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"Curren$y suing Dame (swipe)"


          

Guess we now know why Spitta didn't acknowledge Muscle Car Chronicles'
release.

Im expecting a Jay-CurrenSy collabo any day now...



http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.19138/title.curreny-sues-damon-dash-for-releasing-albums-without-permission

Curren$y claims that Damon Dash released two of his LPs without his consent, demanding $1.5 million in damages.

Curren$y has sued Damon Dash for releasing two of his albums without permission.

According to TMZ, Spitta and Dame attempted to negotiate a deal to release music via DD172 in 2010, but the deal never went through. Dash released two of his albums that year, but failed to execute a contract. Curren$y then signed with Warner Bros. last year.

But after Curren$y signed with WBR, Dash continued to release his music, despite the fact that Spitta's new label had exclusive rights to his music. Curren$y is suing Dash for $1.5 million in damages and demands that he stop profiting off of him in any way.

Dash has already filed a response to the suit, claiming that he has the legal right to release his albums and was given permission. He
also states that Curren$y screwed him over by ignoring their agreement and instead signing with WBR. A judge is yet to rule on the matter.

HipHopDX will keep you updated as more information comes to light.

  

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damn dame.
Mar 25th 2012
1
C$ is pretty foolish if he was releasing music w/o paperwork in place
Mar 25th 2012
2
What happened w/ Terry Kennedy?
Mar 25th 2012
4
C$ started the Fly Society brand/label
Mar 25th 2012
5
      Thanks n/m
Mar 25th 2012
12
      I guess that line from King Kong was a subtle dis..
Mar 25th 2012
13
I'm thinking this is why Mos didn't appear on Ski Beats album
Mar 26th 2012
23
Hope this doesn't prohibit more Ski-Spitta collabs
Mar 25th 2012
3
Curren$y says they're still cool
Mar 25th 2012
6
      RE: Curren$y says they're still cool
Mar 29th 2012
27
Without getting into specifics, this is just scratching the surface...
Mar 25th 2012
7
RE: Without getting into specifics, this is just scratching the surface....
Mar 25th 2012
8
What's this all about?
Mar 25th 2012
11
remember few yrs back when all the cool rappers
Mar 25th 2012
9
He should also be suing for having to put...
Mar 26th 2012
14
      she A&R'd that project
Mar 30th 2012
32
           Im sure she's a cool person
Mar 30th 2012
33
           RE: she A&R'd that project
Mar 31st 2012
37
this seems like a wbr/wmg move more than curren$y
Mar 25th 2012
10
Ya good chance Warner has been in his ear about this
Mar 26th 2012
18
Where'd he get $1.5 mil from?
Mar 26th 2012
15
Dude basically admitted he didn't have any contract
Mar 26th 2012
16
LOL. this ngh
Mar 26th 2012
17
dumbest business move ever... He just gave away 10%
Mar 26th 2012
24
Aww @ this:
Mar 26th 2012
26
no contract or not u can't release his music
Mar 30th 2012
29
Really gotta wonder about Dame....
Mar 26th 2012
19
Dame Dash burnt too many bridges back in the day
Mar 26th 2012
20
      ^
Mar 26th 2012
21
      RE: Dame Dash burnt too many bridges back in the day
Mar 26th 2012
22
      dont forget the black keys
Mar 26th 2012
25
      RE: Dame Dash burnt too many bridges back in the day
Mar 29th 2012
28
           speak more ...
Mar 30th 2012
30
                RE: speak more ...
Mar 31st 2012
36
                     one off deal I hope.
Mar 31st 2012
40
Great Combat Jack piece on Dame (swipe)
Mar 30th 2012
31
at first i was like
Mar 31st 2012
34
I remember him telling this story on Hype Men.
Mar 31st 2012
35
nice read
Mar 31st 2012
38
good read. lol @ foxy brown saving Jayz career
Mar 31st 2012
39

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1. "damn dame."
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2. "C$ is pretty foolish if he was releasing music w/o paperwork in place"
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and given past interviews he gave around the time when him and Dame first linked up that seems to be the case. you figured he would've wised up after the Terry Kennedy/Fly Society fiasco, business savy doesn't seem to be a strong suit

  

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4. "What happened w/ Terry Kennedy?"
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I usually stay away from the label drama of any artist.
But I always wondered why they weren't working together
anymore.

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5. "C$ started the Fly Society brand/label"
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then hooked up with TK to set up shop out west, then TK went and copyrighted the name behind his back because C$ never had anything offical. that's why it went from Fly Society/FS Jets to Jet Life.

