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"The Evolution of Trap and EDMs Influence [Skrillex does trap smh]"


  

          

So it appears all the EDMs cats are adopting the Trap sound and merging it with elements of Juke, Moombahton, Acid, and others. The result is pretty refreshing compared to what hood niggas are doing.

Examples:

DJ Chuckie & Silvio Ecomo - Moombah (Afrojack Rmx - Munchi's Shoutout To Naffie VIP)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW9HpEo0Xrs

Dillon Francis - Masta Blasta (Trap mix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9vdg2k5yow

Flosstradamus - ☮☮☮ Lana's Theme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX_nbvFHP_A

RL Grime - Trap On Acid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1uQYPVu0JQ


I was convinced Trap would be dead within 2 years but I'm not so sure now. EDM has a way of quickly evolving and keeping things fresh since there's essentially a 'No Rules" consensus unlike Rap.



Is The Lesson fuckin' wit it?



Anyway...here's Skillex's attempt...I'm worried he may have killed it already :/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw-hqFkWNuw

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
I'm interested in checking this out later.
Jul 19th 2012
1
BOOKMARK... because this is going to be entertaining
Jul 19th 2012
2
'Lana's Theme' is nice. LOL
Jul 19th 2012
3
Dubstep is dead.
Jul 19th 2012
4
      that's great news.
Jul 19th 2012
7
      come to tel aviv and tell people that
Jul 20th 2012
65
Lunice & HudMo teamed up to form TNGHT
Jul 19th 2012
5
Yup I just heard it yesterday. Its crazy cuz all this shit is only 2mos ...
Jul 19th 2012
6
I just finally listened to this on Spotify
Jul 24th 2012
89
RE: Lunice & HudMo teamed up to form TNGHT
Sep 12th 2012
167
I'd also like to credit Araabmuzik's Electronic Dream album
Jul 19th 2012
8
I think that's more of an organic melding though
Jul 19th 2012
9
Yea, that's what I am implying
Jul 19th 2012
10
      Actually I can't judge these yet cause I can't hear them
Jul 19th 2012
12
When I saw Araabmuzik's name on something EDM related
Jul 19th 2012
11
It's safe to say dude was par for the course doing their beats at 15-16
Jul 19th 2012
13
Lil' Jon n/m
Jul 19th 2012
14
RE: I'd also like to credit Araabmuzik's Electronic Dream album
Jul 19th 2012
15
also see Mannie Fresh
Jul 19th 2012
16
^^^^
Jul 19th 2012
18
RE: also see Mannie Fresh
Jul 19th 2012
36
o yea
Jul 19th 2012
17
truth, the Baauer joint bangs but yea your right about the elements
Jul 19th 2012
19
WHO THE FUCK IS LEX?
Jul 19th 2012
20
      i get what you and howisya are saying but
Jul 19th 2012
21
           RE: i get what you and howisya are saying but
Jul 19th 2012
22
           It becomes a boring pissing contest basically
Jul 19th 2012
24
                i hear you, but it's also truth
Jul 19th 2012
25
           Let me stop being needlessly mean... you're not wrong
Jul 19th 2012
23
                cool beans bro
Jul 19th 2012
26
                     you could say it spawned the killer mike album and overall
Jul 19th 2012
27
                     cross-post
Jul 25th 2012
91
                     cross-post
Feb 13th 2013
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                     Proof being mean isn't needless ^^^
Jul 19th 2012
28
                          yeah i was with him until he made that statement, lol
Jul 19th 2012
31
                          Fam...i really dont care. No way in hell im crediting ONLY Adult Swim
Jul 19th 2012
33
                               PSA: A movement doesn't start when you get on board
Jul 19th 2012
34
                                    you win!
Jul 19th 2012
35
agreed BUT
Jul 19th 2012
30
      yea like i stated tho...everyone (hip-hop heads) knows this.
Jul 19th 2012
32
      RE: agreed BUT
Jul 19th 2012
37
           ditto, this sounds real organic
Jul 19th 2012
50
           well
Jul 19th 2012
53
first off i agree
Jul 19th 2012
29
RE: I'd also like to credit Araabmuzik's Electronic Dream album
Jul 19th 2012
38
      yea, dude had the holeshot tho
Jul 19th 2012
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           RE: yea, dude had the holeshot tho
Jul 19th 2012
40
                racing term...meaning first one out the gate to take the lead
Jul 19th 2012
42
                     RE: racing term...meaning first one out the gate to take the lead
Jul 19th 2012
44
                          disagree about Araab!!!
Jul 19th 2012
54
                               RE: disagree about Araab!!!
Jul 20th 2012
69
                               To me, Black Milk is more of a classic boom-bap style
Jul 20th 2012
70
                                    RE: To me, Black Milk is more of a classic boom-bap style
Jul 20th 2012
84
                               no, he doesn't
Jul 26th 2012
96
by the way, i love those first three links
Jul 19th 2012
41
check this mix. it's spotty but has a few gems
Jul 19th 2012
43
      man i been bumpin that DB/Floss Lunice remix for over a month
Jul 19th 2012
55
edm?
Jul 19th 2012
45
Electronic Dance Music
Jul 19th 2012
56
      i don't recognize that as a genre of music. *shrug*
Jul 20th 2012
58
           It's more of a umbrella term...
Jul 20th 2012
64
Check this motherfucker "UZ". Trust me.
Jul 19th 2012
46
Truth.
Jul 19th 2012
47
Mad Decent is the king in the department in general
Jul 20th 2012
66
Tony Montana Music
Jul 19th 2012
48
nothing linked here is better than this ^^
Jul 19th 2012
57
that's actually dope.
Jul 20th 2012
61
after review, I fucks with all of that shit posted.
Jul 19th 2012
49
LAZER SWORD been on this tip for a long time now.
Jul 19th 2012
51
it's a great remix style.
Jul 19th 2012
52
RE: The Evolution of Trap and EDMs Influence [Skrillex does trap smh]
Jul 20th 2012
59
I love trap...pretty much all i've been listening to in Rap
Jul 20th 2012
63
why wont trap nor dubstep die?
Jul 20th 2012
60
*crosspost*
Jul 20th 2012
62
      really loved this post,
Jul 20th 2012
67
      good post bro...somehow i missed it.
Jul 20th 2012
68
Y'all heard of Morri$?
Jul 20th 2012
71
Thanks fam...shit is flames
Jul 20th 2012
72
so sick
Jul 20th 2012
74
      "Trap" has stuck already it seems
Jul 20th 2012
75
           im learning about moombahton
Jul 20th 2012
76
                lol
Jul 20th 2012
77
                     are those parties in NY
Jul 20th 2012
78
                          NY and LA
Jul 20th 2012
79
                               fuck arrivin 2 days too late :(
Jul 20th 2012
80
                               damn imma be in vegas
Jul 20th 2012
81
                               RE: NY and LA
Jul 20th 2012
83
Baauer
Jul 20th 2012
73
gone viral
Feb 18th 2013
212
      yeah its all a bit cooky
Feb 18th 2013
213
It'd be great if some of yall
Jul 20th 2012
82
3rd track from OP is fire
Jul 20th 2012
85
whiteboys always late to shit & then wanna call it new
Jul 21st 2012
86
too bad a lot fo these "white niggaz" are Black
Jul 24th 2012
90
      LOL
Jul 25th 2012
92
      provide photo evidence or...
Jul 25th 2012
94
           well
Jul 26th 2012
95
                nicely done
Jul 26th 2012
97
                     i was addressin these crackas who make trap music
Jul 26th 2012
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                          SMH
Jul 26th 2012
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                          this turdburglar catching his namesake in multiple forums
Jul 26th 2012
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                          oh word? im catchin Ls for not dickridin this bullshit?
Jul 26th 2012
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                          lol... does me saying 'turdburglar' hurt your ass that much?
Aug 15th 2012
132
                          my nigga save your breath
Jul 26th 2012
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                               nigga is u his girlfriend? u act like u gotta pay attention to me.
Jul 26th 2012
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                          yo
Jul 26th 2012
105
THUGLI
Jul 24th 2012
87
I can dig it...
Jul 24th 2012
88
Nas - The Don (Tom Wrecks Remix)
Jul 25th 2012
93
As mentioned Purity Ring is doing this Pop/"Witch House"/Trap thing
Jul 26th 2012
103
?
Aug 26th 2012
154
      Sounds like Iamamiwhoami but without the interesting production
Aug 26th 2012
155
           so nothing trap about "ambulances"?
Aug 26th 2012
156
                No. Stiff Kick/Snare pattern, boring hi-hats...sounds really robotic
Aug 26th 2012
157
dope article on Trap for all the haters [SWIPE]
Jul 30th 2012
106
This seems haphazardly researched
Jul 30th 2012
107
yea definitely, just thought it was interesting
Jul 30th 2012
108
ITS SCREWED UP CLICK!!!!!!
Jul 30th 2012
109
that Harlem Shake song is BANGIN!!!
Jul 31st 2012
110
      told yall
Aug 02nd 2012
114
      Bauuer is a fucking monster, that is my summer anthem
Aug 22nd 2012
152
      i like his Roll up remix even better!!!
Sep 12th 2012
168
LA Folk
Jul 31st 2012
111
i think they are spinning this at the Do-Over
Aug 02nd 2012
113
      hmm really
Aug 02nd 2012
115
           Do-Over was turnt ALLLL the way up.
Aug 06th 2012
126
                excellent
Aug 06th 2012
127
                     of course. just get there by 3. You'll be in by 4 lol
Aug 06th 2012
128
New FLOSSTRADAMUS mixtape! they put Thugli on it too!
Aug 02nd 2012
112
Comma - BassCoast Mini Mix
Aug 02nd 2012
116
UM...this DRO MONTANA IS BANANAS!!!
Aug 03rd 2012
117
i'm laughing my ass off at this Flosstradamus Total Recall EP
Aug 03rd 2012
118
yea its trash. It took them awhle to capture the eseence of trap lol
Aug 03rd 2012
122
didn't jeezy x timbo do this 6 years ago:
Aug 03rd 2012
119
Whats the difference in this and what Mike Will Does ???
Aug 03rd 2012
120
Mike Will is trap for rapping
Aug 03rd 2012
121
      RE: Mike Will is trap for rapping
Aug 05th 2012
124
New Mix by Willy Joy for IMF Mag
Aug 05th 2012
123
MORRI$ is the only one i might actually listen to
Aug 06th 2012
125
From T.I. To TNGHT: A Look At Trap Rave (Swipe)
Aug 06th 2012
129
New mix by Atlanta's BLKKMORRIS and Ira G
Aug 09th 2012
130
that new HxV "original choppas" is nasty
Aug 29th 2012
165
trap?
Aug 15th 2012
131
why anyone would waste time creating such a monstrosity is beyond me
Aug 15th 2012
133
      ohh shots fired, haha
Aug 15th 2012
134
      I'm more curious as to what triggered the trap association for YOU
Aug 15th 2012
135
           the trap style drum programming/sound
Aug 15th 2012
136
                Double-O articulates production methods the best...
Aug 15th 2012
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      the reason
Aug 15th 2012
141
           makes sense after your explaination
Aug 15th 2012
142
Heroes x Villains - Original Choppaz & Documentary Details
Aug 15th 2012
138
oh wow...lol @ the haters
Aug 15th 2012
139
these are interesting times
Aug 15th 2012
140
DOCUMENTARY TRAILER
Aug 21st 2012
147
anyone ID the track with the bjork sample about 5 minutes into the doc
Dec 06th 2012
193
NEW MIX: DeMiggs - ITZ A TRAP (+ Party Details)
Aug 16th 2012
143
who are your haters?
Aug 16th 2012
144
lol we have some
Aug 16th 2012
145
PARTY UPDATE (if you're in Toronto this Friday, REACH)
Aug 28th 2012
158
New Flosstradamus "Underground Anthem"
Aug 18th 2012
146
So I went to a free Flosstradamas & Araabmuzik show in NYC
Aug 21st 2012
148
damb...thoughts on the Floss and Araab sets? Crowd reaction?
Aug 21st 2012
149
      It seemed they were there more for Floss more so then Araab
Aug 22nd 2012
150
      Araab really seems like he's on some new shit to me
Aug 22nd 2012
153
      when i saw Floss
Aug 22nd 2012
151
photo meme version of this post:
Aug 28th 2012
159
haha, perfect.
Aug 28th 2012
160
lmao
Aug 28th 2012
161
RE: photo meme version of this post:
Aug 28th 2012
162
also relevant: http://whitepeoplelovetrap.ytmnd.com/
Aug 28th 2012
163
      lol
Aug 28th 2012
164
i had no idea this shit was so huge till this year
Aug 29th 2012
166
(dead horse?) So Many Shrimp weighs in
Oct 23rd 2012
169
im fine with dancey trap music, just not them calling it trap music
Nov 15th 2012
170
I disagree. Give us our props for it
Nov 15th 2012
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      RE: I disagree. Give us our props for it
Nov 15th 2012
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      i dont understand your comment
Nov 16th 2012
173
      It's a bit different from Diplo
Nov 16th 2012
174
      lol who are these people?
Nov 16th 2012
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           I kind of want it to win for 2 reasons
Nov 16th 2012
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           ^^this
Nov 16th 2012
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                It's odd man
Nov 16th 2012
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                     ha@these two replies
Nov 16th 2012
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                     and im not trying to simply declare its death
Nov 16th 2012
181
                          relative to where dubstep was last year
Nov 16th 2012
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           Agreed...
Nov 16th 2012
178
      you are not showing a very deep understanding of this
Nov 20th 2012
189
           those pioneers have been given respect worldwide for decades
Dec 19th 2012
198
      lets be honest tho...black ppl abandoned techno of their own volition
Nov 20th 2012
188
The Devolution...
Nov 16th 2012
182
say it ain't so...
Nov 16th 2012
184
Comedy.
Nov 17th 2012
185
asap yams on this:
Nov 17th 2012
186
i don't really get his point
Nov 17th 2012
187
cause the perception is yt boys imitatiing lex luger/zae etc.
Feb 18th 2013
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      but you, more than most, should know its not true
Feb 18th 2013
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           im not riding with it cause actually fux with alotta trap
Jun 10th 2013
217
again, HxV helped MAKE the album he's wistfully describing
Nov 20th 2012
190
this is what happens when the rest of the world tries to do ATL shit
Nov 20th 2012
191
THUGLI + Itzsoweezee Trip to LA Recap Video <LINK>
Dec 06th 2012
192
EDM is not my choice of music to listen to
Dec 06th 2012
194
this dont even "oontz" tho...how bout this?
Dec 06th 2012
195
      to me, it's the same difference. not a fan of electronic music.
Dec 14th 2012
197
RE: The Evolution of Trap and EDMs Influence [Skrillex does trap smh]
Dec 14th 2012
196
just wanted to say dont forget DIPSET TRANCE PARTY
Dec 21st 2012
199
RE: The Evolution of Trap and EDMs Influence [Skrillex does trap smh]
Dec 21st 2012
200
congratulations
Dec 21st 2012
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      RE: congratulations
Dec 21st 2012
202
that's enough lipp from you, boy
Jan 19th 2013
203
when did he write this, 1994?
Jan 28th 2013
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      Damn i hate yall motherfuckers
Jan 28th 2013
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           dont shoot the messenger
Jan 28th 2013
206
none of it is black music, shit is soulless
Jan 28th 2013
207
Just Blaze is blacker than you n/m
Jan 28th 2013
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lol its been well established u have no idea what you're talking abt
Jan 29th 2013
209
What a horrible thing to say
Jan 29th 2013
210
Hudson Mohawke has first production credits on half of Yeezus
Jun 10th 2013
216

