM by Delajoo

  

          

But this album is immediately a Top 5 album for me in 2012. I was in kind of a shit mood when I woke up, and one play through PayBack and I'm mad optimistic.

PayBack is such a Lesson album, got something in it for everyone. This year has been overloaded with hyped up releases, and for me personally, classics. Probably my favorite year in music in my young life, and the most I've been glued in trying to catch it all. I'm not even a Danny! stan, I started listening to his back catalog like only the end of last year. But I've been pining for this release since I first heard the original, and fam, I'm completely satisfied. Despite the stripped down, changed up guest list this is actually a BETTER album.

He runs circles around most of these other producers out there, given that the beats on the original were so great already, and he was just like "fuck it Imma make an even BETTER beat for v2". And as a rapper is great too, witty, funny, technically sound, original everything you look for. I read once on here that Oddisee is the best producer rapper doing it right now, and I call bullshit. Payback seals that one up easily.

Good fucking job, now I just need it on Wax. Danny! what's good with it?

P.S - And I thought I was going crazy for a minute hearing Timbaland's Are You That Somebody interpolated like 15 times on this album, and then he threw on him speaking for a second to Ice it. All Smiles!

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14. "pretty long snippets on google play"
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https://play.google.com/store/music/album/Danny_Payback?id=Bd25sc6jio57rkrxnho5muvshae&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImFsYnVtLUJkMjVzYzZqaW81N3JrcnhuaG81bXV2c2hhZSJd

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16. "RE: Danny! - Payback Album Discussion"
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After listening to it all day, here are some thoughts:

I love the Timbo nods, but dude definitely overdid it. I think this album does not really showcase his production skills as much as previous albums.

I'm disappointed "Silly Me" was totally scrapped, but at least he released it and it's available. The new myintrotoletyouknow is very dope though.

"Get Up" was my fav song on the original, I'm disappointed slightly by the new version.

"Speed" is just as good as the brilliant original version, and is one of my fav songs on the album.

"Keep Your Head to the Sky" got me through a lot of hard times these past few months, and I'm ecstatic that he didn't change anything about it. One of my fav Danny songs.


I think if I never heard the original version of the album, I would like this version more. I do think the OG version is better, but I'm happy it got released. I will say that I don't really miss any of the guests that were taken off the album other than John Legend and Talib Kweli. I just really hope Danny! gets more shine from this album. Dude definitely deserves it, and this album will definitely be somewhere in my top 10 in an incredibly strong 2012.

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17. "RE: Danny! - Payback Album Discussion"
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Wed Sep-26-12 06:35 PM by DredScott

          

dope album, copped it at like 12 midnight on monday. i was feenin' like k-ci and jojo.

first thought was man i wish danny! rapped over the "overture" beat. that shit is so lush, that's classic danny! production right there.

"even louder" is my fucking shit. i can't stop playing it. there's no way the original version could be iller.

i am though kinda disappointed by the lp version of "shit starters", especially after hearing the snippet of the o.g. version on the best of danny mixtape. i always liked the that big sean diss line and i haven't been able to listen to agallah in a long ass time so him replacing anyone is an L imo.

i was hoping that "goodbye love" would be an iTunes bonus cut but it's aight, i copped it off the evil single and added it to my version as a bonus cut along with "been away too long".

i'll be back with more in-depth thoughts later on.

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19. "RE: Danny! - Payback Album Discussion"
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Yeah I was pretty bummed he changed his verse on shit starters too. "Even Louder" is really dope too. And "Misunderstood's" beat is crazy and kids subtle, I missed a few things the first few times I played it.

I'm finding myself enjoying the beats more than I did initially. I still think he used those drums a bit much. But it's still very dope.

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18. "the jay-z/?uest name drops and references are kinda annoying"
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i don't know if i like dudes flow yet. i gotta let it sit a little longer.

  

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20. "dope"
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21. ":)"
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Great album. Hopefully one day it gets a physical release - I broke my own rule and bought it off itunes, but I'd still love to have a little gatefold on my shelf.

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22. "Danny! said maybe on the vinyl"
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this is one album where I just NEED it on wax. Seriously

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23. "RE: Danny! - Payback Album Discussion"
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This album doesn't sound like a Danny! album except for a few songs. Not saying that is good or bad that's just how it sounds to me.

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25. "RE: Danny! - Payback Album Discussion"
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production wise i definitely agree, but like you said it's not necessarily a bad thing.

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24. "I gotta be honest..."
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I thought you guys were probably over-rating this thing because he posts here...which often happens in okayplayerland.

This sh!t is phenomenal.

I had checked out some of his older stuff before and wasn't ever super impressed...

But this??

I can't beleive how dope this is. I love dude's production on this, the song writing, how the album flows- everything.

Definitely a top 5 contender this year.

Good for him man, this really is THAT good.

A few things-

I know Jigga is a fan of his raps....he should get some BEATS from Danny.


I know ?uesto is clearly a fan...he should solicit Danny for help writing hooks...


Anyway, very impressed...I want a physical of this.