  

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12. "Thanks n/m"
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13. "I guess that line from King Kong was a subtle dis.."
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"Founder of a flyer society"

  

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23. "I'm thinking this is why Mos didn't appear on Ski Beats album"
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3. "Hope this doesn't prohibit more Ski-Spitta collabs"
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6. "Curren$y says they're still cool"
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"I may curse, I may have a bad mouth, whatever whatever. I'm not that bad, yaknow'mean. Bad to y'all, I dunno how y'all... I don't give a fuck. Um, I'm a good person at heart, for real and shit.

  

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27. "RE: Curren$y says they're still cool"
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cool does not collabs make...think about why mos, jay, currensy, wiz, etc messed with ski and then didnt..oh yea dame

  

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7. "Without getting into specifics, this is just scratching the surface..."
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8. "RE: Without getting into specifics, this is just scratching the surface...."
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you can't say that without elaborating more, and obvious hints. Come on man!

  

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11. "What's this all about?"
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9. "remember few yrs back when all the cool rappers"
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were fucking with Dame and Ski at their collective thing?
Sigh.


"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

  

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14. "He should also be suing for having to put..."
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McKenzie Eddy on Pilot Talk 2.

  

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32. "she A&R'd that project"
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and her and Spitta are straight

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33. "Im sure she's a cool person"
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but her singing...

  

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37. "RE: she A&R'd that project"
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lololololol define A&R

  

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10. "this seems like a wbr/wmg move more than curren$y"
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something has to be said when dame gave curren$y a chain.
curren$y is getting show money and probably not tripping off of "muscle car chronicles"
that's the label probably doing what the lawyers suggested them to do, which is all business
if anything i'll wait to see if curren$y actually addresses it. doesn't seem like his style

  

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18. "Ya good chance Warner has been in his ear about this"
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I'm mean, PT1 $ 2 were released in 2010. Surely he made money off those, so interesting that this is happening now.

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15. "Where'd he get $1.5 mil from?"
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His albums aren't money like that. If he does get that amount it'll be the greatest thing that ever happen to him financially.

  

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16. "Dude basically admitted he didn't have any contract"
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SMH at people not getting their business right, and then when jerked, crying foul. From a known paperwork offender, mind you.

From 2 years ago...

http://www.xxlmag.com/features/2010/03/curreny-my-sophomore-year/comment-page-2/

XXLMag.com: What exactly is your situation with Dame? Is there a contract involved?

Curren$y: Honestly, I don’t know outside of me how the business is run, as far as DD172, but me and dude, there is no physical, no black or white, nothing on no paper. It’s just understood, nothing had to be said, so it’s been all good. That’s the same situation I tried to have anywhere I was. It’s never been no confusion, I always wanted to be on the real nigga standards: If I fuck with you, I fuck with you. So we got that understanding. I have companies, he has companies and I gave him percentages and shit. Like I got Jets International, I got this line I’m about to do with New Era and shit and he got like 10 percent of that shit. It’s just some homeboy shit. It’s crazy because it’s like I known him forever, but I haven’t. I’ve only known him for exactly how long you’ve seen me around him. But it’s just like it was understood. We both been through a zillion fuckin’ bumps and bruises in this game. At this point, it’s like fuck that shit, we just hustlin’.

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17. "LOL. this ngh"
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go in at it with no condom

when will nghs learn that a contract IS keeping it 100.

  

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24. "dumbest business move ever... He just gave away 10%"
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because he fuck w/ him... nigga what???

where they do that at?

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26. "Aww @ this:"
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>That’s the same situation I tried to have anywhere I was

I'm surer that's how you acquire a zillion bumps & bruises. Imagine that "homeboy" shit with Baby or Diddy.

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29. "no contract or not u can't release his music"
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just because Dame recorded it doesn't mean Dame owned it and had the right to sell it.

yeah it was stupid to go into that situation without a contract knowing that Dame was gonna be selling the records but that doesn't mean u can sell the records. its not a free for all. if they were let out for free on the internet thats a total different thing.

  

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19. "Really gotta wonder about Dame...."
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I read the quote above, and I know there wasn't an 'agreement', so not saying it's all Dame's fault...but...
It seemed like for a time the DD172 thing was going to be really good. However, Mos Def had issue with 24HKS and his tracks got dropped, Stalley went with MMG, DZA stepped, Jay Electronica (well never mind... ha!).
Just seemed like more great stuff could have come from that, but it's mostly fallen apart.

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20. "Dame Dash burnt too many bridges back in the day"
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He was bad cop to Jay's good, and people in the music business seem to have long memories about shit like that, and in his case, almost seem to relish his fall from grace.

Now, if Dame had a sure fire star in his pocket, labels would fuck with him, but he doesn't (none of those guys you listed are), so they don't.

I also don't buy, for one second, his latest movement. His whole "I'm just about music, I don't care about money" steez. Nope, not falling for that okey dokey.

