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Ryan M
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"The Moment Battle DJing Changed Forever."


  

          

The dude isn't my favorite DJ. Not by a long shot.

But THIS routine right here?

Nobody ever had this level of swag, technique, and the all around package that makes for a battle DJ. Not the best DJ, not the best 'turntablist', but goddamnit...he is the best battle DJ. Hands down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SEAfl_Fh04

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yeah, definitely have to agree dude...
Jan 26th 2012
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I think it plateaued shortly after Craze.
Jan 27th 2012
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FUCK!!
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100% agreed.
Jan 27th 2012
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nice
Jan 27th 2012
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RE: The Moment Battle DJing Changed Forever.
Jan 27th 2012
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He truly did change the game.
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ridiculous
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Fucking amazing
Jan 27th 2012
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Indisputable
Jan 27th 2012
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Holy Balls!
Jan 27th 2012
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go back to the early 90s DMCs...
Jan 27th 2012
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Sorry to up this, but been thinking a lot about it lately.
Mar 05th 2013
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I'm not into it much. I feel like certain things made it way more exciti...
Mar 05th 2013
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RE: Sorry to up this, but been thinking a lot about it lately.
Mar 06th 2013
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Yeah That Was A Decent Routine
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what set him apart from others at the time was the D&B
Mar 06th 2013
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who was that DJ that drank a 40 while scratching
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The girl ur talking abt is Pam the Funktress
Mar 06th 2013
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To me it was the Invisibl Skratch Piklz vs. Klamz uv Deth (x-men) routin...
Mar 06th 2013
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I agree with this
Mar 07th 2013
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      I got the vinyl before I saw the routine so it really confused the shit
Mar 07th 2013
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when I saw this new(er) routine Craze did I was happy he still had it
Mar 06th 2013
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ehhh
Mar 07th 2013
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It's dope but I don't know
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1. "yeah, definitely have to agree dude..."
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he kills it every time.

  

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Ryan M
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2. "I think it plateaued shortly after Craze."
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He rode the perfect line of battle swag and technical ability.

As much as I love guys like Shortkut, he never had that 'Fuck you, I'm winning' type of attitude in battles.

Then it got too...techy for me.

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3. "FUCK!!"
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I used to have that DMC Championship on VHS. I watched that tape religiously when I was first learning to spin.

Thinking back on it- I thought it would be inspiring to watch that when I was first learning, but really it just demoralized me.

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Ryan M
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4. "100% agreed."
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Every time I put a battle set together I was like, "I suck, man."

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5. "nice"
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i was just watching some of his other vids and he had the gold plated dmc 12s in what look like his home set up. i was thinking why would he rock those them i was oh yeah he got like ten of them.

  

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6. "RE: The Moment Battle DJing Changed Forever."
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naw this shit killed it!

nigga killed careers with this set
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khgy9bA_mSU&feature=related

greatest shit I have ever seen

  

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Ryan M
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7. "He truly did change the game."
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9. "ridiculous"
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8. "Fucking amazing"
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10. "Indisputable"
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Additionally, he was touring doing drum&bass sets, which was unprecedented amongst battle DJs.

DJ Craze changed the DJ game, indisputably.

  

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11. "Holy Balls! "
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This shit is amazing.

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12. "go back to the early 90s DMCs..."
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...and they're doing stuff that a lot of regular cats can do these days ...very few if any can pull off anything close to what Craze did in 98

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Ryan M
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13. "Sorry to up this, but been thinking a lot about it lately."
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What's the battle scene like these days? This was top of the pile for me personally...

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14. "I'm not into it much. I feel like certain things made it way more exciti..."
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then.

The music itself was newer, even the 80's music was closer to 1998 than 2013 is. So it feels like most battle DJ's still play the same music they were playing back in the 90's...same breaks, same 80's and 90's classiscs, along with a few from the early 2000's.

