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"GOOD Friday, I mean... Cruel Summer..."


  

          

It's out... and it's really nothing special...

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RE: GOOD Friday, I mean... Cruel Summer...
Sep 13th 2012
1
you mean telling 2 chainz how to rap over cheesy hudmo beats?
Sep 13th 2012
2
RE: you mean telling 2 chainz how to rap over cheesy hudmo beats?
Sep 13th 2012
7
      i was
Sep 13th 2012
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It has a couple tracks....
Sep 13th 2012
3
      RE: It has a couple tracks....
Sep 13th 2012
6
It leaked??
Sep 13th 2012
4
Nah... It exploded....
Sep 13th 2012
5
post goes poast in roughly 90 minutes
Sep 13th 2012
8
Reading on twitter about how Pusha T "took it to another level..."
Sep 13th 2012
10
prob not, or even OF the clipse
Sep 13th 2012
13
      You internet niggas stay doing the most. Grindin/Mr.Me Too?...
Sep 13th 2012
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I like it a lot, but I dig these kinda beats
Sep 13th 2012
11
who the fuck tagged these files?
Sep 13th 2012
12
lol *cringe*
Sep 13th 2012
16
Are we really at the point of complaining about tags on leaked albums?
Sep 13th 2012
18
      who the fuck tags files like that
Sep 13th 2012
19
           that's how a lot of people write nowadays, so it makes sense
Sep 13th 2012
21
           I guess, I just don't get upset about shit that like
Sep 13th 2012
25
                I get upset regardless if it doesn't look EXACTLY how I do it lol
Sep 13th 2012
26
                that's 2 things bass ackwards
Sep 13th 2012
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                When I get free shit or stuff someone else did work for, I'm happy with ...
Sep 13th 2012
29
                Oh I don't care if it comes that way
Sep 13th 2012
36
                i care, but i don't care
Sep 13th 2012
45
                I 100% agree with this though
Sep 13th 2012
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                FUCK
Sep 14th 2012
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                RE: I guess, I just don't get upset about shit that like
Sep 14th 2012
75
                     Yea, I do. Where's the best place to host a 500MBish file?
Sep 15th 2012
85
                          wetransfer.com
Sep 15th 2012
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                          ge.tt
Sep 15th 2012
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                          Bink! Production Discography
Sep 16th 2012
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Is it a clean version or explicit ...
Sep 13th 2012
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Explicit
Sep 13th 2012
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      thx fam ...
Sep 13th 2012
35
after one listen, the best songs are the one we've already heard
Sep 13th 2012
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i think its the other way around
Sep 13th 2012
20
      really? i guess i can see ye saying that shit in like 07
Sep 13th 2012
22
wow yeezy got action bronson to spit an extra verse on new god flow!
Sep 13th 2012
23
even cudi's song title is corny as fuck, this dude stays sucking
Sep 13th 2012
24
out of everybody they give him a solo song
Sep 13th 2012
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      Cudi's guest appearances suck? What?
Sep 13th 2012
30
           His hooks were GREAT
Sep 13th 2012
31
           yeah what an awful verse
Sep 13th 2012
33
           i fukkin love that verse yo
Sep 13th 2012
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           it's funny, cuz i really really hate that guy, but that's the one
Sep 18th 2012
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           lmao, yeah it did
Sep 13th 2012
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           I meant when he does a verse...that's why he needed a whole solo
Sep 13th 2012
34
           *Face Palm
Sep 14th 2012
70
its aight should have ended with the One Creepers and bliss
Sep 13th 2012
32
lmao. why would you add 3 yr old songs to a new album?
Sep 15th 2012
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      cause ITS MY MIX AN I CAN DO WHAT I WANT
Sep 17th 2012
95
I really dig Marsha Ambrosius' hook on The One
Sep 13th 2012
37
1-9 is crinnack.
Sep 13th 2012
38
You would eat shit if Kanye fed it to you...
Sep 13th 2012
50
http://i.imgur.com/qPsns.jpg
Sep 13th 2012
40
disagree but LMFAO
Sep 13th 2012
42
Lol!
Sep 13th 2012
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lmao
Sep 13th 2012
44
lol i cant even be mad at that execution.
Sep 13th 2012
46
okp type meme potential right here lmao
Sep 14th 2012
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*DEAD*
Sep 14th 2012
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winner
Sep 15th 2012
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what sample is that on The Morning?
Sep 13th 2012
41
yeah its D'Banj
Sep 13th 2012
47
Yall have the official version? With GFK on New Gold Flow?
Sep 13th 2012
49
The one with GFK doesn't seem to be on it
Sep 13th 2012
52
      Nah the official rip has that version on it.
Sep 13th 2012
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Few Thoughts
Sep 13th 2012
55
Really?.
Sep 14th 2012
56
Yeah. I think he works better in a group
Sep 14th 2012
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      he should've just signed the clipse
Sep 14th 2012
63
It really does
Sep 14th 2012
67
I can agree on all points here
Sep 14th 2012
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my 2 cents...
Sep 14th 2012
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ps...
Sep 14th 2012
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I agree with a lot of what you said on its foundation but
Sep 14th 2012
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      RE: I agree with a lot of what you said on its foundation but
Sep 14th 2012
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           RE: I agree with a lot of what you said on its foundation but
Sep 14th 2012
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                RE: I agree with a lot of what you said on its foundation but
Sep 15th 2012
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they aren't Ye beats though.
Sep 15th 2012
80
It's a good album that could've been great...
Sep 14th 2012
59
wasn't q-tip supposed to be on "the one"
Sep 14th 2012
62
the sound of kanye trying to keep up?
Sep 14th 2012
66
peep the song that broke him on Killer Mike's Undeerground Atlanta comp ...
Sep 14th 2012
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I fully welcome Hudson Mohawke to Kanye's team
Sep 14th 2012
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real talk
Sep 14th 2012
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Dude, the credits on this thing are easily the most bloated ever for a r...
Sep 14th 2012
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tell me this
Sep 15th 2012
79
New God Flow is the highlight, fuck everything else
Sep 15th 2012
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      I love it, right up until Kanye does that corny shit at the end of it
Sep 15th 2012
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           the end of the one I'm talking about is Ghostface
Sep 15th 2012
90
           RE: I love it, right up until Kanye does that corny shit at the end of i...
Sep 18th 2012
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                let me hear you say this shit is buhnanas
Sep 18th 2012
106
After a few days with it...
Sep 15th 2012
81
your calling hm Yasiin Bey so much is corny
Sep 17th 2012
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lmao
Sep 17th 2012
97
I guess?
Sep 25th 2012
110
Kanye should have a splinter group with those cats
Sep 25th 2012
107
my long winded thoughts/review
Sep 15th 2012
83
you know the thing is trash when kid cudi has one of the best tracks
Sep 15th 2012
91
Mase on Higher
Sep 15th 2012
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shit sounds like Kanye was trying to
Sep 17th 2012
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Cruel Summaaaa.......thats that shit i dont like!
Sep 17th 2012
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Pitchfork 6.5 SWIPE
Sep 18th 2012
100
I find it weird people act like CyHi can't rap his ass off
Sep 18th 2012
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i can't even take this review seriously, shittin on CyHi like this
Sep 25th 2012
108
      cyhi is wack
Sep 25th 2012
109
Very intriguing: Cruel Summer removed from iTunes, rumors of retouches
Sep 18th 2012
101
I noticed that too
Sep 18th 2012
102
I think it's to add the "movie"
Sep 18th 2012
103

