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stone_phalanges
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"Gangere- vodka and ayahuaska"


  

          

This album sounds just as good as or better than the first. Sure to cop on Tuesday (and I'm broke). Good thing I was able to hear it and enjoy it to better help my decision.

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RE: Gangere- vodka and ayahuaska
Jan 21st 2012
1
RE: Gangere- vodka and ayahuaska
Jan 21st 2012
2
i'm still waiting for the instrumental version of the first one
Jan 21st 2012
3
^^^^^
Jan 21st 2012
4
I don't get why they don't package the instro w/the album.
Jan 24th 2012
I don't get why they don't package the instro w/the album.
Jan 24th 2012
10
the album is damn good
Jan 23rd 2012
5
I don't know, I think I like Gutter Water better
Oct 01st 2012
26
Neither guy can rap yet and the beats are worse than the last one.
Jan 23rd 2012
6
LIES x 2
Jan 24th 2012
12
RE: Neither guy can rap yet and the beats are worse than the last one.
Feb 05th 2012
18
      LMAO
Feb 05th 2012
19
Why am I not feeling these beats?
Jan 23rd 2012
7
cause ur ears must be broke
Jan 24th 2012
13
Somehow didn't know this was coming out
Jan 23rd 2012
8
I guess I'm the minority, but I fucking love the production on this
Jan 24th 2012
9
nope. most heads outside okayP are feelin this
Jan 25th 2012
14
Man the Dark Shades beat..... COT DAMN!
Oct 01st 2012
27
RE: Gangere- vodka and ayahuaska
Jan 24th 2012
11
RE: Gangere- vodka and ayahuaska
Jan 25th 2012
15
^^^^ for the blind buyers
Feb 04th 2012
16
shits cool for the train ride. plus I was always interested in ayahuasca
Feb 04th 2012
17
Love this shit....nm
Feb 05th 2012
20
Good to see Roc Marc is writing Alchemist's rhymes...
Feb 06th 2012
21
RE: Gangere- vodka and ayahuaska
Feb 07th 2012
22
sucks that Dream Nap is only available on iTunes
Sep 29th 2012
23
Top Instructors is the hardest beat of 2012
Sep 29th 2012
24
**rolls up in the post with a guitar and dark shades**
Oct 01st 2012
25

melanon
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1. "RE: Gangere- vodka and ayahuaska"
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refused the leak, blind first day cop.

  

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stone_phalanges
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2. "RE: Gangere- vodka and ayahuaska"
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That works too.

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Hellyeah
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3. "i'm still waiting for the instrumental version of the first one"
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4. "^^^^^"
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phemom
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Tue Jan-24-12 08:24 PM

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"I don't get why they don't package the instro w/the album."


          

Or at least sell them separate. I like Gangrene but the beats are still the star of the show on both albums. I'm guessing this is more of a ALC decision...cause I Oh No is a lot more generous w/the beats.

Now that this is out the way I'm ready for "The Professionals" & "OhNomite"

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phemom
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10. "I don't get why they don't package the instro w/the album."
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Or at least sell them separate. I like Gangrene but the beats are still the star of the show on both albums. I'm guessing this is more of a ALC decision...cause I Oh No is a lot more generous w/the beats.

Now that this is out the way I'm ready for "The Professionals" & "OhNomite"

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searching 4 journalistic fame, mindframe igniter....www.twitter.com/hayabusaage

  

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astralblak
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Mon Jan-23-12 01:53 AM

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5. "the album is damn good"
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better than Gutter Water, which was a very good album in its own right. this, GW, og EP, and the Grenberg EP with Roc have been some of the funniest bugged out original rap of the last two years.

heads really should stop sleeping

  

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26. "I don't know, I think I like Gutter Water better"
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I sampled both on iTunes and copped Gutter Water right away...

Took a few listens for me to final jump on Vodka....

Lies run sprints.
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CondoM
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6. "Neither guy can rap yet and the beats are worse than the last one."
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http://www.last.fm/user/_CondoM_/

  

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astralblak
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12. "LIES x 2"
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Black Irish
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18. "RE: Neither guy can rap yet and the beats are worse than the last one."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRFI-Xrg1XI

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The named was the mother of the myriad creatures."

Go in peace.
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19. "LMAO"
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the "yutes" of today are fucking stupid.

  

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Starks dunked on Bulls
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7. "Why am I not feeling these beats?"
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2 of my favorite producers right now too

  

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astralblak
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13. "cause ur ears must be broke"
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Ishwip
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8. "Somehow didn't know this was coming out"
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Mon Jan-23-12 02:56 PM by Ishwip

          

I liked the first one well enough, although I went into it expecting to like the beats more than I actually did. They were fine, but compared to Alchemist's stellar beats on "Covert Coup" or anything else Oh No has done the past few years, I didn't think either really brought their top stuff.