T Reynolds
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1. "I'm interested in checking this out later."
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white electronic music has been infatuated with hood Black music for a long time (see: Ghettotech, all that Diplo shit, all that Baltimore shit)

sometimes it does yield some cool results

  

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Dr Claw
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2. "BOOKMARK... because this is going to be entertaining"
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Thu Jul-19-12 11:28 AM by Dr Claw

  

          

hilarious, even

  

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3. "'Lana's Theme' is nice. LOL"
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this shit would be so refreshing if it dropped in the middle of a dub-step nightmare.

fuck you.

  

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DolphinTeef
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Thu Jul-19-12 11:38 AM

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4. "Dubstep is dead. "
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Thu Jul-19-12 11:40 AM by DolphinTeef

  

          

Pretty much hated at this point and only latecomers who started at it's popularity peak are still pushing that shit. The UK folks been off that and they started it.

Obviously Skillex is gunna do his thing still.

It's elements however (ie the Basslines) will be sprinkled here and there but pure dubstep is done.

  

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7. "that's great news."
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Thu Jul-19-12 11:51 AM by SoWhat

  

          

my god. the rest of those tracks are all pretty awful, imo.

sheesh.

fuck you.

  

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65. "come to tel aviv and tell people that"
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hopefully by next year I dont have to ever get invited to another Dubstep night ughhh

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5. "Lunice & HudMo teamed up to form TNGHT"
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a group they've said is specifically aimed at fitting into the mainstream trap scene, if they so choose

I had no idea HudMo was involved with "Mercy" before, either

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6. "Yup I just heard it yesterday. Its crazy cuz all this shit is only 2mos ..."
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It's really only the beginning.

>I had no idea HudMo was involved with "Mercy" before, either

yea I curious which part tho...because I have an idea but I dont wanna shit on dudes name like that because the result (that Kanye break) was terrible IMO.

  

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89. "I just finally listened to this on Spotify"
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I was not expecting it to be so good.

  

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167. "RE: Lunice & HudMo teamed up to form TNGHT"
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your avi got jacked. thanks.

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DolphinTeef
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8. "I'd also like to credit Araabmuzik's Electronic Dream album"
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it played it's part in this...


that newness with Danny Brown is heat.
http://www.okayplayer.com/news/danny-brown-molly-ringwald-araabmuzik-stream.html

  

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9. "I think that's more of an organic melding though"
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Lot of cats nyc and jersey poppin skittles and listening to party music

you go out to a club a lot of times it's gonna push that

the ladies love the vocals and beat and dudes get into it by osmosis

Araabmuzik to me just brought the street to the club or the club to the street in a pretty natural way (i.e. not forced or researched)

  

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10. "Yea, that's what I am implying "
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Thu Jul-19-12 12:48 PM by DolphinTeef

  

          

Are you saying these new productions are forced or a result of corny case studies?

I'm thinking all these guys have been listening to Gucci, Waka, 2 chainz,etc throughout the rise of the Trap sound and as Dubstep (and in some part Moombahton) has fallen out of favor...they quickly assimilated Trap. This is actually one of the reasons why Im loving EDM. For better or worse...they dont give a shit.

meanwhile hip-hop heads are arguing over technicalities which is stifling/boring at best.

  

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12. "Actually I can't judge these yet cause I can't hear them"
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I dig EDM of all forms too. It's a bigger scope of sound and experimentation than hip-hop, which I also dig. But there is a certain aspect of appropriation of 'ghetto music' into the EDM that happens again and again and the new trend eventually eats itself

  

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11. "When I saw Araabmuzik's name on something EDM related"
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I wondered, how did he get in the scene? I remember him playing live drum machines and doing Dipset beats.

  

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13. "It's safe to say dude was par for the course doing their beats at 15-16"
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dude got older, rap got boring and he's too talented to stay doing their beats to be honest.

His success is a testament to the benefits of experimentation when it works. Now hes doing commericals with Cam Newton getting that steady white dollar. All these EDM cats heard his album from the BNM tag by P4K and a lightbulb went off.

  

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14. "Lil' Jon n/m"
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15. "RE: I'd also like to credit Araabmuzik's Electronic Dream album"
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It's Lil John & Timbo for sure...

What hudmo and lunice are doing is def timbo inspired by pulling the wierd sound shit he used to do.. babies crying etc.. and even some snares...

but then Lil John started something that I'd have to argue Lex Luger (& fruity loops) perfected. The idea of the rapid fire machine drum snares and hi hats is really what these cats love... 808's as well....

This Baauer shit is dope -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk1_DbbzSdY

Trap drums are the new indie "thing" though see Purity Ring -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjC-hznTwMA&feature=relmfu

I would say Salem fits somewhere in here too... I just don't know where.. lol

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16. "also see Mannie Fresh"
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18. "^^^^"
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36. "RE: also see Mannie Fresh"
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For some yea... but I dunno how much a dutch kid from Den Haag knows about Manny..


Then again youtube is everywhere.... I'd say that mannie has more influence in the Bounce, Moombah influx cuz a ton of his big productions were 98-105bpm

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17. "o yea"
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>It's Lil John & Timbo for sure...
>
>What hudmo and lunice are doing is def timbo inspired by
>pulling the wierd sound shit he used to do.. babies crying
>etc.. and even some snares...

Krush was the first dude I heard use baby samples to get all technical and shit but yeah

>I would say Salem fits somewhere in here too... I just don't
>know where.. lol

first time I heard weird goth synth spooky vocal shit over those type of drums, personally

Witch House

  

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19. "truth, the Baauer joint bangs but yea your right about the elements"
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Hi-hats and the replacement of standard basslines with pitched 808s.

Folks can credit the producers prior to Lex n them but they were largely forgotten by new cats and so I think its more appropriate to credit Lex/Southside/Mike Will's take on their influences.

If it wasnt for the BMF/Hard in the Paint tracks i dont think anyone would care about the old southern legends. EDM would have gone a more current route. This is not to dis the old heads just simply my observation as a follower of both EDM and Hip-hop.

  

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20. "WHO THE FUCK IS LEX?"
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j/k
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21. "i get what you and howisya are saying but"
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we can go back to the beginning of time to connect the dots on who did it first or who influenced who. That's really not the point.

Trap Drums are the new indie thing as Double-0 stated. Its interesting to see "white music"s inevitable appropriation of "black music". To be fair...they supported the rappers doing trap initially (progress lol) and this is simply then next movement. The very definition of Art.

  

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22. "RE: i get what you and howisya are saying but"
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>we can go back to the beginning of time to connect the dots
>on who did it first or who influenced who. That's really not
>the point.

then what is? the false reality where only the latest, most popular examples can be counted as influential?

it is cool to hear the hybrids anyway, we agree on that much

  

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24. "It becomes a boring pissing contest basically"
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who can point out the oldest most obscure influence. why do this?

it's obvious to US (hip-hop heads) who influenced Lex n friends...we've been over this NUMEROUS times in previous threads.