Technically, there are some who are amazing as hell, and some are even more advanced than back then. I only hate those who follow the style where there's no constant rhythm being kept. Like how Craze did it, basically everything he did made sense within rhythm...but some of these folks now do shit that's extra hard, whether it's the juggles, cuts, or other tricks, and it just doesn't sound as good.

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18. "RE: Sorry to up this, but been thinking a lot about it lately."
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A big difference now is that technology such as Serato is allowed now. This is understandable, because digital wax has become a standard in the DJ world nowadays...plus, not as much new vinyl is being pressed up by record labels these days as well.

The pros to the Serato age is that someone who is highly technical in both juggling and scratching can really do some innovative things performance wise. For example, DJ Precision (of the X-Ecutioners) instantly switching turntables to show off his ambidextrous scratching ability (2:00 mark)...and his juggle manipulation of Biggie's "Juicy" (4:47 mark) is extremely solid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0DD57bIuoE

The cons...too many DJs sound way too similar (about 75% of modern/newer DJs rely heavily on dubstep and the overall "funk" in routines has been greatly depleted). Also, the art of digging for the right records to battle with, needle dropping and even avoiding needle skipping is pretty much extinct (unless DJs choose to use traditional analog records, which that IS still allowed...DJs aren't FORCED to go digital.) Many newer DJs are lacking in overall showmanship skills as well...

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15. "Yeah That Was A Decent Routine"
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I've never seen that one, nice routine, seen better from him though.

Now this one right here by Dj Riz, still one of my favorites, too bad there wasn't a camera for this routine by him but he has done it live for a competition before but don't think anyone recorded back then; I originally heard this from a copy on cassette a friend gave me the same year and had it on rewind for months trying to copy & studying it.

"Dj Riz's 1997 dj routine on WKCR" lank: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFCu9fxsMO4

It's no X-Men or I.S.P. status but it's dope to me especially when he rocks the Das EFX & P.E. joints.


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16. "what set him apart from others at the time was the D&amp;amp;amp;B"
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Wed Mar-06-13 03:01 AM by TRENDone

  

          

he was a legit d&b DJ. Shortkut would've won that battle if his shit wasn't skipping all over the place. Ask DJ Jazzy Jeff and Z-Trip who their favorite DJ is...

as far as craze....he was like a hybrid of roc raida, noize (with his sentences), shortkut and mixmaster mike.

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17. "who was that DJ that drank a 40 while scratching"
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LOL that was the last DMC I can remember. some chick also switched the crossfader with her titties. probably 91 or something.

  

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19. "The girl ur talking abt is Pam the Funktress"
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20. "To me it was the Invisibl Skratch Piklz vs. Klamz uv Deth (x-men) routin..."
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Wed Mar-06-13 11:12 PM by T Reynolds

  

          

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4alEtaiSw5M
part 1 ^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-YlEC5C1jA
part 2 ^

I have no idea why the mc has no shirt on

PROLLY CAUSE HE'S FUCKIN RIPPED YAMEAN

nah but this crew routine is revolutionary. they even put the routine out on wax

This really changed the game

mad european dj's formed crews to do this type of shit

  

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22. "I agree with this"
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I got that vinyl too... LOL!!

But I also this is what killed it all, or at least marked the beginning of the end.

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25. "I got the vinyl before I saw the routine so it really confused the shit"
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outta me

once I saw it live I was like ooooooh

from that point on I actually could bump the record

  

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21. "when I saw this new(er) routine Craze did I was happy he still had it"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nOO-DwC3nc

he adapted very nicely

  

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23. "ehhh"
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it should but it really don't impress me even half as much.

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24. "It's dope but I don't know"
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I mean one of your main points is swag? Cause of the vocal bits at the beginning? Cause that was pretty much a standard by 98'. I mean peep A-Trak in 97 at 15 years old - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NidL7KtCO8

And that wasn't the first time someone juggled on 45' to make a dnb sounding break. I see it as being up there in solo routines but not necessarily a pivotal one.

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