No Jay-Z on "Something From Nothing: The Art Of Rap" by Ice T. Word is Ice T's film got a lot of love at the screening.

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.18588/title.ice-t-reacts-to-getting-his-documentary-placed-at-the-sundance-film-festival

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O1wIQNaN9w

So, the word is all the big name MC's (Nas & Kanye included) took part in this film but Jay-Z declined. They say that all of the legends were happy to be interviewed by Ice T and share so many perspectives on Hip hop (Chuck D talked about this on Twitter a weeks or so ago and was talking about Jay-Z not being part of this was like a NBA History joint and Jordan declining interview)

Why do you think Jigga declined? Do you feel that he thinks that he is above this type of thing at this point? Does the think he is bigger than Hip Hop? (Of course I can't wait to see it regardless and not mad at Jay-Z either way b/c that was his choice)

I'm just curious to your thoughts people... peace

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>Does the
>think he is bigger than Hip Hop? (Of course I can't wait to
>see it regardless and not mad at Jay-Z either way b/c that was
>his choice)

The problem with Jay-Z is that he's so concerned with pushing his brand deeper in the mainstream that anything under the radar is a waste of his time.

If it was a documentary by Scorcese he would have returned those phone calls. Hell, now it's in Sundance he will probably try to get in on future edits, lol.

>>Does the
>>think he is bigger than Hip Hop? (Of course I can't wait to
>>see it regardless and not mad at Jay-Z either way b/c that
>was
>>his choice)
>
>The problem with Jay-Z is that he's so concerned with pushing
>his brand deeper in the mainstream that anything under the
>radar is a waste of his time.
>
>If it was a documentary by Scorcese he would have returned
>those phone calls. Hell, now it's in Sundance he will
>probably try to get in on future edits, lol.


Game^^^^^^^

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

lol...(loaded line) but yeah I feel your opinion.

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>lol...(loaded line) but yeah I feel your opinion.

because it be nice to get a perspective from him on hip-hop that isn't concerned with the classic hip-hop mythos 'young drug dealer, memorizing rhymes on the corner, yada yada yada' he's been pushing.

Like it be nice of him to honestly talk about the shenanigans that took place in the studio during the recording of various albums...the impetus to resurrect the dis track, why he supposedly hates Cam, etc.

It's unfortunate that one of the bigger stars of the era is going to have a history that could get summed up in a wikipedia page.

That's what I'm saying....that was my point doing this thread...thanks bruh

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Sometimes it feels like Jay-Z is no longer "ours" (rap music).

Not hating or anything, just an observation.

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"I may curse, I may have a bad mouth, whatever whatever. I'm not that bad, yaknow'mean. Bad to y'all, I dunno how y'all... I don't give a fuck. Um, I'm a good person at heart, for real and shit.

>Sometimes it feels like Jay-Z is no longer "ours" (rap
>music).
>
>Not hating or anything, just an observation.
'hears the footsteps' and is afraid to lose the empire.

It's why he will never hit Tupac or even Biggie levels of adoration; he doesn't allow a connection to his audience. He's got diehard fans...people who love the fun club bangers...music nerds that appreciate the technicality of his music. But if he died tomorrow watch how quickly we would manage to forget him, despite being such a trailblazer.

>>But if he died tomorrow watch how quickly we would
>manage to forget him, despite being such a trailblazer.

I meant you aren't gonna see Jay-Z in heaven murals or people converting a building to a tribute to him in Brooklyn.

What the man has attained is awe-inspiring...the problem is that he doesn't come off awe inspiring since he comes off so cold, lol.

Yep, I agree. Dude sums it up in his response.

"Highly developed spirits often encounter resistance from mediocre minds."-Albert Einstein

http://twitter.com/#!/TonyHanesPoetry

>
>If it was a documentary by Scorcese he would have returned
>those phone calls. Hell, now it's in Sundance he will
>probably try to get in on future edits, lol.

but i woulda loved to have been a part of this.

guess i got "nobodied" the same way hov nobodied them.

NO! LIST
Tom Petty
M J
Zeppelin
Springsteen
Neil Young
Eagles
Ray Charles
Madonna
Chuck Berry
South Park TV Songs
Justin Timberlake
"Food Glorious Food"
"Twilight Zone" theme
"A Boy Named Sue"
"Night Moves"
"The Situation"
"Superbowl Shuffle"

They're lose big time. B/c you, KRS-One and Bun B are the best interviews in hip hop. Can fit so much information and tell such great stories

Who is 15 and Tiger in terms of Hip Hop? DJ's or MC's (producers) Just curious as you all know each other and you said something about good interviews they do. I would like to check them out....just FYI

"Highly developed spirits often encounter resistance from mediocre minds."-Albert Einstein

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>Who is 15 and Tiger in terms of Hip Hop? DJ's or MC's
>(producers) Just curious as you all know each other and you
>said something about good interviews they do. I would like to
>check them out....just FYI

15 is exactly what/who his avatar would lead you to believe he is.

Tiger.. I dunno. Dunno.

oh cool...I feel you

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He already has/had one..
And has appeared in more than few more..
And has his own book.

This movie will be good and really doesn't need him, IMO.

It's not like the guy is UNSUNG or underrepresented in the media or anything. LOL.

when i read the original post.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

Jay is a "Cold Analysis" mofo. He can see repercusions of certain things.
Lemme explain : Jay did not want to be "On Record" saying things he did not control the outcome of.
If he says something on his own album, he has a promotional tour to "play" with the media and rectify/control THE message.

This Ice-T Movie/Doc is an "Indie movie". If it was a major studio release, Jay can call a big wig at the studio and ask them to "edit" the final piece.( And you're asking yourself how can he do it ?)

I don't know the extent of your familiarity with Ice-T hip-hop catalog.But, if you are famialiar with ICE-T catalogue,then you know this next song : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bicN4ryVQSI

Okay , see a whole lot of young people think Jay-Z "99 Problems" is an original song.



"And I love 'em all, I love 'em crazily
And they love me back - that's why they stay with me
So if you havin girl problems, I'll be there for you son
I got 99 problems and a bitch ain't one - hit me..."

So it would have been wrong to include him in there in the first place.

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Not sure what you mean fam. Hov is still Hip Hop even if he think that he is above stuff like this now. He isnt hip hop in the Chuck D kind of way (talking about the culture on a regular basis) but the music still is rap/hip hop...

"Highly developed spirits often encounter resistance from mediocre minds."-Albert Einstein

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You have to realise that Jay-Z has moved beyond being a rapper. He's a pop star now really.

Watch how quickly this post will devolve into a "Jay-Z is wack" slug fest. He's effectively outside what many hiphop heads would consider hiphop.

I suspect in a small way he feels the same.

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I feel you...

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it's doubtful that anyone here (apart from the obvious) is privy to the situation or parties involved, or has enough info to give an educated opinion.

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>it's doubtful that anyone here (apart from the obvious) is
>privy to the situation or parties involved, or has enough info
>to give an educated opinion.

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