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1. "RE: GOOD Friday, I mean... Cruel Summer..."
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Thu Sep-13-12 09:47 AM by double 0

          

I'd be interested to see if Ye cut it down to just co producing the shit with Hudson Mohawke how it would sound

EDIT: FUCK BLISS IS DOPE...

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2. "you mean telling 2 chainz how to rap over cheesy hudmo beats?"
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7. "RE: you mean telling 2 chainz how to rap over cheesy hudmo beats?"
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not a fan of hudmo I take it?

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9. "i was"
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but even back when he was good, there was always the element of cheese... now he's just swimming in it

  

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3. "It has a couple tracks...."
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BUt for the most part, It sounds a lot like the GOOD Friday tracks to me, but not as good... I'm hoping that this rumor that there are 4 more tracks out there that didn't make the leak is true... If not, this album is a letdown...

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6. "RE: It has a couple tracks...."
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>BUt for the most part, It sounds a lot like the GOOD Friday
>tracks to me, but not as good... I'm hoping that this rumor
>that there are 4 more tracks out there that didn't make the
>leak is true... If not, this album is a letdown...

from what I know.... there are way more than 4 tracks.... but it's a whole just idea bin of stuff that either ended up here... Ye's album or Jay's or Big sean' or Teyana Taylor or Pusha's joint.. etc...

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4. "It leaked??"
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>It's out... and it's really nothing special...

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I'll try my best to read, write and comprehend.

  

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5. "Nah... It exploded...."
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8. "post goes poast in roughly 90 minutes"
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10. "Reading on twitter about how Pusha T "took it to another level...""
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Have none of these people heard a Clipse album???

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13. "prob not, or even OF the clipse"
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39. "You internet niggas stay doing the most. Grindin/Mr.Me Too?..."
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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11. "I like it a lot, but I dig these kinda beats"
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12. "who the fuck tagged these files?"
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2 Chainz And Common And Cyhi The Prynce And D'Banj And Kid Cudi And Pusha T And Raekwon

  

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16. "lol *cringe*"
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>2 Chainz And Common And Cyhi The Prynce And D'Banj And Kid
>Cudi And Pusha T And Raekwon


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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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18. "Are we really at the point of complaining about tags on leaked albums?"
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Jeez...

It takes two seconds to fix, my dude.

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19. "who the fuck tags files like that"
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who on this earth is walking around with tracks featuring multiple artists, tagged with 'and' between every name

  

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21. "that's how a lot of people write nowadays, so it makes sense"
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stay in school, kids...

  

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25. "I guess, I just don't get upset about shit that like"
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It's an album that costs money being made available to you for free.

I remember I posted a 350MB .rar file of all the songs (up to that point) Bink! had ever produced on here a while back. Shit that I compiled myself. And there were more people complaining about the tags than saying thanks.

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26. "I get upset regardless if it doesn't look EXACTLY how I do it lol"
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like when I see people's iPods and they've got artists that are Kanye West, Jay-Z & Big Sean I (don't really but do) flip out. Those features go in the TRACK TITLE dammit!


Every time I add something to iTunes, purchased or not, I go over it totally editing the track titles, adding producers to the composer field, samples to the notes if I know/can find them, label to the grouping, put the right genre on there, etc. etc. I can't handle seeing all that messiness and lack of info


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28. "that's 2 things bass ackwards"
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>like when I see people's iPods and they've got artists that
>are Kanye West, Jay-Z & Big Sean I (don't really but do) flip
>out. Those features go in the TRACK TITLE dammit!


>adding producers to the composer field


but i have my system, too

  

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29. "When I get free shit or stuff someone else did work for, I'm happy with ..."
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If I want to make changes to things like tags, then fine, but I'm sure as shit not gonna be mad about the lack of acceptable tags on a leaked album.

What kinda beggars being choosers fuckery is that?

