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Delajoo
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"Spin-Off: When did Trap & EDM Converge? "
Thu Sep-06-12 12:28 AM by Delajoo

  

          

There's a couple of other threads about this, and theres the one on the main page now about the LiveMixtapes doc, but I'm trying to trace back the point where you could start to hear elements of that Southern Trap sound in Dance Music. Right now this is as far as I've been able to find

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_6j2A630_Q

Any help would be appreciated (even really far back finds that are somewhat reaching)

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lol that's a pretty hilarious instrumental cover of One Minute Man
Sep 06th 2012
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Personally...i traced it back to an EDM/Trap joint from 2010
Sep 06th 2012
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nice one
Sep 06th 2012
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cornish trap
Sep 06th 2012
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Joker & Rustie - Play Doe (2008)
Sep 06th 2012
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It's been a long time coming
Sep 06th 2012
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      you cant really talk about the uk i dont think
Nov 15th 2012
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           its pretty much a thing already man
Nov 15th 2012
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idk but that's that shit i dont like
Nov 15th 2012
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. . .
Nov 15th 2012
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Off topic, but I was drunk at a club one night, and they mixed "Bigger t...
Nov 15th 2012
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Sounds awful
Nov 15th 2012
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Nodima
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1. "lol that's a pretty hilarious instrumental cover of One Minute Man"
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My guess would be 2010 at the very earliest, though depending on how specific you want to be you could probably go back to 2006 or 2007, when Jeezy and Clipse were making major waves.


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DolphinTeef
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2. "Personally...i traced it back to an EDM/Trap joint from 2010"
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with Low Limit's "Trapperkeeper"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlmFy4-xXQU

(disclaimer...im not saying this is the first incarnation...just my personal discovery)

But it really didn't click until I heard Munchi's EP 'Rotterdam Trap' a few months back:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW9HpEo0Xrs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWk4pwNa5Cw


  

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Delajoo
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3. "nice one"
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this one is kind of its own deal, definately has all the trap elements you look for though. Kudos.

I wanna see early 2000, rolling hats and snares with bounce ain't nothin new, somebody had to have done it.

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4. "cornish trap"
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We Got It 4 Sheep

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YGArUy-qac

  

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Nodima
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5. "Joker & Rustie - Play Doe (2008)"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swnVlDtThfk

has a very purple/wonky vibe with the synths, but the skeleton is pretty relevant

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6. "It's been a long time coming"
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It probably started with those Timbaland beats and then all of those Mannie Fresh, Swizz Beats tracks and everything avoiding sample clearances.

If you follow EDM in the UK, it's a natural progression with UK Garage dabbling in an "urban" sound. Then Grime and Dubstep comes and they're close to a lot of the down south tempos. Back in the US, trance R&B crap takes over the radio, and suddenly things start to merge. People start to travel the world by internet. Now you have Glitch-Hop, UK Funky, and all this other stuff where the people that grew up on 90's 808 gangsta shit are now making music with their own twist on it.

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7. "you cant really talk about the uk i dont think"
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Thu Nov-15-12 04:52 AM by GumDrops

  

          

just because hip hop has been an influence on all the uk dance music like jungle, garage, grime, even dubstep in part...

this whole thing of calling this new dance music trap i think is bullshit. that name is already taken! its also just not big enough to call it something new, like a whole new thing of its own yet, imo.

  

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Delajoo
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8. "its pretty much a thing already man"
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whether you wanna call it trap or not, thats what its being called, being played in major cities, thousands of DJs tagging their tracks as such, its on.

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9. "idk but that's that shit i dont like"
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i cant put my finger on it but their shit sounds broke.

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10. ". . ."
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http://pigeonsandplanes.com/2012/09/definitive-trap-top-10-trap-tunes-so-far/

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11. "Off topic, but I was drunk at a club one night, and they mixed "Bigger t..."
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Hip Hop" in from a Dubstep set, and I said "wait....is this song the origin of Dubstep???"

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12. "Sounds awful"
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Thu Nov-15-12 10:09 PM by Mgmt

  

          

Awful

  

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