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21. "^"
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shakin your block with a 6 million dollar bop

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22. "RE: Dame Dash burnt too many bridges back in the day"
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He tried to pull the same shit with Mos. Mos is doing tracks, no paperwork, but gentleman's agreement that shit will be worked out before anything drops.



Then Dame just starts dropping shit left and right.

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25. "dont forget the black keys"
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28. "RE: Dame Dash burnt too many bridges back in the day"
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I think he may enjoy burning bridges...it's not like he's stopped

  

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30. "speak more ..."
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... I hope MURS name doesn't come up in that conversation.

  

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36. "RE: speak more ..."
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Murs knew what he was getting into

  

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40. "one off deal I hope."
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31. "Great Combat Jack piece on Dame (swipe)"
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http://dailymath.ihiphop.com/weblog/?p=68

Damon Dash. I repped him from 1991 – 1997. My most difficult client ever. There’s a lot of shit I can write about dude, but because of client/attorney privilege, I’m legally precluded from doing so. He started out as a manager with his cousin, Darien Dash. Another effin “winner”. Brilliant dudes though. Both in their teens. They came in the music game with two acts, “Original Flavor” and “The Future Sound”. Upon the Dash’s first shot, they landed both those acts deals with the now defunct East/West Records, a part of the Atlantic record family. The Dash’s must’ve netted over 150k for those deals. Imagine sitting on at least 50 – 75 k in your pocket, in your teens, in the music game. And not as an artist, but as managers, executives.

One of the best things that came outta me effin with Dame was him introducing me to fellow Brooklynite DJ/ Producer/ Sneaker God Clark Kent. Clark remains one of my closest friends from the music game today. Clark was A&R at East/West and gave the Dash’s the co-sign. He also came to the table with the then unknown artist Jay-Z, introducing Jay to Dame. Even tried to sign him to East/West, but back then NO ONE was feeling Jay, not even Clark’s then boss, Sylvia Rhone. Clark did manage to squeeze Jay a cameo on Original Flavor’s first single, “Can I Get Open”. That shit right there rocked and it felt great to bang a single that I was proudly associated with. Jay did murder them on they own shit though.



A coupla years passed, Original Flavor and The Future Sound came and went. So did the cash. The IRS came knocking and hard. Dame’s accountant kinda eff’d up, didn’t give the teens the proper financial advice and guidance they needed. Niggas had to turn in the Pathfinder jeeps they were so proudly rocking throughout NYC. Clark and Dame went into overdrive to get Jay-Z a deal. They had me up in all types of meetings, selling, pushing, damn near begging the record execs to give Jay a deal. Nada. One exec even told me “why the fuck should I sign Jay-Z, I have Black Sheep on our roster, Jay ain’t fucking with them”. Shit was rough on the cousins Dash. Eventually Darien, who had just graduated from college, caught on to the whole digital revolution. Saw the internet coming from miles away. Started a dot com start up company called Digital Mafia. Made a shit load of money even. One thing the cousins always had was mad smarts on their side. Brilliant.

Dame started borrowing a coupla dollars from me. Not that he needed it, but as he explained it, “there was no way niggas Uptown is EVER gonna see me walking out the subway. I’m too fresh for that. Niggas need to stay seeing me stepping outta cabs. Fuck that plebe shit.” So I lent him money for cab fare. Thought he was being x-tra, still, had to admire that sense of pride. Shit like that kinda ensures your financial success. That, and/or financial demise. He was also going through mad baby momma drama at the time with the mother of his first son Boogie. Shit was so bad, he even got into a physical fight with her father, brother and uncle. At the same time. From what I remember, he knocked all three of them out and on they asses during that same encounter. I think I even remember them pressing charges against Damon for the ass whuppin. Funny shit. We laughed loudly behind that one.

Shit looked dire for the team. You heard it right there on the song. West Coast blew up, Nas stunned the world with “Illmatic”, Puff and Bad Boy started killing it here in New York with that “Big Mack” one two punch (Craig Mack’s “Flavor In Your Ear” and Biggie Smalls set up the momentum for Bad Boy Records forever and just right). I soon started repping Jaz-O who was an extended member of the original “Team Roc”. Biggs wasn’t yet down. Jay, Dame, Clark, them kniccas went in. Like 24/7, they was producing records left and right outta Clark’s crib, on Carroll Street, in Crown Heights, Brooklyn. We also had Ski Beatz producing fiyah as well. Ski was a member and the sound behind Original Flavor. Between him and Clark, Jay was swimming in a pool of beats to sharpen his rhyme play. Jay soon began evolving, slowing down his rapid fire tempo, stretching out his words, dumbing down his delivery to a point where shit sounded simple to the casual listener, but somehow would stuff so many layers upon layers of metaphors and double, triple, quadruple entendres in his shit, so much so that it still takes years for me to catch the full meaning of shit he dropped back in ‘96, ‘97, ‘98. Hard times and financial pressure made him forge his skills into the sharpest of blades.