  

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26. "I haven't heard a rapper remind us of Jigga complimenting him this much"
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since Jay said if skills sold lyrically he sound like Talib Kweli

  

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27. "fuckouttahere"
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i mention it a total of FOUR times on an 80-minute album, three of them were in jest

far as FUCK from overkill but i know people love reaching for reasons not to rock with me

someone else said i bellyached too much about the album getting pushed back (pre-Okayplayer) so they dont fuck with me anymore

smh

sorry if I was supposed to keep something like that to myself, being on the radar of the biggest rapper in the universe was a big deal to *me*

thanks to everyone who checked it out though, it means a lot

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28. "Whoa dude relax"
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Mon Oct-01-12 04:14 PM by Oak27

  

          

Not once did I say your numerous name drops of Jigga a) make me dislike the album or b) makes me not want to check for you.

I actually dig the album. This is the first time hearing any of your stuff with the exception of hearing "I Don't Wanna Hear That Shit" earlier this year, which I admittedly like better than the remix (likely due to me being so used to hearing the song that way).

Don't get so sensitive over a remark like that, or any criticism for that matter. If the Jay cosign helps you out as much as Talib hoped it would him, then you are going to be reaching a much bigger audience in the future and, as a result, more criticism or nitpicking.

It took one of the first negative remarks of your album for you to reply in a thread where numerous people are giving your props. Don't focus so much on the haters (which I am not, as I clarified in the beginning of this reply), and enjoy the compliments you are getting.

  

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29. "i was a tad snippy, lol"
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just so used to seeing unreasonable criticism in general, not necessarily for this project

i dont mind at all if someones not feeling it

its just the nitpicking that irks me sometimes though

someone said they hated my Twitter avatar so they stopped listening to me

but you're right, most of the feedback has been positive

appreciate the clarification

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30. "RE: i was a tad snippy, lol"
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yo Danny! much respect for the album, i been rocking it non-stop since copping but i gotta question. any chance of any bonus tracks or any of the o.g. versions of joints that had completely different lyrics and/or beats leaking or being on a physical release as bonus cuts? I'm fiendin for more mayne....

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31. "its pretty fucking rad all-round"
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V.

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Oak27
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32. "Can someone fill me in on the beef with Childish Gambino?"
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I definitely heard multiple shots taken at his expense throughout the album.

  

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Ketchums
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33. "I doubt there is beef, honestly."
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He just likes clowning people sometimes, lol

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Oak27
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34. "Yeah I really can't tell when he's just clowning"
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or when he has actual beef. My only reason to asking about Gambino directly is because I heard a few mentions of him, and none of them were positive.

  

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35. "i take it as a rule of thumb"
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that whenever Danny pokes fun at a rapper, it's generally him trolling. I do think he has beef with Kids in the Hall though, I'm not sure what the back story is on that, but I know that he and Naledge used to be cool, now he takes shots at him.

But for the most part, if Danny takes a shot at a rapper, it's almost always for Lolz, and a few times he'll dis a rapper then end up working with him (ie: asher roth and blu)

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DredScott
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36. "RE: i take it as a rule of thumb"
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>that whenever Danny pokes fun at a rapper, it's generally him
>trolling. I do think he has beef with Kids in the Hall though,
>I'm not sure what the back story is on that, but I know that
>he and Naledge used to be cool, now he takes shots at him.
>
>But for the most part, if Danny takes a shot at a rapper, it's
>almost always for Lolz, and a few times he'll dis a rapper
>then end up working with him (ie: asher roth and blu)


Yeah, i figure that he usually is just messing with cats. i think that childish gambino beef stems from when he was trolling duke and recorded a prank call so to speak and gambino caught feelings. but on the real, i like a few joints by mr. glover but overall duke really ain't a dope rapper.

from what i heard the kidz in the hall drama is real though, since naledge and him used to rock on each other's tracks and whatnot on some for the love type ish but then all of a sudden naledge started acting brand new and wanted money to do a guest spot after danny! laced him free of charge for years. sounds legit especially since kidz done changed up their steez already to dub step and whatnot for some fame and money.

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Danny
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37. "you guys are spot on, as always"
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i clear it up in "myintrotoletuknow"
about how ghost and rae would bark on competition all the time
it was never personal
neither is what i do
people know i'm a jokester, mine is more for the "lol" than any ill feelings

'cept for DG
i got under his skin a little with the prank call
and rightfully so
since 15 is a mutual mentor figure i tried to hash it out
but then i heard this:

http://www.splicd.com/KG5vJKOwsjw/166/193

so the gloves went right back on

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38. "i gotta check this shit out!!!"
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Happy 50th D’Angelo: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/track/d-50

  

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Metal Face
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39. "AOTY"
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gamertag: MF ANDE

  

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Delajoo
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40. "bros, right now there are so many albums I'm trying to listen to"
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that are getting put on the back burner because any time of the day I'd rather be listening to PAYBACK.

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Stadiq
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41. "very curious about the OG album...any chance there's"
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still a stream out there?

  

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Ketchums
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42. "RE: very curious about the OG album...any chance there's"
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I think they're all taken down - and they were private for the most part anyway

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Danny
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43. "RE: Danny! - Payback Album Discussion"
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:'-)

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