What is more interesting to ME at least is putting Lessonheads on to new developments spawned from recent music. The bleeding edge of creativity so to speak. I'd rather folks post shit i've missed or talk about what they don't like or would like to see from this new development.

  

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25. "i hear you, but it's also truth"
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>who can point out the oldest most obscure influence. why do
>this?

these aren't obscure, and *these* ones aren't that old. now if you made the leap to the electro post i bumped, then yeah.


>What is more interesting to ME at least is putting Lessonheads
>on to new developments spawned from recent music.

i commend you for it, and usually i let you cook, i just wanted to say mannie fresh with the drum rolls!

  

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23. "Let me stop being needlessly mean... you're not wrong"
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I mean ATLRMX was two years ago. Adult Swim invented this shit.
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26. "cool beans bro"
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you pointed out an obscure record with mostly forgettable songs that was a compilation and failed to really spawn any notable movements.


kudos.

  

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27. "you could say it spawned the killer mike album and overall"
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relationship w/ el-p (appearance on his album and current tour) since the exec producer of that project put them together... now you can say you've heard not just jeezy's prerecorded vocals but new killer mike, t.i., and bun b raps over el-p... but anyway

  

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91. "cross-post"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2723870&mesg_id=2723870&page=#2723925

  

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211. "cross-post"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2777935&mesg_id=2777935&page= ATL ho

  

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28. "Proof being mean isn't needless ^^^"
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>you pointed out an obscure record with mostly forgettable
>songs that was a compilation and failed to really spawn any
>notable movements.

*cough checks the links in your og post cough*

DJ Chuckie & Silvio Ecomo - Moombah (Afrojack Rmx - Munchi's Shoutout To Naffie VIP)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW9HpEo0Xrs

Dillon Francis - Masta Blasta (Trap mix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9vdg2k5yow

Flosstradamus - ☮☮☮ Lana's Theme
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RL Grime - Trap On Acid
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31. "yeah i was with him until he made that statement, lol"
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33. "Fam...i really dont care. No way in hell im crediting ONLY Adult Swim"
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again...im not here to argue about forfathers or origins. Mainly movements going forward and the Lesson's opinion on RECENT developments.

  

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34. "PSA: A movement doesn't start when you get on board"
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35. "you win!"
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30. "agreed BUT"
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what yall missing is that while Mannie, Timbo and Lil' John are the ones being drawn from, Electronic Dream and Luger's beats are what consolidated the sound and made it trendy/critical darling.

also i'm a bit iffy on Lil' John. anyone got the cahonees to argue why Lil' John is part of the lineage

  

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32. "yea like i stated tho...everyone (hip-hop heads) knows this."
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I'm interest on your opinion on Lil Jon.

  

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37. "RE: agreed BUT"
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Lil John popularized the idea of Prog House and straight old school techno synths on rap records... in the 2000's (These kids doing this stuff now are young). Timbo did it as well.... but that's an entire generation+ before.

Sure 808s and Yamaha Dx7 sounds go back to the 80s in terms of relationship but these kids werent there nor was "trap"

Ppl like Gucci and Waka (expecially waka) Have created a new version of Punk Energy T/Rap. The "narrative" doesn't matter to these kids it's about energy. So it plays well in the clubs right after a High Energy house/electro set. and once dubstep came into play and dubstep remixes of Waka songs started the merging the 2 was inevitable...

I kinda like these movements though...

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50. "ditto, this sounds real organic"
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>Ppl like Gucci and Waka (expecially waka) Have created a new
>version of Punk Energy T/Rap. The "narrative" doesn't matter
>to these kids it's about energy. So it plays well in the
>clubs right after a High Energy house/electro set. and once
>dubstep came into play and dubstep remixes of Waka songs
>started the merging the 2 was inevitable...
>
>I kinda like these movements though...

rather than straight jacking. it's kind of like "fusion" jazz where you still heard the "jazz" in the music. part of the reason why I was kinda "eh" on the Skrillex is that it seems like he was forcing the "trap" issue on that joint

  

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53. "well"
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>Lil John popularized the idea of Prog House and straight old
>school techno synths on rap records... in the 2000's (These
>kids doing this stuff now are young). Timbo did it as
>well.... but that's an entire generation+ before.

this makes a lot of sense. i was letting the persona/image of Lil' John and distaste for his music cloud the "genealogy of the sound".

>Sure 808s and Yamaha Dx7 sounds go back to the 80s in terms of
>relationship but these kids werent there nor was "trap"

honestly it doesn't matter if they were there. the people making the music def grew up on (Timbo, Lil John, and Mannie)and did the knowledge on that sound. the listeners are a different story.

>I kinda like these movements though...

i do as well. i didn't care for dubstep much, because it lacked melody to me. it just came off as grating noises and bass. but these joints not only have the prog sound, and big bass, but a melodic element, even if its stark, to it

  

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29. "first off i agree"
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if i felt like it, i'd get into why he's so damn awesome and why what he's doing is still more traditionalist hip hop than EDM, even though it is EDM

  

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38. "RE: I'd also like to credit Araabmuzik's Electronic Dream album"
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I think that what araab was doing was the same thing. Not necessarily earlier just in the thick of it.

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39. "yea, dude had the holeshot tho"
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40. "RE: yea, dude had the holeshot tho"
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holeshot?

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42. "racing term...meaning first one out the gate to take the lead"
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basically

  

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44. "RE: racing term...meaning first one out the gate to take the lead"
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I actually think Lunice is...

Araab to me came at the end of the Skrillex, Bassnectar... Glitch Mob era... His songs were more "Bro" step and Dipset leaning w/ mid rangy drums and sounds rather than the subs & dubbiness that is coming back in this nu trap shit..

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54. "disagree about Araab!!!"
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there is nothing Bro-step about his sound. not only is it more melodic and emotive than anything those douche-bags ever created, but it's deeply hip hop rooted. Araab has a Dilla like ear/feel for drums in terms of programming and density, but puts them to a pulse that mirrors Swizz and Mannie for the energy/BPM. also Araab chops and loops shits with the best of them, but it's going over people's heads because it's not the funk, soul, R&B and rock we were use to hearing our favorite producers sample. Araab decided to mine 90s house and trance records, because honestly the old crates had/are played (to an extent: Oddisee, Oh No, Alchemist and TDE's in house production team dead that weak argument)

he, drums of death, hudmo, lunice, flossstradamus, def got there ears / techniques / sound going in the right direction

  

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69. "RE: disagree about Araab!!!"
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Yea...

He doesnt imo..

I like him but I think his drums are secondary. They are definitely more hip hop but I don't really "love" them.

But if you like them dope. I agree he has more compressed drums... just not ones I love. For that Black Milk>>

to me

*ALSO I get that he's a drummer so he kinda programs like one but I prefer Bink for stuff like that. He reminds me a bit of Apple Juice kid when it comes to MPC drum programming

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70. "To me, Black Milk is more of a classic boom-bap style"
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>But if you like them dope. I agree he has more compressed
>drums... just not ones I love. For that Black Milk>>
>
>to me


never mind the engineering aspect of their their sound. Araab seems cut from the Timbo cloth. To each their own.

  

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84. "RE: To me, Black Milk is more of a classic boom-bap style"
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Yea I meant engineering and actual drum sounds... not grooves.... Araab is heatmakerz 2.0 to me prior to him discovering EDM...

but don't get me wrong I like his stuff on Electronic Dream.... just sonically I don't associate with the Post Dub Trap genre.. not directly

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96. "no, he doesn't"
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>Araab has a Dilla like ear/feel for drums in terms of programming and density

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41. "by the way, i love those first three links"
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especially the Flosstradamus one

anymore recommendations

  

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43. "check this mix. it's spotty but has a few gems"
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http://www.egothieves.com/mixes/we-are-ego-thieves-1/#

alot of what's out is on that mix tho

This whole post was spawned off that first one lol. Completely caught me by surprise as a Munchi fan.

also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqgiSoqE4Bg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqs3NrmpWF4

  

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55. "man i been bumpin that DB/Floss Lunice remix for over a month"
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"right there starring at her pussy"... love that shit

some one needs to rap to that second joint with a quickness

  

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45. "edm?"
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56. "Electronic Dance Music"
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58. "i don't recognize that as a genre of music. *shrug*"
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64. "It's more of a umbrella term..."
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which is why i broke it into subgenres in the main post.

  

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46. "Check this motherfucker "UZ". Trust me."
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He has a little EP called Trap Shit. All fire.

Trap Shit V7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HIeLEbZKE8

Trap Shit V9
http://youtu.be/WMLU7fsU0bQ

Yeah.

  

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47. "Truth."
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66. "Mad Decent is the king in the department in general"
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n/m

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48. "Tony Montana Music"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MUP9-8oPgc

  

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57. "nothing linked here is better than this ^^"
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opinion as fact indeed.

  

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61. "that's actually dope."
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49. "after review, I fucks with all of that shit posted."
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esp. Dillon Francis and Flosstradamus.

That Skrillex shit though... I don't think the drums sound right on that shit. still sounds kind of like a PS1 game gone wrong, just kind of with "rap" shit on it. there's too much bullshit with the piano voice going on in the middle. It corrects itself some time later.

  

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51. "LAZER SWORD been on this tip for a long time now. "
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sweatpants money and then some

  

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52. "it's a great remix style."
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Flosstradamus: "Total Recall"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn7JzFCAAkE

Flosstradamus: "Original Don"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnsgDTGIQN4

RL Grime and Salva: "Mercy"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yk0YBYc2Ww

^ last one is THE trap song of the summer

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59. "RE: The Evolution of Trap and EDMs Influence [Skrillex does trap smh]"
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wtf! seriously dude... I was clicking links expecting some phenomenal stuff... This is... not terrible or anything but it sure isn't GREAT! Not even if you were high. So what exactly are you on?

#thefutureofradio http://bit.ly/BRIndieGoGo
http://bondfireradio.com

audio journaling: unkempt > http://bit.ly/ajunkempt < be courageous

  

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63. "I love trap...pretty much all i've been listening to in Rap"
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I love electronic music...it's exciting to me.

The marriage of the two is genius IMO. So I made this post to spread the enjoyment because I know im not the only one out there.

no drugs were involved.