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36. "Oh I don't care if it comes that way"
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but if you don't change it immediately afterwards, I am disappoint.

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45. "i care, but i don't care"
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i was really just making a joke
but whatever

  

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48. "I 100% agree with this though"
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>like when I see people's iPods and they've got artists that
>are Kanye West, Jay-Z & Big Sean I (don't really but do) flip
>out. Those features go in the TRACK TITLE dammit!

SMH It's like people don't even care.

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72. "FUCK"
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i missed that? shit nigga.

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75. "RE: I guess, I just don't get upset about shit that like"
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>It's an album that costs money being made available to you
>for free.
>
>I remember I posted a 350MB .rar file of all the songs (up to
>that point) Bink! had ever produced on here a while back. Shit
>that I compiled myself. And there were more people complaining
>about the tags than saying thanks.

Do you still have this? I need this in my life.

  

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85. "Yea, I do. Where's the best place to host a 500MBish file?"
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"I may curse, I may have a bad mouth, whatever whatever. I'm not that bad, yaknow'mean. Bad to y'all, I dunno how y'all... I don't give a fuck. Um, I'm a good person at heart, for real and shit.

  

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86. "wetransfer.com"
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89. "ge.tt"
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folks can start downloading the file while you're still uploading it, for starters.


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93. "Bink! Production Discography"
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The tagging on the files should be proper, but there may be some songs that have tags on them because finding one without was too difficult.

http://ge.tt/1ccPYnN?c

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"I may curse, I may have a bad mouth, whatever whatever. I'm not that bad, yaknow'mean. Bad to y'all, I dunno how y'all... I don't give a fuck. Um, I'm a good person at heart, for real and shit.

  

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14. "Is it a clean version or explicit ..."
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... just wondering.

  

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15. "Explicit"
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"I may curse, I may have a bad mouth, whatever whatever. I'm not that bad, yaknow'mean. Bad to y'all, I dunno how y'all... I don't give a fuck. Um, I'm a good person at heart, for real and shit.

  

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35. "thx fam ..."
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... tryna get a clean edit for the young ears.

  

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17. "after one listen, the best songs are the one we've already heard"
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with the exception of that "Don't Like" remix, which I haven't heard until now, but apparently has been out for a while... that song is trash.

Going right into a second listen.

Also, sounds a lot like Kanye blends into the rappers he surrounds himself with. That "I'm a god shitting on you, holy crap" line sounds like some bullshit 2 Chainz would rap about you

  

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20. "i think its the other way around"
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>Also, sounds a lot like Kanye blends into the rappers he
>surrounds himself with.

these nghs startin to sound like Ye

  

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22. "really? i guess i can see ye saying that shit in like 07"
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but i still feel like he dumbs it down, or at least tries to adapt his style to the people he's rapping with. maybe it's because a lot of these new cats' styles are influenced partly by kanye, so kanye is in turn borrowing a style that was developed from his style originally. either way, i much prefer ye's lyrics on tracks that don't feature lame-o rappers

  

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23. "wow yeezy got action bronson to spit an extra verse on new god flow!"
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jk guys, relax

  

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24. "even cudi's song title is corny as fuck, this dude stays sucking"
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27. "out of everybody they give him a solo song"
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like they know his guest apperances be so wack they had to give him a solo song...I'll be happier if they just stuck Exdous on there.

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30. "Cudi's guest appearances suck? What?"
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Dude killed every hook he was on on the G.O.O.D. Friday joints.

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31. "His hooks were GREAT"
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But that verse on Christian Dior Denim Flow? Yuck (c) Pusha T

Avy: Tyrion disrespects King Joffrey yet again

"If your life consists of NO drankin, NO drugs, NO loose booty, NO fatty foods, NO additives, NO preservatives, AND no waings.......then what the fuck you wanna live so long for, boring ass n****?" - Tay

  

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33. "yeah what an awful verse"
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only downsides of that song are the length and cudi verse. not coincidentally you can kill two birds with one stone with that one.

  

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54. "i fukkin love that verse yo"
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Bitches better have they thoughts before approachin

  

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99. "it's funny, cuz i really really hate that guy, but that's the one"
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moment from him that i actually dig... i don't think it's that i think his verse was good... nothing rhymed and he's just terrible to listen to.. but for some reason, i think he rounded that song out nicely... maybe it was the guitars coming in? maybe it was him trying to add a little melody to the "rhymes" (not that ANY of it rhymed)... who knows..


but this shit on cruel summer??? word? i still can't wrap my mind around ppl liking that guy... maybe i'm a hater, but it actually really frustrates me when i hear anyone speaking positively about cudi..

  

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51. "lmao, yeah it did"
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"ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy nowwwwwwwwwww, on my arm twenty thousand
I'm all good now, a nigga don't need no counselor"

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34. "I meant when he does a verse...that's why he needed a whole solo"
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song casue he only good for hooks.

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70. "*Face Palm"
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>Dude killed every hook he was on on the G.O.O.D. Friday
>joints.

Dude's hooks are enjoyable, but his verses are unlistenable.

  

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32. "its aight should have ended with the One Creepers and bliss "
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are so not needed here is my 1.5.

