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Nodima
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"patrick stump post part 2: we liked you better fat"


  

          

http://www.patrickstump.com/post/18474641989/we-liked-you-better-fat-confessions-of-a-pariah

http://www.popmatters.com/pm/feature/155400-in-defense-of-patrick-stump/

interesting look into the thoughts of an artist who had his fans turn on him for trying something new before he even turned 30. granted it's through the siphon of a man who wrote songs with lyrics like "The best way to make it through/with hearts and wrists intact/Is to realize/Two outta three ain’t bad, ain’t bad", so some magazines and bloggers think it's tone is a little suicidal, but I think he's just being honest.

"It’s as though I’ve received some big cosmic sign that says I should disappear. So I’ve kind of disappeared. I know a lot of you have wondered where I’ve been. I’m sure others of you are disappointed to hear I’m still kicking around somewhere (kidding…sort of). But the truth is wherever and whoever I am, whoever I am whenever I release whatever release is my next, whoever said recording is recorded with: I will never be the kid from Take This To Your Grave again. And I’m deeply sorry that I can’t be, I truly am (no irony, no sarcasm). I hate waking up every morning knowing I’m disappointing so many people. I hate feeling like the awkward adult husk of a discarded once-cute child actor. I’m debating going back to school and learning a proper trade. It’s tempting to say I won’t ever play/tour/record again, but I think that’s probably just pent up poor-me emotional pessimism talking (I suppose can be excused of that though right? I am the guy from That Emo Band after all)."

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"This is the streets, and I am the trap." © Jay Bilas

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Subject Author Message Date ID
whoa
Mar 02nd 2012
1
It's almost like people only idolize folks so they can tear them down.
Mar 02nd 2012
2
I thought that paragraph quoted in the defense would hit close to you
Mar 02nd 2012
10
People pay for the spectacle. They want to be there when "it" happens.
Mar 02nd 2012
11
Damn, that's terrible
Mar 02nd 2012
3
That defense reminds me of what I've missed in writing about music.
Mar 02nd 2012
4
*bookmarks to read later*
Mar 02nd 2012
5
wait...did fall out boy break up? i liked those guys nm
Mar 02nd 2012
6
wait this fool put out a R&B record?!
Mar 02nd 2012
7
yep. and it's dope.
Mar 02nd 2012
8
yep it was a good record
Nov 15th 2012
14
his ep on Live From Daryl Halls House
Mar 02nd 2012
9
boy you're gonna carry that weight a long time
Nov 15th 2012
12
lol
Nov 15th 2012
13
i didn't (need to) click this, but for the fans
Feb 04th 2013
15
two chaaaainz
Feb 07th 2013
16
      o_O
Feb 07th 2013
17
      it was a smart move not to appear in the video.
Feb 08th 2013
18
           that's not them at the end?
Feb 08th 2013
19
                RE: that's not them at the end?
Feb 08th 2013
20

Dr Claw
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1. "whoa"
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after Joe Corn Mo's post I actually respected what this dude had done with his career... even if I wasn't there from the beginning.

  

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Joe Corn Mo
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Fri Mar-02-12 06:39 AM

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2. "It's almost like people only idolize folks so they can tear them down."
In response to Reply # 0
Fri Mar-02-12 06:39 AM by Joe Corn Mo

  

          

why would somebody pay for a ticket
to go to a concert they don't want to see?


why would somebody go out that far of their way
to trash somebody?


That broke my heart for all kinds of reasons.
God, I hate people.



>http://www.patrickstump.com/post/18474641989/we-liked-you-better-fat-confessions-of-a-pariah
>
>http://www.popmatters.com/pm/feature/155400-in-defense-of-patrick-stump/
>
>interesting look into the thoughts of an artist who had his
>fans turn on him for trying something new before he even
>turned 30. granted it's through the siphon of a man who wrote
>songs with lyrics like "The best way to make it through/with
>hearts and wrists intact/Is to realize/Two outta three ain’t
>bad, ain’t bad", so some magazines and bloggers think it's
>tone is a little suicidal, but I think he's just being
>honest.
>
>"It’s as though I’ve received some big cosmic sign that says I
>should disappear. So I’ve kind of disappeared. I know a lot of
>you have wondered where I’ve been. I’m sure others of you are
>disappointed to hear I’m still kicking around somewhere
>(kidding…sort of). But the truth is wherever and whoever I am,
>whoever I am whenever I release whatever release is my next,
>whoever said recording is recorded with: I will never be the
>kid from Take This To Your Grave again. And I’m deeply sorry
>that I can’t be, I truly am (no irony, no sarcasm). I hate
>waking up every morning knowing I’m disappointing so many
>people. I hate feeling like the awkward adult husk of a
>discarded once-cute child actor. I’m debating going back to
>school and learning a proper trade. It’s tempting to say I
>won’t ever play/tour/record again, but I think that’s probably
>just pent up poor-me emotional pessimism talking (I suppose
>can be excused of that though right? I am the guy from That
>Emo Band after all)."
>
>~~~~~~~~~
>"This is the streets, and I am the trap." © Jay Bilas
>
>http://www.last.fm/user/NodimaChee
>http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
>http://rateyourmusic.com/list/Nodima/run_that_shit__nodimas_hip_hop_handbook