  

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60. "why wont trap nor dubstep die?"
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now its being combined. fk me

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Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B

  

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62. "*crosspost*"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2703436&mesg_id=2703436&listing_type=search


~~~~~~~~~
"This is the streets, and I am the trap." © Jay Bilas

http://www.last.fm/user/NodimaChee
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/Nodima/run_that_shit__nodimas_hip_hop_handbook

  

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67. "really loved this post, "
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no dickride but I check for every Nodima post.

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68. "good post bro...somehow i missed it."
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71. "Y'all heard of Morri$? "
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His soundcloud has some heat in this vein. Got hip to him through the Mad Decent blog, which is always at the front of these EDM/ hood music collisions.

http://soundcloud.com/phillybaby/rashidajones

http://soundcloud.com/phillybaby/faded-off

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72. "Thanks fam...shit is flames"
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74. "so sick"
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this genre just needs a name we so its easier to find.

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75. ""Trap" has stuck already it seems"
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Most followers of electronic music go by artist names anyway. Genres change damn near monthly.

  

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76. "im learning about moombahton"
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seems to be starkly close to the tempo/feeling without the exact same instruments.

Trapaton? Lol

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77. "lol"
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truthfully Moombahton is kinda annoying to me but I love the latin-style drum breaks. But...I went to a Mad Decent block party and that shit was LIVE AS FUCK. Prolly gunna go again this year, this time drunker.

moral of the story. Listen to Moombahton shitfaced.

  

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78. "are those parties in NY"
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i'm leaving Israel for there in a couple weeks and gonna be there for a while, thats that shit I gon like.

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79. "NY and LA"
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I went to the LA one tho. I heard NY is crazier so have fun...they are usually in August.

actually here's the link...they are doing more cities now:

http://maddecent.com/blog/mad-decent-block-party-2012-presented-by-puma%C2%AE

  

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80. "fuck arrivin 2 days too late :("
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i swear every single one of these DJ cats I'm feeling is associated or signed to Mad Decent. Diplo monpolizin the talent

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81. "damn imma be in vegas"
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for my man's bachelor party when it hits LA

  

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83. "RE: NY and LA"
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I RSVP every year and something always comes up. Fingers crossed for this year, lol.

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73. "Baauer"
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My favorite new act in this lane

http://soundcloud.com/baauer

http://soundcloud.com/maddecent/baauer-harlem-shake
^Harlem Shake is a bonafied banger, unreal

http://soundcloud.com/baauer/huzzah-baauer-remix
^this is fucking funky

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212. "gone viral"
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a 2013 meme... tripped me out to hear a story on it on a hoity-toity radio news station


>http://soundcloud.com/maddecent/baauer-harlem-shake
>^Harlem Shake is a bonafied banger, unreal

  

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213. "yeah its all a bit cooky"
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82. "It'd be great if some of yall"
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came and shared with us in MuMu. Post is on the front page now, and there's space. http://www.mumuplayer.com/the_lesson

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85. "3rd track from OP is fire"
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____________________________________________________________________

San Diego State's holy trinity of sports:
Kawhi Leonard
Marshall Faulk
Tony Gwynn (RIP)

#Aztec4Life

  

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86. "whiteboys always late to shit & then wanna call it new"
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are yall fo'real?
the beats are nice but nothing original
niggas been flippin shit like this
with all the crazy electro shit too
plus what the fuck a whiteboy in england know about the trap?
that shits faker than rick ross

  

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90. "too bad a lot fo these "white niggaz" are Black"
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SMDH

  

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92. "LOL"
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94. "provide photo evidence or..."
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"we don't believe you, you need more people"

  

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95. "well"
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lunice
http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/allencitomyspace/1905.jpg

darq-e-freaker
http://matchmusik.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/darq-e-freaker.jpg

flosstradamus (one half shole look half-black or african descent latino to me)
http://meanredproductions.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/flosstradamus4.jpeg

araabmuzik (you know he's half dominican / half guatemalon; which means, you know he's got african blood)
http://beatmakingvideos.com/sites/default/files/producer_foto/araabMUZIK.jpg

afrojack
http://dadetodane.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/dsc000-097.jpg

i mean obviously we can get into the whole (b)lack not (B)lack thing, or Euro Black vs. American Black, or the diaspora Black/African descent thing, but that's not what this is right

we're just here to dispel the "myth" that it's a bunch of white boys appropriating Black drug dealer terminology and Black underground electronic music styling right? right?

  

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97. "nicely done"
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I had the pleasure of meeting Flosstradamus after their Toronto show last Saturday.. they are some chill dudes.. Thugli and them are hopefully gonna be working on some things.. not to mention it was one of the illest jams I went to all summer.

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98. "i was addressin these crackas who make trap music"
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my statement stills stands fuckboy
so u can post these beige niggas pics & family tree all u want
never said none of these dudes werent black
whateva tho
enjoy your euro-trap bullshit

  

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99. "SMH"
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100. "this turdburglar catching his namesake in multiple forums"
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101. "oh word? im catchin Ls for not dickridin this bullshit?"
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haha fine by me
and nigga dont your troll ass live in Cleveland?
nigga Cleveland dont get to give Ls, yawl take'um.
turdburglar?
yeah u sound like a nigga who loves anything a cracka says & do.



  

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132. "lol... does me saying 'turdburglar' hurt your ass that much?"
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102. "my nigga save your breath"
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104. "nigga is u his girlfriend? u act like u gotta pay attention to me."
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ur monkey ass can keep it moving
"fuckboy out my face"

  

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105. "yo"
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http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/1378-you-mad-bro-prince.jpg

  

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87. "THUGLI"
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THUGLI is the new group formed by my homies Tom Wrecks (Itzsoweezee) and Drastik (Eh! Team, Stylusts) outta Toronto

i'm telling you right now, DON'T SLEEP on "The Sounds"... damn

Thugli - The Sounds
http://soundcloud.com/thugli/the-sounds

Thugli - We Bout It
http://soundcloud.com/thugli/we-bout-it

Thugli - Weyvee
http://soundcloud.com/thugli/weyvee

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88. "I can dig it..."
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peace

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Don't Let Hollywood fool you.

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93. "Nas - The Don (Tom Wrecks Remix)"
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http://soundcloud.com/tomwrecks/nas-the-don-tom-wrecks-remix

and video:

https://vimeo.com/42418433

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103. "As mentioned Purity Ring is doing this Pop/"Witch House"/Trap thing"
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(Album recently dropped...in case yall missed out)

'Lofticries'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdPml5QhMIA

'Ungirthed'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO9eBD906M8

  

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154. "?"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjf7JkQqwfE

  

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155. "Sounds like Iamamiwhoami but without the interesting production"
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Purity Ring gives me a Joanna Newsom w/ a Trap backdrop vibe...



I tried getting into Ladytron awhile back but it was too sterile for me.

  

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156. "so nothing trap about "ambulances"?"
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hi hats? dance buildup?

  

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157. "No. Stiff Kick/Snare pattern, boring hi-hats...sounds really robotic"
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It does sound cinematic tho

  

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106. "dope article on Trap for all the haters [SWIPE]"
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obviously it's not 100% complete or anything but still makes for a good read.



It's a Trap! An 11-Part History of Trap Music, From DJ Screw to Gucci Mane to Flosstradamus

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/crossfade/2012/07/trap_music_11-part_history_dj_screw_gucci_mane_flosstradamus.php?page=1

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Trap music.

It's superhuge right now with the cool kids and it's overrunning Soundcloud. Yet despite its growing popularity, a lot of people have one basic question ... What the fuck is trap?

Because of recent EDM trends, many people would tell you it's the "new dubstep" or the "new moombahton." But actually, trap music's been filtering through the hip-hop scene for years, and its trademark hi-hats and thin snares are nothing "new."

So cutting through some of the hype and clearing up confusion, we he here at Crossfade present this brief history of trap music. Put down the purple drank and learn something.


1980
The Roland TR-808 is released. Its deep bass bumps matched with tinny snares and hi-hats will become central to the trap sound.

Roland TR-808 Rhythm Composer Basic Demo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLAvmBSmM8Q


1990s
Houston, Texas hip-hop producer DJ Screw begins recording and selling slowed-down mix cassettes, inventing the famous chopped-and-screwed style. The music is slow because the listener is supposed to be "sippin' sizzurp" (AKA codeine cough syrup), often mixed with soda to become "purple drank." His friends begin rapping over the mixes, eventually coming together as the Screwed Up Crew, swarming the Southern hip-hop scene of the late '90s and early 2000s. Notable Screwed Up Crew members include Lil Keke, Big Hawk, and Fat Pap.

Lil Keke - Southside:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wuSQpiWtdU

2000
DJ Screw dies of a codeine overdose just as the chopped and screwed style begins to catch fire. Three 6 Mafia has a hit called "Sippin' On Some Syrup."

Three-6-Mafia - Sippin On Some Syrup
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOWKGXpl9E0

Early 2000s
Due in part to the massive success of Outkast, Southern hip-hop gets more attention from mainstream American audience. The bounce-influenced New Orleans sound takes off with hits from the Cash Money Records crew, along with Houston's chopped-and-screwed stuff and Tennessee's Crunk music.

Juvenile Feat. Mannie Fresh & Lil' Wayne - Back That Azz Up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9CabmOu-Zk

2003
Southern rapper T.I. emerges as a major player with his second album Trap Muzik, featuring hits like "Rubber Band Man" and "24s." It's music for people at the "trap house," i.e. a drug house. Like chopped-and-screwed, this is music for people on drugs, selling drugs, driving slow, and riding strapped.

T.I. - Be Easy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBOXxR5PHP8

2007
1017 Brick Squad Records, led by Gucci Mane, begins recording and releasing "Trap-A-Holics" mixtapes, featuring artists such as Waka Flocka Flame.

Gucci Mane - Trapaholics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjO1MgPv_hY

2009
Flocka releases his first album, Flockaveli. His ignorant, party-life lyrical style matched with heavy yet simple productions resonates with listeners both thug and suburban. Tracks such as "Hard in the Paint," produced by Lex Luger, propel the rapper to fame. Luger's dark trademark sound becomes pivotal in the Southern hip-hop and trap music scenes.

Waka Flocka Flame - Hard In The Paint
