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"if u were a fan of the fugees or wyclef's carnival, i prolly think u're ..."


  

          

and don't respect your taste in hip hp

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what if you like them, but not as hip-hop?
Oct 18th 2012
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that would be weird
Oct 18th 2012
2
      LOL
Oct 18th 2012
5
           Whole concept seems super sketchy imo.
Oct 18th 2012
7
           It's neither sketchy nor pointless.
Oct 18th 2012
8
                yep
Oct 18th 2012
10
                Word!
Oct 20th 2012
43
                     yeah, that shit is the worst of smart dumbness.
Oct 22nd 2012
48
           RE: LOL
Oct 18th 2012
11
Yeah cuz let's face it, Fugees the Score sucked.
Oct 18th 2012
3
fugee la, lauryn's verse only, and the diamond d beat is dope
Oct 18th 2012
4
Dunno if you're being facetious, but I agree with your statement
Oct 18th 2012
6
I second this. The album has not aged well and the rapping
Oct 20th 2012
42
RE: Yeah cuz let's face it, Fugees the Score sucked.
Oct 22nd 2012
47
RE: if u were a fan of the fugees or wyclef's carnival, i prolly think u...
Oct 18th 2012
9
i will be in this muhfucka taking notes
Oct 18th 2012
12
if THAT'S your litmus test for good hip-hop taste
Oct 18th 2012
13
you know?
Oct 18th 2012
14
definitely a strange place to draw the line.
Oct 18th 2012
16
^^liked that song with the rock; liked that stayin' alive single
Oct 18th 2012
20
      the song with the rock wasnt on that album.
Oct 18th 2012
21
           i wouldn't know. i own neither
Oct 18th 2012
23
                sak passe, i meant
Oct 20th 2012
37
it's that deep, huh?
Oct 18th 2012
15
AYO SON!!! THIS DAMN NEAR VINTAGE BUILDING BLOCK HERE!!
Oct 18th 2012
17
^^^^^ Broke it down to very last molecule ^^^^^
Oct 19th 2012
29
normally i don't say anything in bait posts
Oct 18th 2012
18
It was one of the best releases in '97
Oct 18th 2012
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RE: if u were a fan of the fugees or wyclef's carnival, i prolly think u...
Oct 18th 2012
22
idk what the rest of the title says
Oct 18th 2012
24
I dig those albums. But I also love Parents Just Don't Understand
Oct 19th 2012
25
yeah. no offense, but you post pretty corny in GD, so....not surprised
Oct 19th 2012
26
      AYO SON!! ONE OF YALL CHANGE AVY'S!! GDAMN!!
Oct 19th 2012
27
      you just mad about the avy standoff dawg.
Oct 20th 2012
44
           the fact that u even tried to make it about an avy makes u corny
Oct 20th 2012
45
you buggin The Carnival was/is dope
Oct 19th 2012
28
there was a Carnival 2?
Oct 19th 2012
31
      The Carnival 2: Ducati Bugaloo http://t.co/Jdsj8TOX
Oct 19th 2012
33
How soon they forget QUALITY HIP HOP
Oct 19th 2012
30
What about Poly Sci?
Oct 19th 2012
32
that album was dope.
Oct 19th 2012
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      i never heard it. i assumed he was corny by association
Oct 19th 2012
35
           so?
Oct 20th 2012
38
           sak passe? lol
Oct 20th 2012
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                lol
Oct 20th 2012
40
           RE: i never heard it. i assumed he was corny by association
Oct 20th 2012
41
Agree, it's like listening to Tracey Lee or
Oct 19th 2012
36
You fucking up here
Oct 22nd 2012
46
making this post in 2012 is weird..lol
Oct 22nd 2012
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1. "what if you like them, but not as hip-hop?"
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2. "that would be weird"
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since the majority of both albums is hip hop.
i retired cousin pam btw you kinda made me feel guilty when you pointed it out lol
this is my new sn

THAT'S ENOUGH

  

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5. "LOL"
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>since the majority of both albums is hip hop.
>i retired cousin pam btw you kinda made me feel guilty when
>you pointed it out lol
>this is my new sn

okay then... seems you really in the mood for change.