  

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Nodima
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10. "I thought that paragraph quoted in the defense would hit close to you"
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"What I wasn’t prepared for was the fervor of the hate from people who were ostensibly my own supporters (or at least supporters of something I had been part of). The barrage of ‘We liked you better fat,’ the threatening letters to my home, the kids that paid for tickets to my solo shows to tell me how much I sucked without Fall Out Boy, that wasn’t something I suppose I was or ever will be ready for. That’s dedication.”

really weird.

~~~~~~~~~
"This is the streets, and I am the trap." © Jay Bilas

http://www.last.fm/user/NodimaChee
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/Nodima/run_that_shit__nodimas_hip_hop_handbook

  

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micMajestic
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11. "People pay for the spectacle. They want to be there when "it" happens."
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Fri Mar-02-12 01:00 PM by micMajestic

          

"It" could be musical magic, "it" could be utter chaos. They want to see the artist at his highest, they want to see the artist at his lowest of lows. They pay to gawk, they get their entertainment either way.
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Boogie Stimuli
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3. "Damn, that's terrible"
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I'm sure what he's going through is quite frustrating
but it does sound very "woe is me" with lines like
"I hate waking up knowing that I'm disappointing so many people"

It's like
c'mon dude.. snap out of it


Supposedly, "What A Catch, Donnie" was written for a friend
now, ironically, it sounds like it's written about himself
"I've got troubled thoughts and the self-esteem to match"



Anyway
I wish dude the best whatever he does
If he loves music, he'll keep making it no matter what
If what he loves is having people validate his art
then he just might quit
Either way, it's his life

  

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Dr Claw
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4. "That defense reminds me of what I've missed in writing about music."
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And that was a great story, well-written.

  

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5. "*bookmarks to read later*"
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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Binlahab
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6. "wait...did fall out boy break up? i liked those guys nm"
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do or die

  

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Binlahab
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7. "wait this fool put out a R&B record?!"
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wtf was i?!


do or die

  

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Joe Corn Mo
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8. "yep. and it's dope."
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2665011&mesg_id=2665011&listing_type=search

  

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Menphyel7
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14. "yep it was a good record "
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he really was the genius behind fall out boy ...that other dude just had the look and wrote down shit in his diaries and Patrick would take words from it and make the music and a song outta it

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"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

  

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9. "his ep on Live From Daryl Halls House"
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http://www.livefromdarylshouse.com/currentep.html?ep_id=20



On the dock of that bay serving a life sentence,even if I’m going to hell I’m gonna make an entrance

  

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howisya
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12. "boy you're gonna carry that weight a long time"
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"that's paul sang that."

  

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13. "lol"
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http://twitter.com/Menphyel7


"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

  

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howisya
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15. "i didn't (need to) click this, but for the fans"
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http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1701294/fall-out-boy-reunion-tour.jhtml - they liked him better fat

  

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howisya
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16. "two chaaaainz"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsfY8iFbYjE

  

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17. "o_O"
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horrendous shit

  

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Joe Corn Mo
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18. "it was a smart move not to appear in the video."
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i thought the song was okay.
then again, i'm not to be trusted on this issue.

i can't be objective.

  

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howisya
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19. "that's not them at the end?"
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(no spoiler)

i actually like the way the video was shot even if it's mind numbingly simple


>then again, i'm not to be trusted on this issue.
>
>i can't be objective.

as a fan, do you expect any of the more soulful, eclectic side he's shown solo to make it on a new FOB album? especially one called 'save rock 'n' roll'?

oh, and do you like the song he did with the roots, "birthday girl"? (you weren't a member when there was a big fuss around here about it)

  

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Joe Corn Mo
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20. "RE: that's not them at the end?"
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the clip i saw never revealed their faces. maybe the video was clipped.
i assumed it was them, though.

>(no spoiler)
>
>i actually like the way the video was shot even if it's mind
>numbingly simple
>
>
>>then again, i'm not to be trusted on this issue.
>>
>>i can't be objective.
>
>as a fan, do you expect any of the more soulful, eclectic side
>he's shown solo to make it on a new FOB album? especially one
>called 'save rock 'n' roll'?
>

i don't really have any expectations for the album.
i hope it's good. i hope it sells. but i don't know what it might sound like.
i doubt it will sound like "soul punk" though.





>oh, and do you like the song he did with the roots, "birthday
>girl"? (you weren't a member when there was a big fuss around
>here about it)


i have to go back and listen to it again. i am pretty sure i've heard it
but i don't remember it.

  

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