Thinking about the topic of political Hip-Hop that is right leaning... are there many examples? Obviously the broad majority of conscious/political Hip-Hop is leftist/against the current system, hence why it's getting made as a message. But there seem like some areas that Hip-Hop can be more conservative, such as on the topics of abortion and gun-control. Qwel, for example, has an anti-abortion/pro-life track '$19.99 A.D', but this could be put down to his religious leanings. Any thoughts/examples?
1. "RE: Right-leaning 'political' Hip-Hop" In response to Reply # 0
There were tons of anti-gay lyrics, especially in the late 80's. Not to mention the over the top materialism and gun worship that have always existed in hip hop.
4. "outside of the pro Black and think of the poor/hood angles" In response to Reply # 0
most of it is right leaning, because most rappers are "rooted" in three things socially and "intellectually": 5% / NOI teachings Christianity and the dog eat dog mentality of Drug and Gang Banging life
even rappers who some champion to be progressive are still tied to the "woman are Queens of the earth, BUT stay yo ass at home and don't be a whore" logic.
to be honest, most rappers would be moderates or at the center of the right-left socio-political axis, but off the top there are very few real left leaning rappers:
Mos Lupe Dead Prez Immortal technique Kweli Jasari X Paris
and that's ok. i don't need rappers for political analysis. I got Vijay Prashad, Robin DG Kelley, Cedric Robinson, Mike Davis, etc for that
29. "^Yeah, this is basically it" In response to Reply # 4
>most of it is right leaning, because most rappers are >"rooted" in three things socially and "intellectually": >5% / NOI teachings >Christianity >and the dog eat dog mentality of Drug and Gang Banging life > >even rappers who some champion to be progressive are still >tied to the "woman are Queens of the earth, BUT stay yo ass at >home and don't be a whore" logic. > >to be honest, most rappers would be moderates or at the center >of the right-left socio-political axis, but off the top there >are very few real left leaning rappers: > >Mos >Lupe >Dead Prez >Immortal technique >Kweli >Jasari X >Paris > >and that's ok. i don't need rappers for political analysis. I >got Vijay Prashad, Robin DG Kelley, Cedric Robinson, Mike >Davis, etc for that
5. "Wu Tang post 9/11, "Mr. Bush sit down, I'm in charge of the war! "" In response to Reply # 0
Geto Boys -
"Your lucky that I ain't the president Cause I'll push the fuckin' button and get it over wit Fuck all that waitin' and procrastinatin' And all that goddamn negotiatin' Flyin' back and fourth overseas And havin' lunch and brunch with the motherfuckin' enemy I'll aim one missle at iraq And blow that little piece of shit off the map "
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Most songs that actually talk about drug dealing, especially at the street level, are all about the protestant work ethic.
Hip Hop is pretty socially conservative, and sometimes economically conservative (in some respects mirroring the black community), but it's also not very Republican or Conservative with a capital C.
26. "you know i actually mis-read the OG post" In response to Reply # 12
he stated political songs. which i read as songs about a specific issue, not an sentiment within an artist discog or personality.
when it comes to the Wu and their "we don't bust on sheets, Earth don't abort the seed, teach my kids how to read and cook while i fuck groupies" sentiment ain't really the point of this post
By the song title we are lured into thinking he's pro-democrat ("Bitch Im Bill Clinton"), but then half way through the verse we find out where his loyalties really lie:
"condoleezza rice on my wrist and it's lovely colin powell chain and you know i'm straight thuggin' west side boy on this track 'cause it's nothin' george bush guns and you know i want that oil colin powell chain on my wrist and it's spoiled"
(intro) salute to the mothafuckin' president. red flame, nigga you know i got my trees lit up i'm retired, nigga; already ran the world y'feel me?
(hook) bill clinton fucking all these women i'm bill clinton fucking all these women i'm bill clinton fucking all these women i'm bill clinton fucking all these women white house white house white house white house white house white house white house white house white house white house white house white house white house white house white house white house
(verse) left wrist clinton right hand clinton monica lewinsky everybody love me flag bill clinton car bill clinton house bill clinton i love women girls love clinton president's women i got money i got hundreds i got swagg in the back so she suck me condoleezza rice on my wrist and it's lovely colin powell chain and you know i'm straight thuggin' west side boy on this track 'cause it's nothin' george bush guns and you know i want that oil colin powell chain on my wrist and it's spoiled everybody vote 'cause they know that i'm loyal young basedgod got guns and the lawyers i'm bill clinton smokin' marijuana in the black house, bitch; you don't want no drama
(hook repeat)
(outro) red flame, nigga you know what it is, lil b i need bill clinton to light up the weed shouts out to hillary clinton you 'bout to win that president shit for real you gon' be president soon, baby. (adlibs repeat until fadeout)
17. "50 Cent and LL Cool J" In response to Reply # 0
Hasn't it been pretty well established that both 50 and LL are both politically conservative? I forget whether the evidence was party registration, voting record, political donations, interview quotes, or whatever... but yea.
28. "The 50 Cent thing isn't really true" In response to Reply # 17
>Hasn't it been pretty well established that both 50 and LL >are both politically conservative? I forget whether the >evidence was party registration, voting record, political >donations, interview quotes, or whatever... but yea.
He just said he admires Bush because "everyone hates him, but he still runs shit."
23. "RE: But does that really count though?" In response to Reply # 20
I always heard it as more of a personal thing — not really having to do with social or religious ideas.
Seemed to me he was just mad at his own irresponsibility and trying to come to terms with the fact that he was physically able to pro-create, but mentally unsure if he was mature to handle it.
33. "yeah, coupla lines in the intro..." In response to Reply # 31
"we gotta start respectin' life more y'all" and "gotta recreate y'all" are surely political statements? the 'we' and 'y'all' seem to pre-establish the rest of the song as something beyond the subjective experience
Shaun Tha Don Member since Nov 19th 2005 18289 posts
Tue Jul-31-12 08:17 PM
40. "It only diminished because rappers have gotten real PC." In response to Reply # 35 Tue Jul-31-12 08:20 PM by Shaun Tha Don
Hip Hop never championed gay rights. Not even the supposedly liberal rappers of the day like A Tribe Called Quest or Melle Mell. Undercover fag, anyone?
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