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkkC9cK8Hz0

2010
A chopped-and-screwed app appears in the iTunes store.

App Screenshot
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/crossfade/itunesapp.jpg

2011
Flocka and Luger continue to gain fame. Luger begins producing for bigger names, such as Rick Ross, Kanye West, and Jay-Z. The tinny, stuttering hi-hat begins to take over hip-hop radiowaves. Electro-house DJs mix the Southern-style productions into their dance-floor sets, and many producers create dubstep remixes of the biggest hits.

Ace Hood - Hustle Hard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_dh16HQkqQ

2012
Flosstradamus, an electro-house duo from Chicago, have a huge hit with their remix of Major Lazer's new single "Original Don." They slow it down, chop it up, and throw in some tinny hi-hats. They infuse the house beat with the distinguishing features of hip-hop's trap and chopped-and-screwed genres.

The pair releases the Total Recall EP and the sound catches fire with fans already so hung up on the heavy bass of dubstep and the lazy rhythms of moombahton. Next, Floss record a two-hour set for Diplo's BBC Radio 1 show Diplo and Friends, highlighting trap music from its hip-hop origins to the leaders of the trap-house movement, cementing its place in popular EDM.

Flosstradamus - Diplo & Friends BBC Mix
http://soundcloud.com/flosstradamus/flosstradamus-diplo-friends

Today
The electro-house scene is on fire with trap remixes and original productions. Producers like DJ Sliink, Baauer, and Krueger make trap their calling card. White kids everywhere are running to Soundcloud, scouring the net for more "trap," and screaming in the club like their name is Admiral Ackbar. Many are saying trap is the "new dubstep" or the "new moombahton," in reference to its extreme level of hype.

How will trap's new romance with house music evolve? Will dance floors get over the fad in six months? Or is trap here to stay? Will we hear trap-house on 99 Jamz? Will codeine cough syrup be made available over the counter? Will Flocka do a track with Floss?

We can dream. Till then, drop it low when you're in the trap and stay sippin'.

Baauer - Harlem Shake
http://soundcloud.com/maddecent/baauer-harlem-shake

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107. "This seems haphazardly researched "
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but well intended for sure.


that Flosstradamus Diplo and friends mix they posted got some gems

  

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108. "yea definitely, just thought it was interesting"
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that Trap is getting this kind of attention these days.. the article is not thorough at all

side note, i can't get enough of this Heroes x Villains mix:

http://soundcloud.com/heroesxvillains/vavlt-boyz-present-luxury-trap

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109. "ITS SCREWED UP CLICK!!!!!!"
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*stops reading article out of nerddom*


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"This is the streets, and I am the trap." © Jay Bilas

http://www.last.fm/user/NodimaChee
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/Nodima/run_that_shit__nodimas_hip_hop_handbook

  

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110. "that Harlem Shake song is BANGIN!!!"
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114. "told yall"
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Baauer is the truth with this shit. UZ is fucking cool too.

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152. "Bauuer is a fucking monster, that is my summer anthem"
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168. "i like his Roll up remix even better!!!"
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http://soundcloud.com/foolsgoldrecs/rollup-baauer-remix

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111. "LA Folk"
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what club is playing this shit

  

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113. "i think they are spinning this at the Do-Over"
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i will be there this weekend to confirm.

  

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115. "hmm really"
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come back N confirm, lol

  

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126. "Do-Over was turnt ALLLL the way up. "
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and they definitely bang that trap shit.

  

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127. "excellent"
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still packed as shit i'm assuming

  

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128. "of course. just get there by 3. You'll be in by 4 lol"
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112. "New FLOSSTRADAMUS mixtape! they put Thugli on it too!"
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http://itzsoweezee.com/flosstradamus-banned/

this shit GOES

tracklist:

TOM RICHMAN – DRO MONTANA
THUGLI – WEYVEE
DEEBS – ROLLIN (DJ HOODCORE & DJ SIIKEE REMIX)
DJ SPINZ – HOODRICH ANTHEM FEAT. 2CHAINZ, FUTURE, WAKA FLOCKA, YO GOTTI, AND GUCCI MANE
FLOSSTRADAMUS & DJ SLIINK – TEST ME (UZ REMIX)
BRANCHEZ – TREAT YOU RIGHT
CHROMATIC & GLADIATOR – GAMECUBE NINTENDO
MADRID – IMA WORK
MEEK MILL – FACE DOWN FEAT. TREY SONGZ, SAM SNEAK, & WALE
UZ – ŤR∆̉ Sῌῗ† 13
KANYE WEST – MERCY (SALVA & RL GRIME REMIX)
MAJOR LAZER – ORIGINAL DON (POP THAT)
DIPLO – EXPRESS YOURSELF (GENT & JAWNS REMIX)
FLOSSTRADAMUS – UNDERGR☢UND ANTHEM
MIA – BAD GIRLS (SWITCH REMIX) FEAT. MISSY ELLIOTT & RYE RYE
FLOSSTRADAMUS – ROLLUP (BAAUER REMIX)

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116. "Comma - BassCoast Mini Mix"
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also very ill


http://itzsoweezee.com/comma-basscoast-mini-mix/


tracklist:

01. Krayzie Bone – Mo’ Murda
02. LOL Boys – Changes (Shlohmo Remix)
03. Wiz Khalifa feat. Juicy J – T.A.P. (prod. SpaceGhostPurrp)
04. Keyboard Kid – T.A.S.H.A. (Trappin And Stuntin Hard Always)
05. Ab-Soul feat. Danny Brown – Terrorist Threats
06. Myrryrs – Pulse Wave
07. Clams Casino – Leaf (instrumental)
08. Evian Christ – Fuck It None Of Y’all Don’t Rap
09. Kavsrave – No More (Slow Jams)
10. DJ Sliink – Thuggish Ruggish (Remix)
11. Comma – Twegionaire
12. Taz Buckfaster – Stamma
13. DJ Rashad & DJ Spinn – DJ Rashad & DJ Spinn Meet Tshetsha Boys
14. Keyboard Kid – Vaporizer
15. EPROM – Needle Thrasher
16. Illum Sphere – Agent White (kidkanevil Agent Black Remix)
17. DJ Earl – Dat Battle Sound
18. Danny Scrilla feat. Om Unit – Hunch

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117. "UM...this DRO MONTANA IS BANANAS!!!"
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http://soundcloud.com/tomrichman/dro-montana

  

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118. "i'm laughing my ass off at this Flosstradamus Total Recall EP"
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i'm sure this goes in the eurotrash club with a couple x pills

  

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122. "yea its trash. It took them awhle to capture the eseence of trap lol"
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I've actually been disappointed in alot of what's been dropping for this sound lately. Notice that EP was from Feb. Probably gunna take others a similar amount of time to "get it" and drop the increasingly corny EDM elements until they find something that works as a hybrid.

  

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119. "didn't jeezy x timbo do this 6 years ago:"
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3am:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oCWduKu9nk&feature=fvwrel

  

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120. "Whats the difference in this and what Mike Will Does ???"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmRFVtIX-_E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPfjsro5FZ8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3HHPftehfY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIrhcTkHX_A

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121. "Mike Will is trap for rapping"
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he's technically a forefather to this sound but the main difference you'll hear is in the tempo. Maybe 'Tempo' isn't the right term but there is an overall increased sense of energy/hype.

Also, with this newer stuff, elements of previous EDM genres are clear as day (they dont always work though).

  

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124. "RE: Mike Will is trap for rapping"
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>he's technically a forefather to this sound but the main
>difference you'll hear is in the tempo. Maybe 'Tempo' isn't
>the right term but there is an overall increased sense of
>energy/hype.
>
>Also, with this newer stuff, elements of previous EDM genres
>are clear as day (they dont always work though).


It's a structure difference.. Rap records are usually intro... 16 bar verse .. 8 bar hook and repeat verse/hook combo...

These are inherently 'dance' records which means they adhere to the ideas of build up and release much more than a 'rap' record

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123. "New Mix by Willy Joy for IMF Mag"
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got Thugli on it too

http://imfmag.com/2012/08/03/imfmag-presents-exclusive-mix-08-featuring-willy-joy/

Kill The Noise – Roots (Brillz Remix)
Willy Joy – Beats & Pussy
Diplo – Express Yourself (Gent & Jawns Remix)
Kae’p – Lean & Get Lit
Baauer – Yaow
Schlachthofbronx – Slowine
Thugli – We Bout It
Silver Medallion – Stay Young (Udachi Remix)
Flosstradamus – Look At The Sky (Instrumental)
Obey City – Neva Knew (Baauer Remix)
Willy Joy – Wild Horses
Basswood Lane – Ciabatta Bread
The Prodigy – Voodoo People (Tens Remix)
Team Bayside High – Overdrawn
Gucci Mane – Photoshoot
Willy Joy – With Eyes Wide Open
Dillon Francis – Masta Blasta (The Rebirth)
Mele – Stage 2.0.2 (All The Way Turnt Up)
Chief Keef – I Don’t Like (Willy Joy Bootleg)
DJ Solo – Chicken Wang
Surkin – Lose Yourself (Rustie Remix)
Big Makk – I Remember
Willy Joy – Woman Like Me (Flinch Remix)

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125. "MORRI$ is the only one i might actually listen to"
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he sounds like trap meets Rustie meets something more mellowed out like Submotion Orchestra

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129. "From T.I. To TNGHT: A Look At Trap Rave (Swipe)"
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Source: http://stereogum.com/1115091/from-t-i-to-tnght-a-look-at-trap-rave/top-stories/lead-story/

Do a search for “trap” on SoundCloud and you’ll find more than 500 tracks uploaded with the tag in the last three days. What’s interesting, though, are the labels that show up with the most frequency in the similar tags section: “bass,” “club,” “dance,” “dj,” “dubstep,” and “electronic” appear right below the expected “rap,” “hip-hop,” “remix,” and “South.” The correlation is directly reflective of a newly burgeoning movement where SoundCloud-fiending musicians have been using trap-like instrumentals to create a sub-genre of their own: trap-rave.

In August of 2003, a 22-year-old T.I. released his second album, Trap Muzik, on his newly debuted Grand Hustle label. Executive produced by DJ Toomp — a former Miami Bass aficionado and producer and tour DJ for MC Shy-D and 2 Live Crew — the record was the first to bring mainstream attention to this particular style of Southern rap via a handful of rap radio hits like “Rubberband Man,” “24s,” and “Be Easy.” The underlying concept was pretty straightforward: to share stories and street wit on the realities and often-glamorized lifestyle of drug-laden pockets of urban Atlanta. These areas made up “the trap,” and telling its story became the glue that bonded a new class of rappers from the South. “Whether you in the trap selling dope, in the trap buying dope, or in the trap trying to get out,” T.I. once said on making Trap Muzik. “It’s informative for people who don’t know nothing about that side of life.”

Atlanta natives Young Jeezy and Gucci Mane soon followed, breaking to national rap and mixtape audiences with their own trap releases (Trap Or Die and Trap House, respectively) that made the genre an entire movement. “At the beginning it shared a foundation with the blues, like a lot of music from the South,” explains Gucci Mane producer Burn One via telephone. “A lot of rappers were talking about stuff they didn’t have and heartbreak. Right after Jeezy came out, it made dudes like him think, ‘OK, I can do that too.’” While Burn One notes that it’s a genre that’s spawned by the same social commentary and grittiness that lays the foundation for most rap — one about survival — he stresses that trap is made for the club. “In Atlanta, trap music is strip club music. It’s hard to play anything else because, as a sound, it hits so hard. It’s brash.” At its core, the trap music sound is reflective of the lifestyle it comes from.

Not much has changed on the production side of the genre either. Like many of his affiliates, Burn One credits Toomp for the instrumental origins of trap. It’s a heavy, bouncing pulse that lies within a few degrees of a 75-beat-per-minute tempo and often uses hyper snares and knocking 808s to break the beat into an energetic double or quadruple time. Focused drums are simultaneously reflective of the sauntering swag of the South and the aggressiveness of the trap way of life; high-hats that are shrill and tightly wound and bass that thuds with earth-trembling weight. There’s orchestral depth as well; a melodic loop may be paired with horns and synths that layer upon each other to create massive builds that make way for dramatic drops.

“It’s all about the subtleties,” says Burn One. For him, that may mean adding a live bassist in lieu of a drum machine, or subbing out a horn sample for a guitar riff. No track is complete before passing one final test in the club. “I was DJing a lot to fine-tune and work out my own music,” he says. “It’s always important to see what would work in the actual club setting.”