Damon kept that whole shit together though. Never lost sight, never gave in a bit. Eventually he landed a measly ass deal with a small label, Pay Day Records. Deal was like less than 30k. Still, Dame took it, they was the only label on the block biting. They released Jay’s first single ever, “In My Lifetime”. A dope laid back underground New York state of mind record. Sold wood. Pay Day dropped Jay and Dame shortly after. By then they had hooked up with Biggs. They pooled their collective monies and decided to swing for the fences.



Niggas had me working overtime as well, doing producer agreements night after night with Ski, Clark, Jaz-O, Preemo. They actually went in and produced the majority of “Reasonable Doubt” on their own, on the strength of relationships and hard cash. Because Dame “dated” Mary J. Blige briefly, right before she blew up, she did him a solid and dropped her cameo on “Can’t Knock The Hustle”. Jay’s relationship with B.I.G. and Clark’s relationship with Puff resulted in “Brooklyn’s Finest”. Dope shit was being cooked up, just didn’t see where that shit was going. Eventually, we landed a modest label deal with Moon Roof, a label under Priority. No lie, that was a bullshit deal. But the only one we could find at the time. The album was solid no doubt, but was missing that one joint, that one commercial single that would push that album from being ai’ight to becoming certified classic status.

Boom! Clark’s baby cousin Inga Marchand, p/k/a “Foxy Brown” made some noise and started a bidding war between Def Jam, Bad Boy, Elektra and a bunch of other labels. On the strength, they snatched her yung ass up for what would end up being the monster single “Ain’t No Nigga”. Damon played that single for me in his new offices, then located in the Wall Street area. Nigga was doing that goofy “Dame dance” with the mock dice roll even then. That record was a monster!!! Inga single handedly, in my opinion, saved Jay-Z’s career. Without her on that record, and Reasonable Doubt being Jay’s last shot, the world at large might have never heard of Shawn Carter. (Niggas don’t really put 2 and 2 together, realizing that Jay had been trying to get on since like 1987, ‘88, damn near close to 10 years before Reasonable Doubt!!!)



Reasonable Doubt dropped and sold gold out the gate. 500,000 units. Priority never expected that. Owed Dame $1,000,000.00 but couldn’t, wouldn’t pay up. Enter Irv Gotti, who snatched up the “Ain’t No Nigga” single for the “Nutty Professor” soundtrack. That led to Roc-a-fella eventually landing at Def Jam. The rest, as they say, is history. Let me set the record straight, here, and once and for all. Without Dame, there would be no Jay-Z. I know it. I said it. And I said it here.

I write this all to say that as brilliant as Damon Dash is, his strongest suit, the thing that made him so extremely successful is that the man is one of the world’s biggest assholes. Always was. I guess it’s a good thing that dude never changed once he made money. I credit him for definitely taking great care of his artists and his peoples, but if you weren’t on what he considered to be his team, he would be incredibly disrespectful. Burned a lotta bridges too. Too many. I once argued with him on just that, on how I felt he was hurting us, hurting himself by burning too many bridges unnecessarily. Told me he didn’t need any bridges to blow up, to make paper. Cool. Confidence is one thing, arrogance is another, and Dame had arrogance in abundance. Throughout my years of association with him, I’ve seen him shit on so many people. So. many. people. Not that the music industry is full of saints, that business breeds dicks by the bundles , but when it comes to assholes, Dame remains king.

So now the media is clowning dude for supposedly being broke, for going through a divorce with his wife. I would never pray for that type of public humiliation on anyone, anywhere. Humiliation in spades. However, I confess, when it comes to Damon Dash, I set my watch like 13 years ago, waiting to see when shit like this would happen to him. Not outta hate though, not outta jealousy even, shit I owe dude for helping me in building my business, in helping me to establish a solid reputation in the game, in becoming the person that I am today. The reason I set my watch is because I’ve seen him humiliate and disgrace so many people, throw so many souls under the proverbial bus that even then, I knew that the shit he’s publicly suffering through now was coming, inevitable, only a matter of time. I seen it coming years ago. Only because karma can be a mean bitch, and she is mos def getting it in on dude.

If I were a betting man, after all this shit dies down, and the papers and websites and blogs have had their way with him, I’d say that outta them all, Damon Dash might just could come back and land on top again. He’s brilliant like that, and being an asshole is his strongest suit. But before that time comes, there’s a whole lotta hell for him to pay. And in this lifetime.

  

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34. "at first i was like"
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this is a diss and than those last 3 paragraphs appeared. ouch

  

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35. "I remember him telling this story on Hype Men."
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38. "nice read"
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thanks for sharing

  

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39. "good read. lol @ foxy brown saving Jayz career"
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that single was a monster tho

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