01. Kanye West, R. Kelly – “To The World”
02. Kanye West, Jay-Z & Big Sean – “Clique”
03. Kanye West, Big Sean, Pusha T & 2 Chainz – “Mercy”
04. Kanye West, Pusha T, Ghostface Killah – “New God Flow”
05. Raekwon, Pusha T, Common, 2 Chainz, CyHi Da Prynce, Kid Cudi & D’Banj – “The Morning”
06. Kanye West & DJ Khaled – “Cold”
07. Pusha T & the dream-Exdous 23.1
08. John Legend, Travi $ Scott, Teyana Taylor, CyHi Da Prynce & Malik Yusef – “Sin City”
09. Take One For The Team (Ft. Keri Hilson, Pusha T, ChHi Da Prynce)
10. Christian Dior Denim Flow (Ft. Kanye,West, Kid Cudi, Pusha T, Lloyd Banks, John Legend, Ryan Leslie)
11. Good Friday (Ft. Kanye West, Common, Pusha T, Kid Cudi, Big Sean, Charlie Wilson)
12. Looking For Trouble (Ft. Pusha T, Kanye West, Cyhi the Prynce, Big Sean & J. Cole)
13. The One (ft. Kanye West, Big Sean, 2 Chainz & Marsha Ambrosius
14. Kanye West, Chief Keef, Pusha T, Big Sean & Jadakiss – “Don’t Like (Remix)”

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88. "lmao. why would you add 3 yr old songs to a new album?"
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>09. Take One For The Team (Ft. Keri Hilson, Pusha T, ChHi Da Prynce)
>10. Christian Dior Denim Flow (Ft. Kanye,West, Kid Cudi, Pusha T, Lloyd Banks, John Legend, Ryan Leslie)
>11. Good Friday (Ft. Kanye West, Common, Pusha T, Kid Cudi, Big Sean, Charlie Wilson)
>12. Looking For Trouble (Ft. Pusha T, Kanye West, Cyhi the Prynce, Big Sean & J. Cole)

those good friday songs are from the mbdtf sessions (late '09 - early '10)

i'm sorry, that's just really peculiar to me. i mean, i get it, i resequence albums all the time myself, but w/ outtakes from the same sessions.

lol, you might as well add "ny state of mind" to "life is good". (obvious exaggeration but yeah)

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95. "cause ITS MY MIX AN I CAN DO WHAT I WANT"
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and them songs never made an album and they work with the contex of the album...those good friday songs was basically his dynasty album.

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37. "I really dig Marsha Ambrosius' hook on The One"
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n/m

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38. "1-9 is crinnack."
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great album.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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50. "You would eat shit if Kanye fed it to you..."
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n/m

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40. "http://i.imgur.com/qPsns.jpg"
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http://i.imgur.com/qPsns.jpg

  

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42. "disagree but LMFAO"
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43. "Lol!"
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That's good shit right there. I disagree but that shit is funny.

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44. "lmao"
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46. "lol i cant even be mad at that execution."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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65. "okp type meme potential right here lmao"
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76. "*DEAD*"
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78. "winner"
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◦◦◦
http://oi40.tinypic.com/2enp550.jpg
http://i.minus.com/iQBdCzZIftHZ2.gif

  

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41. "what sample is that on The Morning?"
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or is that just D'Banj

  

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47. "yeah its D'Banj"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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49. "Yall have the official version? With GFK on New Gold Flow?"
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52. "The one with GFK doesn't seem to be on it"
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The Ghost verse is tagged by Flex and is on mp3 blogs.

  

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53. "Nah the official rip has that version on it."
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55. "Few Thoughts"
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1. This thing falls off a cliff after 5 songs or so.

2. This album suffers from a lack of vision/concept which is/was Ye's greatest strength. Ye needs to get back with Amber Rose.

3. Big Sean works best when he has one verse on a song and nothing more.

4. NO WAY Pusha can hold down a solo album.

5. This probably should have been a 5 song EP with the rest of the songs given to Teyanna Taylor and Cyhi for their inevitably-shelved albums.

  

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56. "Really?."
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>
>4. NO WAY Pusha can hold down a solo album.
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61. "Yeah. I think he works better in a group"
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That album is going to be loaded to the gills with guest spots.

  

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63. "he should've just signed the clipse"
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i agree.

  

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67. "It really does"
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>1. This thing falls off a cliff after 5 songs or so.

I was thinking this shit would be a monster based on the first few tracks, then it fizzles out fast.

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68. "I can agree on all points here"
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except I really like track 6 (Cold), though it's been out for months.

  

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57. "my 2 cents..."
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this is so pretentious i can't even finish a single track.
i'd venture that this album is going to be a real chore even for somebody less jaded than me.

whoever told this dude he was doing something with 4 note piano melodies extended into "epicness" via arrangement needs to be put down.

the thing that ye completely doesn't get is that regardless of how grandiose you try to make the production on something sound with effects and arrangement - the fact your music has the skill level and sophistication of a 8 year old who has taken 2 weeks of piano lessons is not going to be overlooked.
it CAN'T be overlooked because you fucking work off repeating "loops" that have no change - so we hear it for the entire 4 minutes.
...loops that contain playing of simple melodies in the simplest possible phrasing with a whole slew of fx/arrangement added.
like you might be able to fool pitchfork because they only judge music based on "style" so i'm sure if mbdtf was a 10/10 then this is like a 27/10 to them.
but this shit is dud-city to me.
ye has been firing duds since 2008 imo.
the one positive is at least he shortened down the arrangements...
the bad thing is that the songs still FEEL 9 minutes long because the music and playing is so redundant.
black music is so dull.
i mean it's real simple: these dudes drank their own koolaid in the late 00's and now they think they're incredible artists because they are so rich and adorned with attention - but you put them down at the keys and they couldn't even play twinkle, twinkle little star without doing 19 takes.
this is where black MUSIC is at, people.
eventually it comes to the surface even if you don't realize "what" exactly it is you don't like.
smoke and mirrors.
david copperfield rap.
infact, the "epicness" on this makes the backing music sound like something he would use as background music for one of his specials in the 80s.
just my take. i loved graduation, liked college dropout, was indifferent to everything else he did solo.