Today a rising class of dance DJs and producers use the same made-for-the-club mentality. The script has been flipped, though, as many of these musicians call clubs their home and hope to use their ingrained dancefloor know-how to their advantage. And the timing couldn’t be more perfect for those who share a love of Southern rap as well. Waka Flocka Flame and 2Chainz have been topping the rap charts in recent months and creative collaborations between indie dance producers and major-label rappers are more popular than ever. Diplo and Afrojack’s production for Chris Brown’s “Look At Me Now” is probably the most well-known track to showcase this fusion in the past year, but rap starlet Azealia Banks’s recently released Fantasea is the boldest. The mixtape boasts production from UK dubstep maven Ikonika, IDM producer Machine Drum, LuckyMe affiliate Hudson Mohawke, and Lunice. While pop has embraced the feel-good, sing-songy, major chord progressions of house music, rap has started to turn to the weird, weighty, abrasiveness of the underground bass community.

Enter the much buzzed-about Internet-birthed sub-genre of “trap-rave.” As with any trend to come out of the SoundCloud ether, there’s plenty of confusion and debate surrounding the comically blunt moniker. What is it? Who makes it? How can it wear the “trap” badge when it’s not from the trap? And, most importantly, does anyone care? While blogosphere tastemakers like Mad Decent have remixed trap MCs with electro via their series of Free Gucci mixtapes, and hip-hop producers like Lex Luger commonly use massive electronic builds on tracks for Gucci Mane’s Brick Squad imprint, this particular movement is one whose computer-produced hip-hop instrumental revelry is aimed at the club and not the studio. That is, many of these tracks are being released as dance tracks rather than a rapper’s freestyle playground.

To be fair, most of these off-kilter electronic step-siblings are more removed from trap than their hashtags let on. Many are simply instrumentals that carry the same gritty, heavy, 70bpm thump and 808s as their favorite Southern rap. 19-year-old Baauer’s “Harlem Shake” is a perfect example and has been one of the biggest tracks to break through to hip-to-it bass audiences. The song’s squeaky bloated synths serve as an exaggerated spin on trap’s hissing snares, and its tinny beat builds until it crashes into the sound of a lion’s growl. Flosstradamus’s “Total Recall” takes another route, pulling together UK bass lines, gritty club, and their love of hardstyle. Here the foot-stomping, hard techno grunts are as much at play as the signature rolling snares associated with trap.

http://youtu.be/Bk1_DbbzSdY
http://youtu.be/Hn7JzFCAAkE

It’s important to note that, although these productions happily coincide with a resurgence of Top 10 trap hits, it’s also a natural progression for this collective of bass-loving dance maestros. Flosstradamus’s upcoming release will come out on A-Trak and Nick Catchdub’s Fool’s Gold imprint, a label that has basically kinged the market on connecting the velvet ropes between strip-club rap and bottle-service house (Danny Brown, AraabMuzik, Just Blaze, Yelawolf, and Jackie Chain are signees and affiliates). More significant, however, is the still-growing popularity of dubstep. Not only does the subterranean wobble share the same +/- 70/140 beat-per-minute push, but it fosters the same slow, escalating tension that’s released at the drop. Between Girl Unit’s post-dubstep grooves, the “maximalism” associated with Rustie’s gorgeously lush orchestrations, and the trance squeals behind AraabMuzik’s concoctions, it was only a matter of time until some new hashtag genre was born to fill in the gaps.

Last week’s release of Hudson Mohawke and Lunice’s collaborative debut with their eponymous TNGHT EP might be the best example of these worlds merging both on and off the dance-floor. While the duo shies away from being labeled as dance producers, they too have collaborated with Girl Unit and Rustie on bass tracks. However, the pair is adamant that their sound has little to do with the Internet-hyped genre of trap-rave. “We put this record together last year,” said Hudson in an interview with the Independent. “It just seems to coincide with this new wave of music.” Lunice agrees. “There are similarities in how hard it hits and just because of the 808s, people assume it’s trap. While everyone’s making trap, we’re just making something else. We’re focusing on putting out tracks for rappers.” As much as the duo avoids the “trap” moniker, there’s some validity to it: Waka Flocka Flame rapped over Lunice’s “Good Kids” and TNGHT recently released an official remix of the rapper’s “Rooster In My Rari.”

http://youtu.be/y251kbgioJ0

But how do producers actually from Atlanta feel about this recent co-opting of trap music? It appears that, not only are they supporters of the trap-rave movement, but they’ve been championing the genre-meld for years. “It’s funny, Atlanta is such a bubble,” says hometown DJ Daniel Disaster. “When dubstep became big, mixing old-school trap records with new dubstep made sense to us. The crowd didn’t know half of the songs we were playing but they didn’t care because the energy was the same and it was fun.” Others in the scene included Gangsta Boo’s DJ Speakerfoxxx and the Atlanta Dubstep crew.

Disaster was 20 years-old when he was recruited by Grand Hustle in 2004 as an engineer for three T.I. albums. Since then he has gone on to work with Young Jeezy and Lil Wayne and release electro-infused remixes of rap under a variety of pseudonyms (Heroes & Villains, MeganFoxxx, Quadrant). In 2010, the DJ started a party called Heavy with the goal to play any and all music of a certain “hard, powerful, raging energy” including dubstep, dirty bass, trap, and punk. “I would go out and notice that other DJs were doing the same exact thing,” he says. “We would see clubs full of kids of different backgrounds — half the crowd was black and half was white — we’d see them go totally crazy and start a mosh pit to dubstep, and then to Waka, back-to-back.” Burn One remembers these parties as well. “You’d be listening to this dubstep track and then he would throw a Gucci a capella on top. It was trippy, really trippy, but I liked it.”

http://soundcloud.com/heroesxvillains/gucci-mane-lemonade-heroes-villains-rmx

And then there was the time that Gucci Mane made an appearance himself. “We’re all a tight-knit community,” Disaster explains. “Lil Jon, Pill, Big Boi, Yelawolf — they would come by when they were in town to hang out and hear new music. Some of them performed or partied with us, they loved it.” As for Gucci’s visit, Disaster recalls when the rapper freestyled in the middle of one such party in 2010. “Gucci was hanging out one of the times he got out ,” says Disaster. “Everyone was having a good time and Gucci was really feeling the that was playing and jumped on the mic for a verse.”

So it looks like trap-rave might have some staying power after all. As for the moniker, no one seems to be too concerned with it. “Flosstradamus and I are huge fans of each other,” says Disaster. “They’ve mixed their love of hardstyle and mixtapes and have created something amazingly good and new and not trap.” Burn One agrees. “It’s interesting to hear this spin. Trap has always been about a lifestyle and you can’t emulate a lifestyle,” he says. “But a name is just a name and no one owns a style of music. We’ve learned from the people before us and now people are taking what we’ve done to make their own style. As long as it’s good, it’s cool by me.”

  

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130. "New mix by Atlanta's BLKKMORRIS and Ira G"
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http://itzsoweezee.com/blkkmorris-x-ira-g-trapacana-mixtape/

this shit GOES

tracklist:

Cyberoptics - Pimpin
Heroes x Villians - Original Choppaz
Weeknd - Next (Keys N Krates Remix)
Mister Tweeks - Addiction
Kirko Bangz - Drank In My Cup
Zebra Katz - Ima Read (Ira G. Remix)
Lil Scrappy - Helicopter (Instrumental)
Chief Keef - I Don't Like x Chief Keef - Understand me (feat. Young Jeezy)
Crime Mob - Knuck If You Buck (Jay Envy Hood Rich Deftones Remix)
Lil Scrappy - F.I.LA.
Mayhem & Antiserum - Bricksquad Anthem
ETC!ETC! & Brillz - Swoop
Flosstradamus & DJ Sliink - Test Me(Flithy Disco Remix)
5kinAndBone5 & Robert Jeffrey – Penis Power
DONNIS - Hello Kitty
LiL TExAS - (Aww) Girl It's True
2 Chainz - Birthday Song (feat. Kanye West)
DJ Sliink - Everyday
Gregor Salto - Bouncing Harbour Funkin Matt Rmx - (Munchi Still Thinks Funkin Matt Should Do Moombahton VIP)
TNGHT - Goooo
RL Grime - Art Money
Grip Plyaz - Fuck Dat Hipster Shit
Dillion Francis - Masta Blasta (The Rebirth) x 2 Chainz - Riot
Future - Magic
UZ & CRNKN - Booty 2 The Ground x Big K.R.I.T - What You Mean(feat. Ludacris)
Ira G. - See Me

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165. "that new HxV "original choppas" is nasty"
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131. "trap?"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2731072&mesg_id=2731072&page=

  

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133. "why anyone would waste time creating such a monstrosity is beyond me"
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134. "ohh shots fired, haha"
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but anyway this thread and the "trap" movement popped in my head while listening so the question stands

  

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135. "I'm more curious as to what triggered the trap association for YOU"
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in other words, how would you describe the elements.

I've been sifting thru alot of EDM-flavored "trap" (i personally call it Electro-Trap on my itunes to separate from the Bricksquad stuff) that just sounds like kids who were making Dubstep last week then switched over.

It's like these guys completely ignore the needed space between the 808s and relevance of hi-hat speed and just go at it willynilly. Their shit almost always has NO "BOUNCE" while it technically has all the ingredients.



to answer your question though, i'd say no. It's not trap.

  

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howisya
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136. "the trap style drum programming/sound"
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it could very well be projection on my part


>in other words, how would you describe the elements.

i am really not versed in this style/movement like some of you. before this thread i was familiar with a few of these artists and tracks, but i didn't know they had been christened anything. to me they were just southern hip-hop-inspired electronic (dance) music. i've got my mind and ears open to whatever you guys post up. i'm always here to learn.

  

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137. "Double-O articulates production methods the best..."
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i wanna hear his indepth description as well as wrecknoble, astralblak or if we are lucky...the Vice Lord of Trap: Sir atruhead

  

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141. "the reason"
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i kept hearing 'when in doubt' over and over and over and over and over in my head for like a day. by the end of the day it had evolved into all of those sounds bouncing off of each other in my head (boom, ratattatatat, tom roll, when in doubt when in doubt (imagine if we're face to face me sounding these all out)). if you listen it's more or less a clusterfuckery summary of the last few dominant themes in the lesson seeping into my ear canal and trying to decay my creative process. fortunately i have the ability and the means to just get them out of my head and move on.

have you ever heard anything like that before? how would you classify it (beyond your obvious displeasure with it)? what was the most grating part? was there anything that made you say, you know if it was ____ it'd be tolerable?

  

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142. "makes sense after your explaination"
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>have you ever heard anything like that before?

nah...

>how would you classify it (beyond your obvious displeasure with it)?

Hard to say...i wish i could say experimental but even those tracks have some degree of a noticeable direction.

>what was the most grating part?

The looping distorted guitar. The seemingly randomized drums. The vocal chop. They all had an equal role.

>was there anything that made you say, you know if it was ____ it'd be tolerable?

nah not really. It just sounds directionless. Like you took a surplus of samples and played them with little regard to rhyme or reason. It sounds like it was a piece you did to fuck around so Im not seriously displeased...i just dont see the value.

  

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138. "Heroes x Villains - Original Choppaz & Documentary Details"
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http://itzsoweezee.com/heroes-x-villains-original-choppaz/

details:

Atlanta based production duo Heroes x Villains is announcing a new EP and Trap music documentary in partnership with the premiere mixtape website LiveMixtapes.com and it’s sister site ClubTapes.com. The documentary Certified Trap traces the evolution of Trap music from its beginnings as a seminal southern Hip-Hop movement to its recent rebirth that fuses traditional Trap with electronic music – an aggressive new sound being embraced by music-forward youth cultures across the United States. Certified Trap also features cameos from Trap icons Waka Flacka, Trap-A-Holics, Drumma Boy, Sonny Digital and DJ Spinz as well as producers who are driving the new Trap sound such as Flosstradamus and FKi.

Accompanying the documentary will be Run The Trap, an EP from Heroes x Villains – who the film focuses on as a pivotal force in Trap’s resurgence – that captures the essence of the sub-genre’s forward progress. The first single “OG Choppaz†will be released, along with a trailer for Run The Trap on August 14th at 12pm EST, 2012. All music and video content for the EP and documentary will be available exclusively on ClubTapes.com

“OG… the beginning, the genesis. Every trend, every movement has a starting point, a nexus; with individuals operating as frontiersmen often with little to no recognition until the predominant culture takes notice and sometimes, not even then.

‘Trap music,’ a genre notorious for it’s high octane, aggressive beats, is the new buzz word in dance music circles. But it’s hardly ‘new’ at all… in fact, this sound has dominated rap for nearly decade. Atlanta, Georgia has served as the nexus point, with producers like DJ Toomp, Shawty Redd and Zaytoven (to name a few) acting as forefathers for the sound that’s been garnering so much attention recently.

As natives to Atlanta, Heroes x Villains understand and celebrate this history. This is the ethos behind their latest record, ‘OG Choppaz,’ a sonic manifestation of where trap music comes from, to where it appears to be going.â€

