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denny
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"Denny challenges Maxxx to critique the song herein:"


          

It's called 'Wrong Opinion' by NY hipster act 'Chairlift':

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk0WHOM-acU&feature=relmfu

  

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the chick sounds like Til Tuesday meets the cranberrys
May 29th 2012
1
Cheers.
May 29th 2012
2
      sounds like early 80's synth pop i use to listen to
May 29th 2012
3
           the thing is....
May 29th 2012
4
                lets not get it twisted they are not the Eurhythmics or the Carpenters
May 29th 2012
5
                     You can listen to that whole album
May 29th 2012
6
                     Also....
Jun 01st 2012
21
                     Bingo - Maxx be on point
Feb 12th 2013
38
maxxx baiting, hyperbole in the other topic, and ironic song title aside
May 30th 2012
7
nothing particular stand out about the act
May 30th 2012
8
i understand where you're coming from with this
May 30th 2012
9
      oh yeah if you want til tuesday and everything but the girl
May 30th 2012
10
Nothing like that.....
May 31st 2012
17
      i don't really hear anything distinictive about them like that
Jun 01st 2012
26
           Very much like the Carptenters here:
Jun 01st 2012
28
                ain't no Karen Carpenter talent in there Man
Jun 01st 2012
31
                No.....
Jun 01st 2012
33
                i mean, if it's Karen Carpenter you're after,
Jun 01st 2012
32
lol
May 31st 2012
11
piece f trash i got more clue than you can imagine
May 31st 2012
12
      lol, but you ever so clearly don't, maxxx.
May 31st 2012
13
      turkey you can't hang with me on no music talk
May 31st 2012
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           you're full of shit.
May 31st 2012
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                typical player hater and a typical Stan behavior
May 31st 2012
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                     oh, maxxx
Jun 01st 2012
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                          Question.....
Jun 01st 2012
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                          i think that they're pretty much at the top of the heap
Jun 01st 2012
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                               Hmmmm
Jun 01st 2012
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                               i think your enthusiasm is well-founded.
Jun 01st 2012
23
                               great track but wrong nite jewel appreciation moment
Jun 01st 2012
29
                          so is your momma
Jun 01st 2012
24
                               you talk like you're homeless.
Jun 01st 2012
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                                    i talk like a Pimp and got phat pockets turkey.
Jun 01st 2012
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                                         sure you do.
Jun 01st 2012
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                                         Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!
Jun 01st 2012
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      Pay him no mind Brother Maxxx. He ain't worth your time.
Jun 01st 2012
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           You are very ugly.
Jun 02nd 2012
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let's hear it for the carpenters huh they were good
Feb 12th 2013
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mistermaxxx08
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1. "the chick sounds like Til Tuesday meets the cranberrys "
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its cool and very mid 80's sounding. it ain't great or anything like that. catchy for synth pop and works in that medium.

could be effective in a movie scene and i can see a visual their.

if this is considered the best thing over the past 20 years then Enya is on Carol King's level and that ain't even close to the truth IMO.

this is better than a certain amount of things in modern pop and yet its right in the middle as well.

i'd give it a 7.5 out of 10.

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denny
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2. "Cheers."
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But methinks you underestimate it.

I beg for your opinion of this song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98XRKr19jIE

  

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mistermaxxx08
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3. "sounds like early 80's synth pop i use to listen to"
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its cool for what it is and it could have worked in the early 90's as well,however its more about Production than Songwriting. catchy and good for radio, however no depth and you can't sink your teeth into it.

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

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4. "the thing is...."
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Tue May-29-12 02:25 AM by denny

          

songwriting is incredible in this new hot pop music duo. Real love when you watch this video. They can rocknroll too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atKuhrPnLq8

  

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5. "lets not get it twisted they are not the Eurhythmics or the Carpenters"
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its cool for what they do, however i ain't heard a thing from those clips and elsewhere when I'm saying and thinking the Carpenters would have had anything to worry about.

dude you seem to forget I've been around a while and heard the cream of the crop.
and this act is maybe almost good at best, however nothing special IMO

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6. "You can listen to that whole album"
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Real songs, real production.

It's called 'Something'

  

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21. "Also...."
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Fri Jun-01-12 12:58 AM by denny

          

It's interesting you mentioned the Carpenters. In the melody structure I can see that in a couple other tunes they did too. And also the vocal delivery. But can't help thinking that influence was gotten via third party. Ie sade. or Kate Bush.

  

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38. "Bingo - Maxx be on point"
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Tue Feb-12-13 01:04 PM by Artful Dodger

          

I even hate Rkelly but because of this man I have to at least consider him - everything else coming from Maxx is dead on.

He's schooling cats without the dissertation.

  

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7. "maxxx baiting, hyperbole in the other topic, and ironic song title aside"
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nice song, denny

  

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8. "nothing particular stand out about the act"
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if you are into early 80's artic freeze synth based cuts well alright,however its nothing i haven't heard done a 100 times better by other acts. feels kind of novelty if you ask me.