  

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58. "ps..."
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mercy is one of the most annoying rap songs i've ever heard.

like that sample matched with that repeating melody is just absolutely disasterious.

i know that song "succeeded" on the charts but it was such a dud.
it never should have been released as a single.
it's a straight-up album cut and a shitty one at that.

  

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60. "I agree with a lot of what you said on its foundation but"
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Mercy is one badass song, I could listen to it for minutes and minutes

And I gave MBDTF a 10/10 for PopMatters, but this one is dancing between a 5 and a 7 right now. Sometimes I feel like you try so hard to be jaded that you become jaded by your jadedness, in the process becoming jaded even of your own thoughts.

~~~~~~~~~
"This is the streets, and I am the trap." © Jay Bilas

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64. "RE: I agree with a lot of what you said on its foundation but"
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>Mercy is one badass song, I could listen to it for minutes
>and minutes

it's your life and your free to waste it however you see fit.

>And I gave MBDTF a 10/10 for PopMatters, but this one is
>dancing between a 5 and a 7 right now. Sometimes I feel like
>you try so hard to be jaded that you become jaded by your
>jadedness, in the process becoming jaded even of your own
>thoughts.

pandora's box opened for me a long time ago.
which is something you people would rather remain blissfully "ostrich" on.
i get it.

  

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69. "RE: I agree with a lot of what you said on its foundation but"
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2 things..

Mercy is DOPE.. however the RL GRIME remix might surpass the OG

Kanye didnt produce anything on this... it's Hud Mo, Illmind, Hit Boy and some randoms

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82. "RE: I agree with a lot of what you said on its foundation but"
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>2 things..
>
>Mercy is DOPE.. however the RL GRIME remix might surpass the
>OG
>
>Kanye didnt produce anything on this... it's Hud Mo, Illmind,
>Hit Boy and some randoms


Yeah...this..."Mercy" is actually a good song...

And the verdict on the whole joint?

Middle of the road....I expected more...

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80. "they aren't Ye beats though."
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59. "It's a good album that could've been great..."
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enjoyable listen
has one of the worst closing songs ever though
+ it doesn't fit with the flow of all the rest.
Like someone already said, this is Ye's Dynasty album,
Christian Dior Flow should've been on there

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62. "wasn't q-tip supposed to be on "the one""
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maybe defjam pulled all the q-tip features.
mos would've been solid.
its cool, nothing too game changing.
solid crew album

  

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66. "the sound of kanye trying to keep up?"
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and him being mostly unsuccessful at doing so? i don't know how cohesive this album "should" be since it's basically a label sampler but i guess i expect more from mr kardashian at this point. nothing else to say about this that hasn't already said in this thread except that mrshow is really on point with post 55

i really like cyhi. that is to say, i have very much enjoyed the 4 songs i've heard him on (so appalled, the song off self made 1, and the 2 tracks on cruel summer). hope he gets a proper chance at success in the future

  

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74. "peep the song that broke him on Killer Mike's Undeerground Atlanta comp ..."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIKbEskD4qI

loved this song that summer. He was on Akon's label at the time and going by Prynce CyHi.

also, the song he did for How to Make It in America was dope too







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71. "I fully welcome Hudson Mohawke to Kanye's team"
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I liked his part on Mercy, the R Kelly track and really liked "Bliss". Has that 80's funk revival sound that Dam Funk

  

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73. "real talk"
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i was ridiculously happy to see his and illmind's names on this biocth

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77. "Dude, the credits on this thing are easily the most bloated ever for a r..."
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like, it's not just a showcase for his vocal artists, apparently everybody working for the label got a piece of SOMETHING...it's kind of amazing that they're saying this many guys were attached to something that really doesn't feel that grand...


1|Kanye West - To the World (feat. R. Kelly)|3:51 (Produced by Pop, Kanye West, Hudson Mohawke, Ken Lewis, Million $ Mano, Travi$ Scott & Anthony Kilhoffer)
2|Kanye West - Clique (feat. Jay-Z & Big Sean)|4:54 (Produced by Hit-Boy, Kanye West, Anthony Kilhoffer & 40)
3|Kanye West - Mercy (feat. Big Sean, Pusha T & 2 Chainz)|5:33 (Produced by Lifted, Mike Dean, Mike Will, Kanye West & Hudson Mohawke)
4|Kanye West - New God Flow (feat. Pusha T & Ghostface Killah)|4:55 (Produced by Kanye West, Boogz & Tapez & Anthony Kilhoffer)
5|Raekwon - The Morning (feat. Pusha T, Common, 2 Chainz, Cyhi da Prynce, Kid Cudi & D'Banj)|4:35 (Produced by Kanye West, Illmind, Jeff Bhasker & Travi$ Scott)
6|Kanye West - Cold (feat. DJ Khaled)|3:42 (Produced by Hit-Boy)
7|The-Dream - Higher (feat. Pusha T & Ma$e)|4:35 (Produced by Hit-Boy, Kanye West & Mike Dean)
8|John Legend - Sin City (feat. Travi$ Scott, Teyana Taylor, Cyhi da Prynce & Malik Yusef)|4:28 (Produced by Tommy Brown & Travi$ Scott)
9|Kanye West - The One (feat. Big Sean, 2 Chainz & Marsha Ambrosius)|5:45 (Produced by Kanye West, Hudson Mohawke, The Twilite Tone, Anthony Kilhoffer, Mannie Fresh & Lifted)
10|Kid Cudi - Creepers|3:14 (Produced by Dan Black)
11|John Legend - Bliss (feat. Teyana Taylor)|3:30 (Produced by Hudson Mohawke)
12|Chief Keef - Don't Like (feat. Kanye West, Pusha T, Big Sean & Jadakiss)|4:44 (Produced by Young Chop, Kanye West, The Twilite Tone & 40)



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79. "tell me this"
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i thoroughly enjoyed mercy and thought clique was marginally entertaining

will i like the rest of the album?