Having been the exclusive host to releases from countless Trap stars, Livemixtapes.com it’s a logical step in their own evolution to help introduce the next generation and their new EDM affiliate, ClubTapes.com. Trap’s new class will reap the benefits of being exposed to the online mixtape destination’s over 2 million unique visitors monthly.

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139. "oh wow...lol @ the haters"
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140. "these are interesting times"
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those of us in our mid 20s and older remember the mainstream popularity of electronic music, or "electronica," in the '90s, which faded away by the early '00s. there was always electronic music that was under the radar/surface, and fans never stopped listening because of the abundance of great music for those who cared enough to dig for it. of course electronic music and rap music have had a give and take relationship (influence) since always. now i can honestly say i'm witnessing something new.

  

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147. "DOCUMENTARY TRAILER"
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http://itzsoweezee.com/certified-trap-trailer/

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193. "anyone ID the track with the bjork sample about 5 minutes into the doc"
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when the bol from club tapes starts talking?

  

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143. "NEW MIX: DeMiggs - ITZ A TRAP (+ Party Details)"
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the 2 year anniversary of our monthly party, ITZSOWEEZEE, is around the corner, and you're all invited (even haters, we love you too.. lol)

ITZSOWEEZEE 2nd Anniversary
HEADLINERS TO BE ANNOUNCED SOON!
Friday, August 31st, 2012
Drake Underground (1150 Queen Street West, Toronto)
Doors @ 11pm
E-mail guestlist@itzsoweezee.com for line bypass before 12am
More info:
http://itzsoweezee.com/itzsoweezee-2nd-anniversary/

and one of the co-founders of ITZSO, DJ DeMiggs, just dropped his newest mix, dubbed "ITZ A TRAP", to get everyone amped for the jam..

http://itzsoweezee.com/itzsoweezee-mix002/

Tracklist:
XV & Willy Joy – Wonkavator Wide Open (DeMiggs Mash)
TNGHT x Waka Flocka – Bugg’n (DeMiggs Edit)
Bo$$k – VIP
ƱZ – Trap Shit V9
Cobra Krames – Ratchet Pu666y
Leisure – Hood Cake
Donnis – Hello Kitty
Yung Joc – Goin Down (Milo & Otis Unoriginal Mix)
Jay-Z – Big Pimpin’ (Wuki Bootleg)
Chief Keef – 3 Hunned (Dj Tim Dolla Remix)
Nader – Frenchie Don’t Stop
Brenmar & DJ Sliink – Bait
Juicy J – Bandz Make Her Dance (Nader Remix)
Thugli – Weyvee

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144. "who are your haters?"
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where did all of these haters come from in the last few years that everybody always talks about having? i don't remember haters growing up. what's their story?

  

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145. "lol we have some"
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everyone successful has some

i don't need to say who they are or even if they are on this forum, i just added that sentence as a joke, not that serious lol

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158. "PARTY UPDATE (if you're in Toronto this Friday, REACH)"
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some updates to the 2 year anniversary of Itzsoweezee.. the debut of Thugli live.. if you like trap and are in Toronto, come through and kick it with us.

http://www.facebook.com/events/143987202406435/

ITZSOWEEZEE PRESENTS THE 2ND ANNIVERSARY

IT HAS BEEN 2 YEARS WORTHY OF CELEBRATION AND WE WILL PARTY AS SUCH!

♪ GRANDTHEFT
(Special Video DJ Set / Eh! Team DJs)
http://soundcloud.com/Grandtheft
http://twitter.com/Grandtheft
https://facebook.com/GrandtheftMusic

♪ THUGLI
(Drastik & Tom Wrecks)
http://soundcloud.com/Thugli
https://facebook.com/ThugliMusic
http://twitter.com/ThugliMusic

♪ DEMIGGS
http://twitter.com/DeMiggs
http://soundcloud.com/demiggs


@ THE DRAKE UNDERGROUND

Doors Open @ 11PM

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For Guest List Line By-Pass email: guestlist@itzsoweezee.com

GUEST LIST CLOSES 12:00am

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146. "New Flosstradamus "Underground Anthem""
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http://itzsoweezee.com/flosstradamus-undergr%e2%98%a2und-anthem/

bangs pretty hard.. a bit more uptempo too

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148. "So I went to a free Flosstradamas & Araabmuzik show in NYC"
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A DJ by the name of Nick Hook was spinning between the sets...outside of a traditional minimalist techno group Teenage Fantasy it was ALL trap.

What I found most interesting was the makeup of the crowd. Around 1/4th of the space was separated for 21 and over crowd and that stayed half empty until late in the sets (and even then it was split between young working stiffs/hipsters). OVERWHELMINGLY the crowd was all teenagers of all shapes and colors.

  

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149. "damb...thoughts on the Floss and Araab sets? Crowd reaction?"
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150. "It seemed they were there more for Floss more so then Araab"
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they had the crowd eating out of the palm of their hand. Only beef is that 90% of their set was an exact copy of their 'Banned' mixtape. Crowd went nuts for the 'Original Don' drop though when they were teasing it.

Araabmuzik ive seen two or three times now. Ten minutes of technical difficulty at the start of his set ruined some of the momentum, but he quickly won them back over. Thing is with Araab that the live playing gives him an edge since people are geeked off his virtuoso MPC playing AND he plays a really solid set of dance able music.

  

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153. "Araab really seems like he's on some new shit to me"
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>Araabmuzik ive seen two or three times now. Ten minutes of
>technical difficulty at the start of his set ruined some of
>the momentum, but he quickly won them back over. Thing is
>with Araab that the live playing gives him an edge since
>people are geeked off his virtuoso MPC playing AND he plays a
>really solid set of dance able music.

even though he's been doing this for years, the idea of something like that is something that's been more mimed than actually done... which is awesome

  

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151. "when i saw Floss"
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in Toronto, they absolutely destroyed shit, i have videos of the night on my phone and ppl were going apeshit insane.. girls dancing on top of tables and all that..

i can understand the younger crowd thing.. in Toronto the drinking age is 19+, so i would say the crowd was mostly in the range of 19-23, with some of us older (i'm 27 lol) cats sprinkled in.. most of us were industry-related in one way or another though.

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159. "photo meme version of this post:"
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160. "haha, perfect."
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161. "lmao"
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http://i54.tinypic.com/2j51hj4.jpg

  

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162. "RE: photo meme version of this post:"
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stealing this and posting it on instagram a.s.a.p

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163. "also relevant: http://whitepeoplelovetrap.ytmnd.com/"
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http://whitepeoplelovetrap.ytmnd.com/


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164. "lol"
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166. "i had no idea this shit was so huge till this year"
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i used to see HxV and Speakerfox play this at grimy ass atlanta bars at just assumed it was a regional thing

then i moved to detroit this spring and my little brother asked me if id ever heard of it

although the locally produced trap shit in atl is way less polished than some of the hudson mohawke or flosstradamus stuff

  

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169. "(dead horse?) So Many Shrimp weighs in"
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http://www.complex.com/music/2012/10/real-trap-sht-the-commodification-of-southern-raps-drug-fueled-subgenre

  

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170. "im fine with dancey trap music, just not them calling it trap music"
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or rather, im not fine with journalists calling it a new thing rather than just a style related to EDM's absorption of everything whether its hip hop, R&B, whatever.

  

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171. "I disagree. Give us our props for it"
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Considering how many building blocks minorities built in EDM only to not be able to reap the benefits, I like the blatant shoutout

>or rather, im not fine with journalists calling it a new
>thing rather than just a style related to EDM's absorption of
>everything whether its hip hop, R&B, whatever.

  

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172. "RE: I disagree. Give us our props for it"
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I do think the name limits the shelf life..

I am sure it'll be around for a while. Bass music always is. But naming it after something that already has a name in another genre is a bit off putting....

fuck it tho

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173. "i dont understand your comment"
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>Considering how many building blocks minorities built in EDM
>only to not be able to reap the benefits, I like the blatant
>shoutout

blatant shoutout? its not much diff from what guys like diplo and them were doing when it was crunk imo. im just waiting to find out who the new spank rock is going to be. and as for reaping benefits, well let me know when lex luger and mike will are headlining some of these EDM events.

  

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174. "It's a bit different from Diplo"
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Because it really IS a dance movement.

My thing is that the difference between trap on the hip-hop side and trap on the dance is very small, sure you've got your dance music staples of letting the beat drop and build again...etc...but those beats could easily be rapped OR dance over.

The handful of times i heard a Trap set, they play those luger and mike will* they play those tracks unmolested...MAYBE speed up a bit. And the set is still built mostly around the original hip-hop tracks, it's probably 70% hip-hop, 30% their interpretation of it.

It's just nice to have a genre start here, and get credit for it, as opposed to people who used to act like there was no hip-hop influence in drum&bass, etc.


>>Considering how many building blocks minorities built in
>EDM
>>only to not be able to reap the benefits, I like the blatant
>>shoutout
>
>blatant shoutout? its not much diff from what guys like diplo
>and them were doing when it was crunk imo. im just waiting to
>find out who the new spank rock is going to be. and as for
>reaping benefits, well let me know when lex luger and mike
>will are headlining some of these EDM events.

  

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175. "lol who are these people? "
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>It's just nice to have a genre start here, and get credit for
>it, as opposed to people who used to act like there was no
>hip-hop influence in drum&bass, etc.

hundreds of jungle tunes sampled lines from rap records in the early/mid 90s (never mind the breaks)... but you couldnt play drum n bass alongside hip hop like you can play flosstradamus next to waka flocka. (anyway the real problem with D&B and hip hop was that hip hop artists didnt want anything to do with D&B, not the other way round, but thats another oooooold post).

i dont really see 'trap' really going that far tbh, just cos it seems a bit too faddish, and not really its own thing, its just a slightly goofy, ravier take (why do all these guys jumping on hip hop or things like bmore club have to treat it so stupidly? is it REALLY that funny?) on whats already going on in rap, which makes me think its just an adjunct to it rather than the start of something new. its cool in a way that people are championing one strand of hip hop and doing their own thing with it, i just dont think its THAT special so far. (unless youre talking about someone like kuedo). its just hipster-hop pt 2.

  

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176. "I kind of want it to win for 2 reasons"
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1)When I saw Flosstradomas, the kids (not hipsters) really really loved it...I genuinely think it can have legs.

2)With the rise of Euro-techno in pretty much every facet of popular music, dance music that 'bumps' is sorely needed. It's less about what hip-hop needs at this point, but giving young suburban teens who lean towards dance tracks a viable alternative to the wub wub of dubstep or another decade of David Guetta .

You're right where it's nothing new under the sun on both sides of the coin, however I will say it's probably the closest hip-hop has been aligned to dance music since the hip-house days or even the electro/disco break breakdance era.



>i dont really see 'trap' really going that far tbh, just cos
>it seems a bit too faddish, and not really its own thing, its
>just a slightly goofy, ravier take (why do all these guys
>jumping on hip hop or things like bmore club have to treat it
>so stupidly? is it REALLY that funny?) on whats already going
>on in rap, which makes me think its just an adjunct to it
>rather than the start of something new. its cool in a way that
>people are championing one strand of hip hop and doing their
>own thing with it, i just dont think its THAT special so far.
>(unless youre talking about someone like kuedo). its just
>hipster-hop pt 2.
>

  

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177. "^^this"
