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howardlloyd
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"people dont master for vinyl anymore..."


  

          

listening to exiles "zip disks and floppies" on vinyl.

and after having listened on spotify up until now i can tell cats just used the digital master and transferred over to vinyl. as opposed to truly having the master house make the master with vinyl in mind

plus my copy (maybe all) has pops throughout. can anyone confirm?

i'm a little disappointed. its one of my favorite releases but damn… i'd rather just listen to the digital

oh well… happy to support a dope album nonetheless

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I talked about this with certain local musicians
Jan 25th 2014
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RE: I talked about this with certain local musicians
Jan 25th 2014
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      oh shit that's hilarious
Jan 26th 2014
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That's not true....not true at all.
Jan 25th 2014
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i cut many dub plates
Jan 25th 2014
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      Damn it's 2014 and Okayplayer don't have a like button for me to click
Jan 25th 2014
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Unless it's a lathe cut I think it's impossible not to
Jan 25th 2014
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RE: Unless it's a lathe cut I think it's impossible not to
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For the most part, you are correct
Jan 26th 2014
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dope avy btw
Jan 26th 2014
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even random access memories sucked on vinyl
Jan 26th 2014
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Nodima
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1. "I talked about this with certain local musicians"
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Sat Jan-25-14 04:43 PM by Nodima

  

          

because a lot of the label's early output was vinyl, and then they became affiliated and then truly independent again, and a lot of the releases were LPs with a CD in the sleeve, at least during the initial push to regain identity. and I noticed that a lot of their releases had a pair of masters, for the LP and the CD.


unfortunately, I think "mastered for iTunes" is the new sub-standard.


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howardlloyd
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2. "RE: I talked about this with certain local musicians"
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well … i can't even lie…

my needle had mad dust caught under and that was causing the problem… i was playing a lot of dusty old records.

i just got the exile in the mail and was like wtf…

it plays fine now

but yeah…it is mastered for iTunes i bet lol

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philpot
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10. "oh shit that's hilarious"
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i hate that dust bunny under the needle shit tho

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45RPM
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3. "That's not true....not true at all. "
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This guy is a legend in my hood, he just got a lot of scary looking gun toting Jamaicans hanging out there. If you don't mind all the rasclot, bumbaclot, bloodclot cuss words that let loose every 3 seconds then you'll love it, because they smoke bomb ass weed up in there. http://www.don1sounds.net/

This guy did a good job for my college roomate's album http://www.panicstudios.com/

And my band is working with this guy http://saltmastering.com/vinyl.htm

  

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howardlloyd
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5. "i cut many dub plates"
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at don 1



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45RPM
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7. "Damn it's 2014 and Okayplayer don't have a like button for me to click"
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*Dap

  

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4. "Unless it's a lathe cut I think it's impossible not to"
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But usually the music itself isn't being 'mastered for vinyl' but the vinyl houses are making vinyl masters based on what the customer supplies which is usually a digital master, when it would be more appropriate to master for vinyl from the final mix.

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howardlloyd
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6. "RE: Unless it's a lathe cut I think it's impossible not to"
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thats what i meant..

EQ…leveling all with vinyl in mind

i did releases where it was two different masters. its crucial because vinyl is really finicky

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8. "For the most part, you are correct"
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Sun Jan-26-14 04:38 AM by johnbook

  

          

Even though vinyl seems to be outselling other hard copy formats, there seems to be less of an emphasis on sound quality, care, and the mastering process. If it's loud, if it booms, if it sounds good in the car, then they'll press up whatever they want. The bad thing about it is that a lot of labels (both majors and indies) are releasing them on 180g or 200g audiophile vinyl, and with the prices for them, buyers are getting royally screwed. Just because something is pressed on thicker vinyl doesn't mean the quality has or will improve. We've gone back to the mid to late 80's when people were wondering why old music from the 50's and 60's didn't sound like 1982 Hall & Oates or Wang Chung. That's not how it works.


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GumDrops
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9. "even random access memories sucked on vinyl"
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and youd think THAT album would at least be mastered properly for the format

pretty much most modern music on major labels sounds sucky on vinyl

  

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