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84. "New God Flow is the highlight, fuck everything else"
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>i thoroughly enjoyed mercy and thought clique was marginally
>entertaining
>
>will i like the rest of the album?
>
>
I tried to front on it when I heard it live due to it basically rehashing one of my favorite Supreme Clientele cuts (Mighty Healthy) but that shit goes so hard & they reached back to Ghost for a verse on the album version.

But Pusha *destroys* that & the beat goes so hard with those Mighty Healthy drums and the piano line over it.

If you don't feel that song, rap music might not be for you.

  

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87. "I love it, right up until Kanye does that corny shit at the end of it"
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Wow. Nobody could convince him that was a bad idea?

  

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90. "the end of the one I'm talking about is Ghostface "
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>Wow. Nobody could convince him that was a bad idea?

Apparently someone did. The album version does not have that part and replaces it with a Ghostface verse.

  

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106. "let me hear you say this shit is buhnanas"
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B-U-H-N-A-N-A-S!

  

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81. "After a few days with it..."
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I'm no longer upset that Yasiin Bey, Q-Tip and Common don't have a bigger presence on the album.

G.O.O.D. Music's brand right now is opulence and brashness, and that isn't the steez that Yasiin Bey, Q-Tip and Common best represent. That's not to say that a solo song by Yasiin Bey, Q-Tip, or Common wouldn't have fit on Cruel Summer - especially since Cudi had his own. But I can see why Yasiin, Q-Tip and Common aren't really there.

If anything, Yasiin/Common/Q-Tip would've made sense if Cruel Summer dropped in 05-08. During the Late Registration, Be, Finding Forever, Don't Lose Your Day Job era of the crew.

The LP is a good representation of where G.O.O.D. seems to be at now, so I'm pretty happy with it. I really think Pusha-T solidified how he fits into the fabric of the crew on this album, he's the MVP here. Sean continued to showcase his stylish lane too, and the other cameos make sense. REALLY glad 'Ye took that wack ass breakdown out of "New God Flow," and even more glad he put Ghostface on the song to pay homage.

...I still wouldn't be mad if there were a few iTunes bonus tracks with Bey and Tip though.

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96. "your calling hm Yasiin Bey so much is corny"
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I'm laughin

  

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97. "lmao"
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110. "I guess?"
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I used his name just as much as I used anyone else's.

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107. "Kanye should have a splinter group with those cats"
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I use to love Kanye bringing different worlds together (Mos and Freeway on Two Words) but at least he use to find a commonality that such artists could connect on.

here I cringe at the idea of Big Keef and Mos being on the same track.


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83. "my long winded thoughts/review"
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6/10


(my long winded thoughts, with scores later after the Nebraska game, or maybe the Bama game)

While Cruel Summer appears much later into Kanye's headlining career, it's hard to avoid comparisons to Jay-Z's similar minded The Dynasty released in 2000. Like that album, Cruel Summer aims to do what the G.O.O.D. Music brand has always been aimed to do, which is promote all the artists Kanye's aligned himself with by plastering his name all over it. And names are certainly plastered here. Aside from Mos Def, any vocal name you might have assumed was a G.O.O.D. signee presents themselves here, usually multiple times - Big Sean, Common, John Legend, Pusha T, The-Dream, 2 Chainz, Teyana Taylor, KiD CuDi and CyHi da Prynce all make appearances, with special guest appearances from DJ Khaled, Jadakiss, Ghostface Killah (adding a verse to the "Mighty Healthy sampling "New God Flow"), Ma$e (helloooooo, Ma$e!) and R. Kelly, among others. And that's just the vocals. It's hard to dedicate an introductory paragraph to name drops, but that's what a lot of Cruel Summer appears to amount to so let's breakdown whose names appear many times on the production side: Hudson Mohawke, Travi$ Scott, Hit-Boy, Anthony Kilhoffer, Noah Shebib, Lifted, Mike Dean, Twilite Tone and of course Kanye himself. In total, 19 names appear in this album's production credits and just those 9 appear more than once (Kanye, of course, more than doubles second best Kilhoffer's four credits with eight).

All of this is notable because throughout Cruel Summer's run time it consistently feels like a release that was so dramatically slaved over for a primarily hip-hop LP, and yet truly doesn't feel much disconnected from the typical hip-hop release. The sheer number of names that appear here seem determined to make you understand Cruel Summer is the biggest hip-hop album ever, when really it's just another in a long line of headlining rappers' attempts to make their friends mean something. The first half of this album is decidedly influenced by Atlanta's perpetual trap movement, constantly flirting with pop concepts as is Kanye and his collaborators' wont but eventually always settling into the same patterns we've come to know these past two summers. "Mercy", undoubtedly Cruel Summer's most iconic track and single, boasts five of the names dropped above behind the boards and yet the track's certainly not a decidedly divergent experience compared to the blog norm. In fact, it's so often the tracks that boast the most name recognition - "The One" contains four vocals and six production credits - that end up seeming most regular.

Cruel Summer, from the very start and to its great credit, pretends to be nothing more than an experiment in grand hubris. "To the World" opens Cruel Summer with an R. Kelly and Teyana Taylor themed chorus that promises middle fingers to every citizen on Earth, claims that world to be the couch upon which Dave Chappelle's Rick James caricature jumps up and down, and stakes remain as high throughout its 54 minutes. If you're the sort that loves to attach politics to their music, perhaps your focus ultimately lies on the album-ending "I Don't Like Remix", that much ballyhooed Chief Keef track which Kanye played around with and tossed to his friends in order to make a huge internet splash long before the sixteen-year old Keef was considered a true danger to society. It's appearance here is interesting both for its ignorance of the five tracks that came before it - all of which are doped up on R&B and uprising - and for Kanye's apparent denial of what the song now represents to the mainstream. On a disc that features a track like "Sin City", curated by a Chicago native that rapped specifically about his disappointment with Chicago's crime problem on last year's Watch the Throne ("Murder to Excellence"), it's a perplexing inclusion. That said, in a vacuum it remains a highlight of the disc.