And I still find Alchemist hilarious lyrically in a way that I don't think he's aiming for.
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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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Stevie Lee
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9. "I guess I'm the minority, but I fucking love the production on this"
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I'd kill for an instrumental version...only been able to find the title track and Dump Truck so far. I was kind of hoping Decon might include a download card or some shit for the instrumentals. It's not even in the deluxe version, though.

  

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astralblak
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14. "nope. most heads outside okayP are feelin this"
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27. "Man the Dark Shades beat..... COT DAMN!"
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Lies run sprints.
Truths run marathons.

  

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stone_phalanges
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11. "RE: Gangere- vodka and ayahuaska"
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Copped

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Robinson Pearl
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15. "RE: Gangere- vodka and ayahuaska"
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Definitely worth the purchase. Plenty of tracks on this are going to be in rotation for a minute (Drink It Up, Dump Truck, Gladiator Music, the title track, etcetera).

  

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Nodima
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16. "^^^^ for the blind buyers"
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Sat Feb-04-12 05:35 PM by Nodima

  

          

I was sort of struggling to get into this album at first (like Gutter Water), but a few of the posts in this thread confirming that Alchemist is unintentionally funny as a writer for a lot of people combined with this RateYourMusic review has me starting to sing a different tune. He likes it a LOT more than I ever could but that's not really my point. The beats on this are pretty much universally great, though, I'm glad Oh No got the majority (9 vs. 5) because I felt like Gutter Water didn't feel very cohesive, but this format allows Alc to focus on his raps and the two can grab an Alchemist beat when it fits the sound.

Anyway, the RYM user (http://rateyourmusic.com/~crakpot) thoughts:

Since Ghostface recorded "Nutmeg," there's existed in hip hop a sub-culture of pimp-trick-gangsta-clique that, for, lack of a better word, I'll call Dada Thug. While, on paper, the words spat don't look particularly menacing, or even sensical, somehow when coming out of the artist's mouth (pause) they create an aura of gangster. There's a great moment in Camron's "Welcome To New York City" when he manages to make the line "Carry eight guns, two in the trunk/ Two in the waist, two in the ankle, two to just spank you/ You can jam with them jammers, blam with them blammers" incredibly believable. So if Dada Thug starts with Nutmeg and is re-tooled by Diplomats (Think Juelz Santana's infamous "Like Kurt Cobain was here"), it gets perfected by Vodka & Ayahuasca. It's 42 minutes of blissful randomness uninterrupted.

To be clear, there is nothing ironic about Dada Thug. Das Racist's hook for "Michael Jackson" is not Dada Thug. Tyler The Creator's "I'm awesome and I fuck dolphins" is not Dada Thug. DT abandons humor or pretentiousness and prefers to just bask in the glow of intricate rhyme constructions.

The thing that makes this album great is the level of consistency. For Oh No and The Alchemist, two individuals for whom the idea that they would be judged as a rapper rather than for their work behind the boards is ludicrous, to bring the weirdness they do to every track is amazing. The production is grimy and classic and bust-your-shit-open and punks-jump-up-to-get-beat-down-esque, and yet wobbles in a way that betrays more than just pure braggadocio. And the guest rappers ALL bring fire. Kool G Rap, who has been more or less a linear rapper his entire career, proves he's learned quickly when he spits "Souls of Red October with red hot toasters/ Rockin mittens up in the kitchen with bread pie holders." I am not making this up. Prodigy, who perfected Dada Thug's precursor, Straight-Up Thug (I am neither questioning his trends, nor what he brought to the table) also brings the heat, as well as frequent Gangrene collaborator Roc Marciano.

At the end of the day, there's not a way these two could have executed the concept for Vodka & Ayahuasca better. That's not to say there aren't better albums, because there certainly are. But this is the most successful anybody's been with this particular style. 2012 is looking up.

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T Reynolds
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17. "shits cool for the train ride. plus I was always interested in ayahuasca"
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and psych rock samples are fitting my mood right now

out of the two cats from West LA Ev and Alc who woulda thought Al would spit so much tougher from the gut

Ev sounds so light in the pants and boring

Good album I like a good 7 of the shits

  

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20. "Love this shit....nm"
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Gangrene - Vodka and Ayahuasca
East Flatbush Project-First Born Overdue
Raekwon - Unexpected Victory

  

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21. "Good to see Roc Marc is writing Alchemist's rhymes..."
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...his verse on Due Work sound like it was lifted straight from Marcberg. This is a good thing.

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22. "RE: Gangere- vodka and ayahuaska"
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...I'm slippin, gotta check this project, the first one had some BANGERS....

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  

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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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23. "sucks that Dream Nap is only available on iTunes"
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Sat Sep-29-12 03:47 PM by Nick Has a Problem..

  

          

one of my favorite joints on the album. why give the extra shit to itunes?! i found the track anyway so fuck it. just venting.

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24. "Top Instructors is the hardest beat of 2012"
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I'll admit that I kinda liked Gutter Water's beats a little better, but this album flows nicely front to back. Gangrene is the shit.

  

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25. "**rolls up in the post with a guitar and dark shades**"
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I don't give a fuck!

Lies run sprints.
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