But anyway, I think it's still possible to listen to those albums as pop albums despite most of the songs ostensibly being "hip-hop." If it don't stimulate the "hip-hop" part of your brain, it can very well trigger some other part...

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7. "Whole concept seems super sketchy imo."
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Thu Oct-18-12 02:55 PM by Stringer Bell

          

What would be wrong instead with the notion that "music is music", and it's either good or bad? Radiohead sucks as country music might be true, but it's also a pointless discussion to have.

*Edit to add* Is the reason that the concept of the Fugees "sucking as hiphop but possibly being good as some other genre" is more relevant than Radiohead sucking at country but being good at moody rock, because Radiohead has no pretensions about being country while the Fugees were marketed and self-identified as hiphop? I don't care about this, as I'm not looking to make a moral judgment here, only a musical one.

  

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8. "It's neither sketchy nor pointless."
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When I listen to hip-hop, I don't listen for the same things I do when I listen to classical music.

I don't have the same expectations from a pop record that I do from a jazz record.

If you can't understand that... well, more power to you. But unless you listen to only one kind of music (or different "genres" that are relatively closely related to each other), then you probably listen to music the same way too... whether or not you choose to admit it or even acknowledge it to yourself.

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10. "yep"
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i say the same thing about kanye...

i dont like it as hip hop...

but i like him if i think of it as pop

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43. "Word!"
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I don't understand why this is so hard to get. If people refuse to acknowledge that genres exist then you might say that "Fugees generally (Lauryn was good I think) fails in terms of rhythmically talking over beats with interesting flows and/or lyrics and their beats were not as exciting as those backing other acts with a similar appeoach. However, the Fugees songs were generally very catchy and memorable and lightened up the charts with their presence!".

BTW, people who say they don't follow genres but rather only listen to music that is "interesting" can suck it, seriously...

  

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48. "yeah, that shit is the worst of smart dumbness."
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>BTW, people who say they don't follow genres but rather only
>listen to music that is "interesting" can suck it,
>seriously...

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11. "RE: LOL"
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>>since the majority of both albums is hip hop.
>>i retired cousin pam btw you kinda made me feel guilty when
>>you pointed it out lol
>>this is my new sn
>
>okay then... seems you really in the mood for change.

lol well i kinda fked up and told one of my co-workers what my old screen name was and i really don't need these niggas spying on me. i gotta be able to rant and talk about my job and fitewolks in peace.


>But anyway, I think it's still possible to listen to those
>albums as pop albums despite most of the songs ostensibly
>being "hip-hop." If it don't stimulate the "hip-hop" part of
>your brain, it can very well trigger some other part...

but it triggers the hip hop part of MY brain save for a track or two on either album.
i mean i can buy the carnival being thought of as 'world music' but not so much 'pop'

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3. "Yeah cuz let's face it, Fugees the Score sucked."
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Fugee la, killing me softly and ready or not are garbage, etc.

  

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4. "fugee la, lauryn's verse only, and the diamond d beat is dope"
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the rest? ass
the score was corny
carnival was corny
that's when real hip hop died
when they let wyclef win
with that pop garbage shit masquerading as
real rap

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6. "Dunno if you're being facetious, but I agree with your statement"
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and I have said this for years

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42. "I second this. The album has not aged well and the rapping"
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on it is atrocious

  

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47. "RE: Yeah cuz let's face it, Fugees the Score sucked."
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finally bought this album at a thrift shop for $2 two summers ago, and i was so disappointed after listening to it.

5 savable joints, 3 of which i've already heard countless times.

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9. "RE: if u were a fan of the fugees or wyclef's carnival, i prolly think u..."
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>and don't respect your taste in hip hp



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12. "i will be in this muhfucka taking notes"
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all who don't like the score or the carnival
will be on 'the list'
you all have been warned.

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13. "if THAT'S your litmus test for good hip-hop taste"
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then your taste is extremely suspect as well bruh

  

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14. "you know?"
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fuck you.