While obvious that some great pains were taken to make this album have some sense of flow - "The Morning" boasts four producers who had nothing to do with "Cold" (formerly leaked as "Theraflu") and yet the tracks sound like siblings - it inevitably collapses under its own weight. It's a label showcase, and that's totally acceptable at this point in Kanye's career, but that doesn't make the transition from the de facto A side's swagger rap to the de facto B side's R&B aspirationalism any more palatable. Two tracks appear especially awkwardly, primarily "Sin City" (the other is "Bliss", a John Legend and Teyana Taylor duet produced by Hudson Mohawke that feels like Dam-Funk stepped into the major leagues). While well produced and well-intentioned, "Sin City" preaches to decency while surrounded by Kanye threatening to film murders on Youtube (or at the very least get a guy fired from his job for marrying his girlfriend before they'd started dating), Pusha T consistently offering money and designer goods to women in exchange for infidelity, Big Sean bragging about his penis and 2 Chainz playing at cartoonish drug dealer. None of those things are inherently negative in rap music - the more boundaries pushed the better, truthfully - but to sandwich this one incredibly boring song into the middle of it just feels like stretching concepts thin. Either Cruel Summer is a summer record come late, or it's a hodgepodge of ideas struggling to become bigger than they are. My money's on the latter.

Viewed through its singles (and cover art), the problem with Cruel Summer would most obviously be that it strongly desires to be Watch the Throne despite lacking the focus of two singular artists (Kanye and Jay-Z) hanging out in Paris hotel rooms drinking champagne all day. And as a panorama, it's apparent that Cruel Summer will unintentionally draw sides between those who want to hear cool sounds and word play over thunderous trap 808s and those who want to hear R&B hooks about the woes of the world. So many cooks are in this kitchen that it ultimately lacks distinction, like a restaurant with so many options no one's ever sure what they're returning for. Cruel Summer is certainly an accomplished CD, and perhaps by sheer numbers can claim to be as massive as it assumes, but it's mostly a disc that don't have much unifying character other than "yea, this sounds as big as G.O.O.D. Music's ego."

Cruel Summer is an album that's easy to criticize, but perhaps part of that comes from the lofty expectations Kanye's placed on his projects since the beginning of G.O.O.D. Fridays in 2010. One would hope for the best of the many contact list posse cuts he's been handing out over the years and/or hiding on his hard drives, but instead we mostly get the B roll. "To the World" is triumphant in ways that only an R. Kelly/Kanye West collaboration could be, but it's bogged down a bit by sophomoric lyricism (R. Kelly is singularly focused on inciting worldwide bird flight, of the human middle finger variety) and Teyana Taylor's breathy vocals. "Creepers" gives KiD CuDi the only non-Kanye solo track on the CD, and while very lush sounding and admirably egotistical it's evident this was mainly because KiD CuDi has no place among the other artists on the roster. The track amounts to CuDi dancing around in the background of the "Mercy" video, awkwardly reminding us he hangs out with these much more interesting people. "Higher" is carried by The-Dream's trademark preciousness overload, but Ma$e appears out of nowhere to drop this really goofy verse about his money and running into fellow former Bad Boy Loon for a debate on religion ("I bumped into Loon he like, 'Well, as-salamu alaykum' / You know I ain't Muslim my *****, I'm about my bacon") that's either the best or worst rapper moment on the album depending on your nostalgia for Harlem World. Most admirable certainly goes to Big Sean, though, who feels like a much more exciting presence surrounded by superstars than he has on his own Finally Famous releases.

Every track on this album has a flaw worth pointing out, but they all make an argument why they're worth listening to as well. Inevitably, its mileage is going to be determined by listeners' interest in the bit players, and the cartoonishly grandiose yet staunchly in step with the mainstream music that backs them up. It's an album you've ultimately got to hear if post-808s & Heartbreaks Kanye West registers as one of the most exciting elements in pop music, but if you're sour on him or uninterested in his disciples there's little here to look forward to with seven of the twelve tracks carrying some baggage in plain sight and at least six of them having been released months prior to the album's release on Ye's twitter anyway. Combined with everything that's fallen under the G.O.O.D. Friday umbrella over the past two years, its hard not to argue a more cohesive and user-generated showcase for the label might just exist out there for free.


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91. "you know the thing is trash when kid cudi has one of the best tracks"
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92. "Mase on Higher"
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In-fucking-credible

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94. "shit sounds like Kanye was trying to"
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get into heaven but god called security
on him cause he was too effeminate..so kanye
went to some club to blow off steam,,he then got
pissy drunk.. ended up gettingsome face
in the bathroom then fell a-sleep to wake up with
doo-doo in his panties

Big swing swing with bangers and thing thingers Soul glo zinging all over the ring finger

Spence..M.Garcia..Thurman..Lomachenko

  

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98. "Cruel Summaaaa.......thats that shit i dont like!"
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100. "Pitchfork 6.5 SWIPE"
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http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/16994-cruel-summer/