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if you don't think Trap is here to stay, you have no idea whats about to come next. and its not going to be fad status like dubstep is right now, which is on its way out, its not overwhelming or annoying to as many people. This shit is organic, and is already entrenched in a lot of scenes, in cities all over the world, and its just the beginning.

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179. "It's odd man"
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Trap is basically on the fence for me. Between BORING (same template for everyone/lack of basslines/near-zero melodic structure) and PROMISING.

I went to Low End Theory to see UZ 2 weeks ago and like BigRed said, the kids are LOVING it. For example one DJ got up and started playing the tried&true Hip-hop set and folks went out side to smoke until the Trap came back on lol. UZ got up and mixed in alot of Southern HipHop/Trap with no problem. No one is really moved by that brainfeeder/dilla-esque stuff anymore. The love for this shit is way stronger.

Its become hard to gauge because when I made this post it was mid-summer and LA was electric off this shit at events. It still is to some degree. I have to wait and see how it develops by next summer.

But when cats up old posts to voice their displeasure and prophecies for its death...it just seems wildly out of touch.

  

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180. "ha@these two replies"
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'dubstep is on its way out'
'trap isnt like dubstep'
'brainfeeder was hot but now no one cares'

im not saying every scene has to stick around forever, a lot of my favourite genres havent been like that, and i love a sound that makes its mark then falls off quickly and dissapears, but your replies just make me wonder how quickly and how even more faddish than ever before a lot of these little sounds that spring up are now. real trap music, ie as made by rap producers, will be around for a lot longer than this so called trap music.

(though if these bandwagoneers make rap producers move on to something new, im all for it, its been a while and trap has has its time imo)

  

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181. "and im not trying to simply declare its death"
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i love the incorporations of trap from rustie, kuedo especially, and that original don remix is good too, but as a genre, or as a scene (whatever that means these days post-internet), i admit i am cynical about traps longevity. give it 6 months, a year tops, and this thing will be where bmore club was after diplo and low budget and those were when they got tired of it. ditto favela funk.

  

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183. "relative to where dubstep was last year"
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for kids, and what looks like is going to happen, its definitely "on its way out", not sure if you were dismissing what i said or not. And you are totally right about how sounds can come in and out of style very quickly now a days, but thats where people's listening styles are at right now.

Trap to me has longevity because it's range is much greater and broader than something like dubstep. at least what mainstream dubstep has become, it all sounds very cookie cutter to me, without enough variety. On the other hand, trap is different groove, that you can at the same time be energized too, or head nod to like a hip hop beat, and like hip hop you can incorporate all different flavors into it that expand what its capable of. I find that this music surprises me a lot, takes me to a lot of places i havent been to before, and brings me back nicely to a familiar place when a DJ will throw on some southern rap or what have you.

I think 6 months-a year is way to short of a timeframe to give it, it has barely reached its peak in the major cities its in, no one is really "talking about" as it seems to me, in a large scale yet. I think it has the all the potential to make a huge splash next in the coming months and especially by next summer.

And im also optimistic as I am pessimistic as one poster seemed to voice above. I think that this kind of music can get stale real fast if people dont keep pushing it in every which direction.

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178. "Agreed..."
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anyway the real problem with D&B and hip
>hop was that hip hop artists didnt want anything to do with
>D&B, not the other way round, but thats another oooooold
>post).

It may have changed later but "all" the early drum&bass and jungle-dudes seemed to idolize Hip-Hop and would rather have the music associated with that (and ragga/dancehall) than with the "EDM"-scene which I guess was considered a bit too "white" (alternatively "gay") at that stage... If anything, drum&bass' obvious roots in hardcore/house/techno was downplayed for many years and it was primarily pushed as a form of british "Black music" throughout the 90's(maybe it still is), at least that's the impression I got. Maybe it's different in USA...

  

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189. "you are not showing a very deep understanding of this"
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> and as for
>reaping benefits, well let me know when lex luger and mike
>will are headlining some of these EDM events.

Derrick May, Carl Craig, Lil' Louis, Jeff Mills, Felix the Housecat...all black american DJ's headlining dance music events worldwide

as for trap particularly, HEROESxVILLAINS was working at Grand Hustle when lex luger was like 12.

  

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198. "those pioneers have been given respect worldwide for decades"
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thats nothing new

robert hood, carl craig, jeff mills, these guys are electronic music royalty and have been for years

electronic music innovators havent been given much airtime in the US but thats cos dance music until quite recently hasnt been given much respect in the US (it just didnt take off how it did in the uk for example, where all the people you mentioned are known and respected by anyone into this kind of music)

my point is about trap specifically

yeah luger and waka get shout outs but thats no different from diplo and aaron lacrate and whoever talking up the original bmore or baille funk producers... do those original baille funk or bmore producers end up on the same bills as diplo? no.

  

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188. "lets be honest tho...black ppl abandoned techno of their own volition"
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i mean real shit like this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=EarSRa19sZc

house hung on a LITTLE bit longer, but not that much

non-black people didnt take techno from black people, we just found it by the side of the road

  

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182. "The Devolution..."
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184. "say it ain't so..."
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185. "Comedy."
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186. "asap yams on this:"
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slightly confused about jeezy and gucci not being trap, but anyway....

“On top of that, he was the one that started the whole—I don’t want to say he started that, but he brought the whole trap music, he brought the whole trap reference to the spotlight. I think it kind of fucked it up, cause it’s like, people’s whole outlook on trap music is Young Jeezy over a Shawty Redd beat or Gucci Mane over a Zaytoven beat, and that’s not what trap music is. Trap music is like southern rap music that talks about the stuff about dopeboy shit, about hustling, you know what I’m saying? That’s what his second album, Trap Muzik, you feel me?

“That shit I hope they all crawl up in a hole and die. Like the whole LA scene and shit needs to just die, please. That shit is just so insulting. All the records, I don’t care. All the trap beat days on soundcloud, they got to go. They’re really the worst. They took a music that was so beautiful and so great, and they just took that shit to hell. Trap is always going to be the trap, but that shit is just—they making a mockery of that shit.”

  

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187. "i don't really get his point"
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why is he so mad?

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214. "cause the perception is yt boys imitatiing lex luger/zae etc."
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and getting acclaim for it

  

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cgonz00cc
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215. "but you, more than most, should know its not true"
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217. "im not riding with it cause actually fux with alotta trap "
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i just hate that they call it trap
and it just seems like dudes who do "this"
are seemingly taken more seriously than the og's


and the perception is white cats do trap
not saying its right but its the perception

  

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190. "again, HxV helped MAKE the album he's wistfully describing"
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191. "this is what happens when the rest of the world tries to do ATL shit"
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192. "THUGLI + Itzsoweezee Trip to LA Recap Video <LINK>"
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http://itzsoweezee.com/thugli-yyztolax/

shout out to Dim Mak studios for hosting the fam.. proud of the crew.

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194. "EDM is not my choice of music to listen to"
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not a fan of the oontz, sorry.

https://twitter.com/chuck4prez

  

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195. "this dont even "oontz" tho...how bout this?"
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https://soundcloud.com/djsliinkbbc/dj-sliink-stop-me-now

  

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197. "to me, it's the same difference. not a fan of electronic music."
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https://twitter.com/chuck4prez

  

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196. "RE: The Evolution of Trap and EDMs Influence [Skrillex does trap smh]"
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This post is probably as good as any to post this:

A selection of rap/trap from 2012 mixed by me:

https://soundcloud.com/jayplays/jamz-2012

  

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199. "just wanted to say dont forget DIPSET TRANCE PARTY"
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seriously underrated set of tranced out beats imo

  

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200. "RE: The Evolution of Trap and EDMs Influence [Skrillex does trap smh]"
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My Latest Project...

Enjoy the Holidays!!!

http://soundcloud.com/micthedrums/bora-bora

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLwTpLrUeD0&feature=youtu.be

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201. "congratulations"
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>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLwTpLrUeD0&feature=youtu.be

This video contains content from WMG, SME, EMI Music
Publishing, Warner Chappell and Kobalt Music Publishing, one
or more of whom have blocked it in your country on copyright
grounds.

  

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202. "RE: congratulations"
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GOOGLE Algorithm FTW!!!

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203. "that's enough lipp from you, boy"
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“A lot of producers, myself included, taught themselves how to make music by making hip-hop beats. Most styles of (Electronic Dance Music) are influenced directly by hip-hop, especially with heavy bass, and recently with all the trap beats. One of the most important aspects of hip-hop culture is the emphasis on being original and not being a biter. That’s one thing the (EDM) could use a little more of. People are scared to set themselves apart from the norm, but risks need to be taken in order to progress.” – Eliot Lipp

  

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204. "when did he write this, 1994?"
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>One of the most important aspects of hip-hop culture is
>the emphasis on being original and not being a biter.

  

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205. "Damn i hate yall motherfuckers"
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"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." © Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

  

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206. "dont shoot the messenger"
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207. "none of it is black music, shit is soulless"
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208. "Just Blaze is blacker than you n/m"
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"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

  

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209. "lol its been well established u have no idea what you're talking abt"
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better let fki know they arent black

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfpWW56nbXA

lunice too

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HzyUHxmkg0

im sure they will be surprised to hear that, while at the same time wondering who the fuck you're supposed to be

while you're here to be the grand arbiter of things could you on the blackness of techno or house music?

i assume you have nothing substantive to reply with so activate unfunny joke involving homosexuality or whiteness in 3...2..1

  

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210. "What a horrible thing to say"
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lines like that ensure that we just keep on recycling the same old shit staying in our same small ass bubble while white boys flip it and stay cakey.


  

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216. "Hudson Mohawke has first production credits on half of Yeezus"
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lol

  

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