  

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16. "definitely a strange place to draw the line."
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but i'm glad this post was made
i need to know my enemies.

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lol

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20. "^^liked that song with the rock; liked that stayin' alive single"
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21. "the song with the rock wasnt on that album."
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and the stayin alive joint was one out of several tracks
was an obvious single and got the job done (read: it was a hit)

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23. "i wouldn't know. i own neither"
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which is the point
lol
i mean, i know you se pac se and all but that shit was detrimental to
hip hop
hatians fucked up, b

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37. "sak passe, i meant"
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15. "it's that deep, huh?"
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fuck you.

  

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17. "AYO SON!!! THIS DAMN NEAR VINTAGE BUILDING BLOCK HERE!!"
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NOT ONE BUT TWO ACCEPTED CLASSICS SHITTED ON!!
OVER THE TOP JUDGEMENT BASED ON PERSONAL OPINION ONLY 1% WOULD SHARE!!
SAID OPINION ACTUALLY BEING DEFENDABLE IF ONLY 1% WOULD SHARE IT BUT NOT BOTHERING TO EXPLAIN IT OUT OF A GENERAL CONTEMPT FOR THE TARGETS!!
MOFO'S QUESTIONING THEMSELVES BASED OFF OF TWO SENTENCES!!!

DAMN SON!! DAMN!!!

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29. "^^^^^ Broke it down to very last molecule ^^^^^"
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>NOT ONE BUT TWO ACCEPTED CLASSICS SHITTED ON!!
>OVER THE TOP JUDGEMENT BASED ON PERSONAL OPINION ONLY 1% WOULD
>SHARE!!

  

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18. "normally i don't say anything in bait posts"
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19. "It was one of the best releases in '97"
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and it has aged quite well...

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22. "RE: if u were a fan of the fugees or wyclef's carnival, i prolly think u..."
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I agree. The score has a few joints but I haven't played that album in over 10 years. I think I convinced myself carnival had joints too but I can barely remember that album now.

  

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24. "idk what the rest of the title says"
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but i'd be inclined to agree. always thought they were corny

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25. "I dig those albums. But I also love Parents Just Don't Understand"
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Hip-hop is better when its a big tent and has suffered drastically from the narrowing of the definition of what is hip-hop.


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26. "yeah. no offense, but you post pretty corny in GD, so....not surprised"
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27. "AYO SON!! ONE OF YALL CHANGE AVY'S!! GDAMN!!"
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44. "you just mad about the avy standoff dawg."
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Tell me what posting "cool" on internet boards looks like? LOLOLOLOLOL.


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45. "the fact that u even tried to make it about an avy makes u corny"
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i don't be payin' attention to small shit like that

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28. "you buggin The Carnival was/is dope"
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The Carnival 2? not so much.

  

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31. "there was a Carnival 2?"
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>The Carnival 2? not so much.

  

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33. "The Carnival 2: Ducati Bugaloo http://t.co/Jdsj8TOX"
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http://t.co/Jdsj8TOX

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30. "How soon they forget QUALITY HIP HOP"
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"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

  

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Ish
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32. "What about Poly Sci?"
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motherburd
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34. "that album was dope."
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THAT'S ENOUGH

  

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Bblock
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35. "i never heard it. i assumed he was corny by association "
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and it would be corny too
*shrugs*

life always offers you a 2nd chance...it's called tomorrow. use it wisely

  

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motherburd
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38. "so?"
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THAT'S ENOUGH

  

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Bblock
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39. "sak passe? lol"
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life always offers you a 2nd chance...it's called tomorrow. use it wisely

  

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motherburd
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40. "lol"
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THAT'S ENOUGH

  

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Bombastic
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41. "RE: i never heard it. i assumed he was corny by association "
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John Forte had that liquid-cocaine flow tho

  

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andacagar
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36. "Agree, it's like listening to Tracey Lee or"
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post Biggie Badboy. just saying.

  

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46. "You fucking up here"
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G-Dep put out a hell of a record. If you didn't listen to that album you fucked up.

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49. "making this post in 2012 is weird..lol"
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