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9. "i understand where you're coming from with this"
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it's a sound that calls back to music from the '80s not everyone likes or wants to hear again, but i think they are good songwriters and musicians who pull it off. there are a lot of people doing this style, but this is some of the better music in this vein out now, at least from the songs i've heard.

  

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10. "oh yeah if you want til tuesday and everything but the girl"
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type of acts then yeah, however this mess is cute and predictable and nothing that merits even being talked about in a 5 year window let alone a 10.

dime a dozen cute act.

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17. "Nothing like that....."
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Fri Jun-01-12 12:00 AM by denny

          

Me and Maxxx post late at night. I assume he works a nightshift too. He was posting at the time I made the thread. Nothing more.

In any case....I am interested in Max' opinion when an act shows a gift for songwriting imo cause that's something he might appreciate even when the style/genre isn't his thing.

I happen to think this specific group is MUCH better than any other band they get lumped in with (from what I've heard of course). I don't even normally listen to music like this. They stick out to me. Only a couple friends share my enthusiasm. Most people just shrug their shoulders. I find it confusing.

  

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26. "i don't really hear anything distinictive about them like that"
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its alright, however its accessible and kinda catchy but nothing i can say I'd buy or hear that stuff being covered 5 or 10 years down the line.

if they had something like the Carpenters then we are talking,but i don't hear nothing like that here.

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28. "Very much like the Carptenters here:"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-JWIuEmaV4

Very clear to see. Still think it's a third-person influence though.

  

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31. "ain't no Karen Carpenter talent in there Man"
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i know you trying and you are cool peoples however naw the carpenters have so many things

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33. "No....."
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It's great modern pop music. You really do love it Maxxx. It's alright. Rest your head in the swollen bosom of popular songwriting.

  

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32. "i mean, if it's Karen Carpenter you're after,"
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rumer - am i forgiven
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5z7Uxo625w

  

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11. "lol"
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like maxxx has a clue.

come on.

  

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12. "piece f trash i got more clue than you can imagine"
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however i gotta get asked about some corny enya sounding early 80's synth pop cute act that is a dime a dozen and smile

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13. "lol, but you ever so clearly don't, maxxx."
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you have a most unjustly inflated opinion of yourself.

and

that is all.

  

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14. "turkey you can't hang with me on no music talk"
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and in truth only about 20-25 folks in here can truly hang, the rest are in cliques and are spineless and you can Quote me on that.

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15. "you're full of shit."
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Thu May-31-12 11:35 PM by ninjitsu

  

          

you always have been.

which is funny because

you aren't worth shit.

so i don't know how that works.

  

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16. "typical player hater and a typical Stan behavior"
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I'm your Hero and Idol on here and you have to stalk behind me and Show your Stan ways 1)

if I say jump then you gear up like you is a Broke version of Kriss Kross and go how high? you can't hang with me on no music talk and you have to resort to cursing and swearing to make a lame attempt so its nothing but a double negative coming out of your mouth.2)

if I'm lying watch you will post behind him because you gotta follow the Leader and your jive turkey self can't help yourself trying to talk behind me and be vulgar like some of the pieces of Debris in here do 3)

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18. "oh, maxxx"
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you're such a silly bitch.

  

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19. "Question....."
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How do you think Chairlift stands with the other hipster bands? Or at least the other ones they sound similar to?

  

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20. "i think that they're pretty much at the top of the heap"
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there are others like

nite jewel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YMmX1f5sQI&feature=related

and

niki & the dove
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2f6UbMnlq4

and

frankie rose
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE56wTNj7J0

who you should check out.

actually, frankie rose probably gives chairlift a run for their money.

  

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22. "Hmmmm"
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Fri Jun-01-12 01:06 AM by denny

          

I try to hear it....can appreciate the subtle songwriting in some of that stuff too. But it always seems to be either the song isn't there or it's the production. It's all underwhelming to me in comparison to Chairlift. I feel like a 16 year old girl. Gonna get a poster over my bed and write 'Mike loves ?' on my notebook. I heart chairlift.

  

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23. "i think your enthusiasm is well-founded."
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Fri Jun-01-12 01:10 AM by ninjitsu

  

          

chairlift really are that good.

what do you think of bear in heaven?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITaMHcTWXOU

also

new look
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrqIxnLWegk&feature=related

  

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29. "great track but wrong nite jewel appreciation moment"
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though I'm hooked on that album.

it's this one (as far as recent shtuff)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejh3dkmldck

or she's watching you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WUKK5f1iu4

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24. "so is your momma"
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and that is why a test tube reject like you was born lame brain turkey.

keep talking trash.

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25. "you talk like you're homeless."
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27. "i talk like a Pimp and got phat pockets turkey."
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fresh threads and cool as a 7 up with or without the ice

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30. "sure you do."
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34. "Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!"
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GET EM!!!!!

  

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35. "Pay him no mind Brother Maxxx. He ain't worth your time."
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36. "You are very ugly."
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There's no reason why we have to see your face.

Also....Justin and Maxx may be bickering uselessly here....but they both represent perspectives that value songwriting on this board. Not many others like that here. I would hope that some common ground could be found.

  

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37. "let's hear it for the carpenters huh they were good"
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