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normal35762
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"Poll question: You think Jay Electronica was signed to be shut up?"
Wed Feb-13-13 07:12 PM by normal35762

  

          

I have a friend who thinks that Jay was signed/paid to be shut up. Meaning Jay-Z signed him to silence the competition. I don't know about that one but what do you think?

Poll result (21 votes)
Yes. (3 votes)Vote
No. (17 votes)Vote
Other. (1 votes)Vote

  

  

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lmao @ jay electronica needing to be "shut up"
Feb 13th 2013
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Jay Z and Jay E are in totally different lanes so its a null argument
Feb 13th 2013
2
Seems like the opposite.
Feb 13th 2013
3
signed to be shut up? your friend needs a shut up sign
Feb 13th 2013
4
The rumors about him holding Joe Budden back make mroe sense
Feb 13th 2013
5
Sigh... Jay-Z wants to reach a billion dollars. That's it.
Feb 13th 2013
6
Post Jack: Signing to shelve was an industry standard
Feb 13th 2013
7
yep...that's what happened to Dennis Edwards by Motown.
Feb 25th 2013
8
That's what happened to Frank Ocean a few years ago
Feb 25th 2013
9
but wasn't he still initially signed to Def Jam ...
Feb 27th 2013
10
      Right, but they signed him with no intention of releasing his album
Feb 28th 2013
21
way to waste a persons short time on earth.
Feb 27th 2013
11
In a way i thought Joe Budden was a victim of this?
Feb 28th 2013
15
Hov and Elec are not, in any way, in competition.
Feb 27th 2013
12
I knew that Camel signed him to silence him.
Feb 27th 2013
13
RE: I knew that Camel signed him to silence him.
Feb 28th 2013
16
i can't say i agree w/this.
Feb 28th 2013
17
RE: but what would be his purpose for doing that?
Feb 28th 2013
22
he's released about 2o songs in the last ten years
Feb 28th 2013
14
Oh yeah definitly
Feb 28th 2013
18
HOV invited Elec to perform at Made In America
Feb 28th 2013
19
Being that JE's Roc album has been done for a while it's a possibility.
Feb 28th 2013
20
He gave him an advance and dude still doesn't make music
Feb 28th 2013
23
idk cuz hes not all that
Feb 28th 2013
24
where's the 'lol' poll option?
Feb 28th 2013
25

Oak27
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1. "lmao @ jay electronica needing to be "shut up""
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Wed Feb-13-13 07:31 PM by Oak27

  

          

pre-signing he was releasing 2 songs per year. how much more shut up could he get?

  

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2. "Jay Z and Jay E are in totally different lanes so its a null argument "
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3. "Seems like the opposite."
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It'd probably hurt Diddy to breathe now, if he took time to sign this dude and still have no output. I'd assume anyone that wanted to sign him around that time was expecting dude to go full steam after the "Exhibit" songs hype.

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4. " signed to be shut up? your friend needs a shut up sign"
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5. "The rumors about him holding Joe Budden back make mroe sense"
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6. "Sigh... Jay-Z wants to reach a billion dollars. That's it. "
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He doesn't give a fuck about Jay Electronica being "competition."
Jay Electronica is just a lazy ass dude lol. Its simple as that

  

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7. "Post Jack: Signing to shelve was an industry standard"
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A lot of times labels or their subsidaries would sign artists to keep them from getting picked up by another label so as to protect their interests with artists they were putting out. A lot of times it'd start out with going through the motions of having them do some studio dates, or even having them songwrite for other artists. Then it would be about 'timing', we'll put you out when the time is right. Of course they never planned on the time being right. A good contract could keep an artist from releasing any material for 2-3 years.
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8. "yep...that's what happened to Dennis Edwards by Motown."
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9. "That's what happened to Frank Ocean a few years ago"
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Mon Feb-25-13 05:22 PM by Eric B Is Prez

  

          

Which is why he released Nostalgia/Ultra on his own

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10. "but wasn't he still initially signed to Def Jam ..."
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... which dropped the Channel Orange jawn?

  

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21. "Right, but they signed him with no intention of releasing his album"
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He recorded Nostalgia/Ultra and the label shelved it indefinitely. So he released it on his own out of frustration, and it got so much buzz that Def Jam realized he was a legit commodity and they actually gave him more money before recording and releasing Channel Orange.

It's all explained in this article (scroll about halfway down): http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/10/magazine/frank-ocean-can-fly.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

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11. "way to waste a persons short time on earth."
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thats upsetting.

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15. "In a way i thought Joe Budden was a victim of this? "
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TI was a victim of this as well

  

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12. "Hov and Elec are not, in any way, in competition."
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13. "I knew that Camel signed him to silence him. "
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Diddy would have enabled Elec to takeover because he recognized the pure talent & earning potential. Camel wasnt trying to have that so he gave the nigga a silencer deal. Gameover.

Camel is no competition for Jay Elec by the way. He's much more powerful than Jay Elec in the entertainment world but he cant fuck with Electronica in the booth. No way. Im not here for argument though so i'll leave it at that.

  

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16. "RE: I knew that Camel signed him to silence him. "
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If I were making a bad argument I wouldn't be here for argument either.

  

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17. "i can't say i agree w/this."
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>he cant fuck with Electronica in the booth. No way. Im not here
>for argument though so i'll leave it at that.


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22. "RE: but what would be his purpose for doing that?"
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JZ barely raps anymore so its not like hes worried about any competition against himself saleswise, and even if he were i dont think JE would be any threat...other than that what does he gain by shelving JE indefinitely?

>Diddy would have enabled Elec to takeover because he
>recognized the pure talent & earning potential. Camel wasnt
>trying to have that so he gave the nigga a silencer deal.
>Gameover.
>
>Camel is no competition for Jay Elec by the way. He's much
>more powerful than Jay Elec in the entertainment world but he
>cant fuck with Electronica in the booth. No way. Im not here
>for argument though so i'll leave it at that.
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14. "he's released about 2o songs in the last ten years"
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he doesn't need help keeping his mouth shut

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18. "Oh yeah definitly"
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Jayz knew that electrotanica was teh only one who could thwurt his illiminadi plan's

  

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19. "HOV invited Elec to perform at Made In America"
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After his 30 minutes, Elec blabbed on and on about the new album. Threw up the ROC. And then... nothing. As always.

  

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20. "Being that JE's Roc album has been done for a while it's a possibility."
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23. "He gave him an advance and dude still doesn't make music"
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24. "idk cuz hes not all that"
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25. "where's the 'lol' poll option?"
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