Cruel Summer is not Kanye West's record; listening to it, I found a certain peace in reminding myself of this. Cruel Summer is a crew album, a chance for all of the rappers he's signed to his G.O.O.D. imprint during the past few years to momentarily feel like they own the place. They range from former greats like Pusha-T to half-decent punchline rappers like Big Sean to entourage bottom-feeders like CyHi the Prince, and spending a long time in their presence can feel like being trapped in a reality-TV house. Kanye drops by occasionally, but he mostly feels a million miles away. Kanye's career has been built on maniacal quality control, but Cruel Summer feels uncharacteristically disposable.

Even the title is botched. The album arrives on September 18, with school in session and the season's cruelest days far behind us. This day late/dollar short feeling persists throughout. The production is often cluttered with unnecessary effects, like the vocal "whoa-oh-oh" synth pads West threw on his remix of Chief Keef's "I Don't Like" when he couldn't figure out how to improve it. Songs take ill-advised turns. After verses from Raekwon, Common, Pusha T, 2 Chainz, and CyHi the Prince are hurled at you like a handful of action figures on "The Morning", the song inexplicably changes key so that Nigerian singer D'Banj can warble in Auto-Tune. "Sin City" starts out with a generic dubstep low-end before transitioning into a mortifying slam-poetry performance by Malik Yusef. And then when that's over, who should come along next but... CyHi the Prince. Again.

If Kanye had resisted the temptation to stuff Cruel Summer with his LucasArts production magic, it might have worked as a pure bid for rap radio's dead center. With "Niggas in Paris", West got closer to that center than he'd been in a while; My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, for all its accolades, struggled to find its foothold on the pop charts. There are a handful of hits here, and they range from the pretty good to the fantastic. You've probably heard them all by now, and they will outlive this comp; they are are the reason the record deserves to exist.

Cruel Summer's secret MVP is Hit-Boy, the producer who brought Kanye the "Paris" beat; he shows up on with "Cold" (formerly known as "Theraflu"), a sleekly coursing West solo track in which he hashes out the increasingly silly details of his life -- his jealousy towards Kim Kardashian's 72-day husband Kris Humphries; his adventures go-karting with Polish models -- with his trademark aggrieved sense of urgency. Hit-Boy also offers up "Clique", a transfixing, Timbaland-like collection of hiccups and synth strobes. "Clique" is haughty, spotless, and coldly perfect; it sounds like bottle service. West takes the opportunity to sneer at former CIA director George Tenet's car

Apart from Hit-Boy's contributions, there are two tracks from Hudson Mohawke, the rising Glasgow producer whose compellingly fractured beats have caught the ear of hip-hop figures like Just Blaze. Neither of his contributions ("To the World" and "The One") sound like anything off of his riotous Satin Panthers EP, but they are welcome signs that Mohawke is moving into high-profile hip-hop territory. "To the World", a track featuring R. Kelly that's built off a slightly stiff drumline beat and swarms of string plucks, benefits from an animated turn from Kanye, who mangles Francis Ford Coppola's name hilariously and taunts Mitt Romney in a nagging singsong for failing to disclose his taxes.

But once the early run of singles are out of the way, things start to go south. By the time you get to Kid CuDi's dribbly alt-rock solo turn "Creepers" (actual lyric: "If I had one wish, it'd be to have more wishes/ Duh... Fuck trying to make it rhyme") it seems like even the artists involved have left the room. Pusha-T huffs and snorts a lot, but drops lines like "wherever we go, we do it pronto." You'd never guess from his performance here that he was once a member of Clipse. Big Sean, who's shown flickering signs of wanting to actually rap lately, sits back and offers terrible puns on the word "ass." R&B singer Teyana Taylor comes nowhere near her work on Twisted Fantasy.

It's the sense of Event, which has become as much of an art for Kanye as his music over the years, that is most blatantly missing here. The only people who seem to recognize what's at stake are the old-timers. Ma$e, of all people, shows up out of nowhere on "Higher" to lick shots at his former rival Bad Boy rival Loon: No one cares, but he still sounds slick. And then there's Ghostface, who roars to life at the end of "New God Flow", a track based off his own "Mighty Healthy" from 2000's classic Supreme Clientele. Ghost's appearance is an obvious prestige-casting move, but still a perfect one, and he makes the most of it, reliving his Pretty Toney days one more time. A handful of guests aside, though, none of G.O.O.D. Music's personalities do much to justify their newfound prominence. If Cruel Summer is meant to be an argument for the label's other talent, it makes a weak case.

  

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104. "I find it weird people act like CyHi can't rap his ass off"
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Granted, I'm a fan, but I can sorta see why people say dude lacks the presence to have a meaningful solo career. I don't necessarily agree, but I get it.

However, every verse he has on here is awesome.

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108. "i can't even take this review seriously, shittin on CyHi like this"
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this is what's wrong with hip-hop, fans, reviewers don't know dick, they just ride whatever wave they think they're supposed to... same magazine dick rides asap rocky, who's a "swag" rapper with average bars etc, but think cyhi's wack? who's a swag rapper with technically dope bars

  

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109. "cyhi is wack"
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nigga rap like paint drying.

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101. "Very intriguing: Cruel Summer removed from iTunes, rumors of retouches"
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and bonus tracks swirling...


but the retail dropped in the UK last night, and I haven't been to any stores but I would assume that means the US stores will be opening with copies today also


so why was it taken down from the iTunes store completely?



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102. "I noticed that too"
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Guess I'll hold off for a while.

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103. "I think it's to add the "movie""
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"I may curse, I may have a bad mouth, whatever whatever. I'm not that bad, yaknow'mean. Bad to y'all, I dunno how y'all... I don't give a fuck. Um, I'm a good person at heart, for real and shit.

  

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